Re: IvyDE sources

On Jan 7, 2008 1:59 PM, Xavier Hanin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jan 7, 2008 12:59 PM, Nicolas Lalevée <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > The IvyDE sources are not very patch friendly because of the space vs > > tabs indentation and the missing svn:eol-style property. The following

Re: [DISCUSS] EasyAnt: Ant based pre packaged build system for java projects

"Dominique Devienne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Jan 11, 2008 8:11 AM, Stefan Bodewig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> "Gilles Scokart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> > I never thought to overwrite macro to customize a generic build script. >> > Can >> > macro be overwritten? >> >> Sure, it

Re: IvyDE sources

Le lundi 14 janvier 2008, Xavier Hanin a écrit : > On Jan 7, 2008 1:59 PM, Xavier Hanin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Jan 7, 2008 12:59 PM, Nicolas Lalevée > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > The IvyDE sources are not very patch friendly because of the space vs > > > ta

Re: [DISCUSS] EasyAnt: Ant based pre packaged build system for java projects

On 1/14/08, Stefan Bodewig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Dominique Devienne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Having something like before/after/around advices (where around is the > same as an override that doesn't change the dependencies list) may > suffice and leave overwriting the whole target def

Re: [DISCUSS] EasyAnt: Ant based pre packaged build system for java projects

Why not have something simple like having a "before" and "after" attributes to the element. ... Peter On Jan 14, 2008 4:35 PM, Wolfgang Häfelinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > So every concrete simple target like became > > > > > > ... > > >

Re: [DISCUSS] EasyAnt: Ant based pre packaged build system for java projects

On Jan 14, 2008 5:35 PM, Wolfgang Häfelinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > So every concrete simple target like became > > > > > > ... > > > > > > This looks pretty ugly this me! If I understand correctly, that's exactly what Dominique complained about :-) > > > I believe that this whole

Re: [DISCUSS] EasyAnt: Ant based pre packaged build system for java projects

> So every concrete simple target like became > > > ... > > This looks pretty ugly this me! I believe that this whole discussion focusses too much on targets instead of macros. Macros are a very powerfull feature and they deserve much more attention! Why not simply:

Re: [DISCUSS] EasyAnt: Ant based pre packaged build system for java projects

On 1/14/08, Peter Reilly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Why not have something simple like having a "before" and "after" attributes to > the element. This is indeed something we discussed and proposed earlier in the thread. (except I envisioned the before/after to be used instead of the name attrib

Re: [DISCUSS] EasyAnt: Ant based pre packaged build system for java projects

Assume also: Do you want this before your "start-server" or after it or in parallel? And you you need to extend Ant with "before" and "after" of course. Regards, Wolfgang Häfelinger Research & Architecture | Dir. 2.7.0.2 European Patent Office Patentlaan 3-9 | 2288 EE Rijswijk

Re: [DISCUSS] EasyAnt: Ant based pre packaged build system for java projects

On Jan 14, 2008 5:02 PM, Wolfgang Häfelinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Assume also: > > > > > > Do you want this before your "start-server" or after it or > in parallel? > I would say that if the build file does not specify the order, then the order is undefined. If the order is

Re: [DISCUSS] EasyAnt: Ant based pre packaged build system for java projects

On Jan 14, 2008 5:24 PM, Peter Reilly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jan 14, 2008 5:02 PM, Wolfgang Häfelinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Assume also: > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you want this before your "start-server" or after it or > > in parallel? > > > > I would say that if

Re: [DISCUSS] EasyAnt: Ant based pre packaged build system for java projects

On 1/14/08, Peter Reilly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jan 14, 2008 5:02 PM, Wolfgang Häfelinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Assume also: > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you want this before your "start-server" or after it or > > in parallel? > > > > I would say that if the build fil

Re: [DISCUSS] EasyAnt: Ant based pre packaged build system for java projects

> Q1: Does everyone agree that adding before/after to target to Ant 1.8 > is useful and should be done before (in conjunction of) creating > generic build files? Ok, I'm not a committer - anyhow: I disagree cause you can do the very same thing just with Macros. No need for new target attributes.

Re: [DISCUSS] EasyAnt: Ant based pre packaged build system for java projects

On Jan 14, 2008 5:39 PM, Dominique Devienne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 1/14/08, Peter Reilly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Jan 14, 2008 5:02 PM, Wolfgang Häfelinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Assume also: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you want this before your

Re: [DISCUSS] EasyAnt: Ant based pre packaged build system for java projects

> Q1: Does everyone agree that adding before/after to target to Ant 1.8 > is useful and should be done before (in conjunction of) creating > generic build files? Dominique and Peter, could you please explain why you see a need for target attributes "before" and "after" rather than following the

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Re: [DISCUSS] EasyAnt: Ant based pre packaged build system for java projects

On 1/14/08, Wolfgang Häfelinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Q1: Does everyone agree that adding before/after to target to Ant 1.8 > > is useful and should be done before (in conjunction of) creating > > generic build files? > > could you please explain why you see a need for target attributes "b

Re: ProjectHelper : parsing from InputStream

Hi all, Matt Benson a écrit : One concept that I had discussed with someone here (Kev? Alexey?) was some kind of resource that would deliver a tempfile for another resource. This might work in simple situations. I didn't expect that my question would re-open this discussion. I think that it

Fwd: Re: [DISCUSS] EasyAnt: Ant based pre packaged build system for java projects

Hello, I have build a large automatic and generic build system using ANT. This build system got very complex, especially due to dependencies. I definitly do like the before/after approach, but the already suggested depends usage will add another step of complexity. Furthermore, up until now, I t

Re: [DISCUSS] EasyAnt: Ant based pre packaged build system for java projects

On Jan 14, 2008 6:39 PM, Dominique Devienne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 1/14/08, Peter Reilly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Jan 14, 2008 5:02 PM, Wolfgang Häfelinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > Assume also: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you want this before y

Re: [DISCUSS] EasyAnt: Ant based pre packaged build system for java projects

> > > > Assume also: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you want this before your "start-server" or after it or > > > > in parallel? > > > > > > > > > > I would say that if the build file does not specify the order, > > > then the order is undefined. maybe document o

Re: [DISCUSS] EasyAnt: Ant based pre packaged build system for java projects

"Dominique Devienne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 1/14/08, Stefan Bodewig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> "Dominique Devienne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Having something like before/after/around advices (where around is the >> same as an override that doesn't change the dependencies list) m

Re: [DISCUSS] EasyAnt: Ant based pre packaged build system for java projects

Wolfgang Häfelinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Why not simply: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If a user then really need to override "foo", he or she would simply > write in build.xml something like > > > > > before original foo .. > >

Re: [DISCUSS] EasyAnt: Ant based pre packaged build system for java projects

"Markus M. May" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I definitly do like the before/after approach, but the already > suggested depends usage will add another step of complexity. Not sure which part of the depends uage you mean. When overriding a target we generally have two different use cases a) I w

Re: [DISCUSS] EasyAnt: Ant based pre packaged build system for java projects

"Peter Reilly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I would say that if the build file does not specify the order, then the order > is undefined. > > If the order is important, then the build file can enforce an order by > using "depends". > > > > One thing we are not taking into accou

Re: [DISCUSS] EasyAnt: Ant based pre packaged build system for java projects

On Jan 14, 2008 9:37 PM, Xavier Hanin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jan 14, 2008 6:39 PM, Dominique Devienne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Q1: Does everyone agree that adding before/after to target to Ant 1.8 > > is useful and should be done before (in conjunction of) creating > > generic build