Re: a comment about xml namespace

2004-01-07 Thread Stefan Bodewig
On Fri, 02 Jan 2004, Gus Heck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 1. There should be a name space URI that ant uses to identify it's > internal core components... antlib:org.apache.tools.ant > 2. The name space URI that a given antlib declares to identify it's > components and is associated with user s

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2004-01-07 Thread Stefan Bodewig
On Tue, 30 Dec 2003, Steve Loughran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > msbuild: declare everything (I think) Not quite. You can leave it to the tasks as well, but the MSBuild team currently thinks that declare everything was superior. Stefan --

Re: a comment about xml namespace

2004-01-03 Thread Gus Heck
you want it to use. > > > >>It's in this way that we can provide a 'dense' xml document >>packed with all the information for a build, at the same time >>leveraging external xml vocabularies instead of cooking their >>own variant every time the need po

Re: a comment about xml namespace

2004-01-02 Thread Gus Heck
ernal xml vocabularies instead of cooking their >>own variant every time the need pops up. At some point we >>shall see the boundaries between file-based documents >>blurring with the usage of storing such XML in XML DB >>repositories. XML namespaces will become the tru

Re: a comment about xml namespace

2004-01-02 Thread Gus Heck
is something to think about for Ant 2.0. I think an aproach like (2) could give the correct balance on your direction. Cheers, jim -Original Message- From: Peter Reilly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22 December 2003 13:53 To: Ant Developers List Subject: Re: a comment about xml namesp

Re: a comment about xml namespace

2004-01-02 Thread Gus Heck
ed by our current usage of files and directories. Perhaps this is something to think about for Ant 2.0. I think an aproach like (2) could give the correct balance on your direction. Cheers, jim -Original Message----- From: Peter Reilly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22 December 2003

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2003-12-31 Thread didge
> -Original Message- > From: Steve Loughran [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 3:48 PM > To: Ant Developers List > Subject: Re: XML Namespace avoids collision between xml vocabularies was > RE: a comment about xml namespace > > >

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2003-12-30 Thread Steve Loughran
Jim Fuller wrote: From: Steve Loughran [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29 December 2003 17:59 Subject: Re: XML Namespace avoids collision between xml vocabularies was RE: a comment about xml namespace If you are interested in this kind of thing, point your browser at http://1060.org and d/l a

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2003-12-30 Thread Jose Alberto Fernandez
> From: Jim Fuller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > I in particular do not like the business of a programming language > > (which is what ANT XML really is) where non-understood things are > > silently ignored. (-1) > > [Jim Fuller] completely agree with this statement, though I > think the id

RE: XML Namespace avoids collision between xml vocabularies was RE: a comment about xml namespace

2003-12-30 Thread Jim Fuller
> From: Steve Loughran [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 29 December 2003 17:59 > Subject: Re: XML Namespace avoids collision between xml vocabularies was > RE: a comment about xml namespace > If you are interested in this kind of thing, point your browser at > http://1060.org

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2003-12-30 Thread Jim Fuller
I am not proposing that Ant becomes more of a golden hammer then it already is... also I have not seen anyone wanting xslt to be a process routernor am I asking xslt to do this. XSLT does however allow you to have multiple namespaced xml...of course xslt is a language for transforming xml...so

Re: XML Namespace avoids collision between xml vocabularies was RE: a comment about xml namespace

2003-12-29 Thread Steve Loughran
Jose Alberto Fernandez wrote: Why should ANT become a multilingual routing processor for XML? I think it is a fantastic project but it is not the ANT project. I do not see anyone asking XSLT engines to do this kind of thing. The XSLT XML processing is for the XSLT, not for doing all for all XML di

RE: XML Namespace avoids collision between xml vocabularies was RE: a comment about xml namespace

2003-12-29 Thread Jose Alberto Fernandez
> From: Jim Fuller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > From: Jose Alberto Fernandez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: 23 December 2003 11:44 > > Subject: RE: a comment about xml namespace > > > about? Given (3) ANT cannot just ignore it, since it may be &

XML Namespace avoids collision between xml vocabularies was RE: a comment about xml namespace

2003-12-29 Thread Jim Fuller
> From: Jose Alberto Fernandez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 23 December 2003 11:44 > Subject: RE: a comment about xml namespace > Given the above, what do you mean by namespaces "ANT does not know" [Jim Fuller] Ant has no concept of what to do with 'other'

RE: a comment about xml namespace

2003-12-23 Thread Jose Alberto Fernandez
rhaps this is something to think about for Ant 2.0. > I think an aproach like (2) could give the correct balance on your direction. > Cheers, jim > > -Original Message- > From: Peter Reilly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 22 December 2003 13:53 > To: Ant Developer

Re: a comment about xml namespace

2003-12-23 Thread Steve Loughran
Jim Fuller wrote: I would simply propose that all namespaces that Ant has no information on how to handle are by default ignored, with possibly an ant property and associated command line switch to control how to handle processing of external namespaces, though I would settle initially for just ign

RE: a comment about xml namespace

2003-12-22 Thread Jim Fuller
>Ant1.7 lets you have any XML you like inside some task. So you could >have a task that required valid XML and took whatever was >inside. Or even an task that required valid RDF +1 to that, cheers, Jim Fuller - To unsubscri

RE: a comment about xml namespace

2003-12-22 Thread Jim Fuller
ter Reilly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22 December 2003 13:53 To: Ant Developers List Subject: Re: a comment about xml namespace This is what I (think I) originally proposed, but did not articulate it correctly. http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=ant-dev&m=105240500519029&w=2 Peter

Re: a comment about xml namespace

2003-12-22 Thread Steve Loughran
Jim Fuller wrote: Consider the following; http://www.w3c.org/RDF/"; xmlns:DC="http://purl.org/RDF/DC/";> RDF:HREF="http://purl.org/metadata/dublin_core_elements"; DC:Title="namespace build" DC:Creator="Jim Fuller" DC:Subject="xml namespaces" DC:Description="Contains Ant artifacts f

Re: a comment about xml namespace

2003-12-22 Thread Peter Reilly
This is what I (think I) originally proposed, but did not articulate it correctly. http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=ant-dev&m=105240500519029&w=2 Peter Jim Fuller wrote: Consider the following; http://www.w3c.org/RDF/"; xmlns:DC="http://purl.org/RDF/DC/";> RDF:HREF="http://purl.org/metadata/dub

a comment about xml namespace

2003-12-22 Thread Jim Fuller
Consider the following; http://www.w3c.org/RDF/"; xmlns:DC="http://purl.org/RDF/DC/";> http://purl.org/metadata/dublin_core_elements"; DC:Title="namespace build" DC:Creator="Jim Fuller" DC:Subject="xml namespaces"