RE: Re: Prototype work on XML+XSL based Ant doc

2005-03-29 Thread Matt Benson
--- Dominique Devienne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > From: Matt Benson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > The bugreport says you started w/ Introspection to > get > > here... I wonder if there is some way we can > combine > > this doc initiative with Kev Jackson's suggestions > on > > validation to set

RE: Re: Prototype work on XML+XSL based Ant doc

2005-03-29 Thread Dominique Devienne
> From: Matt Benson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > The bugreport says you started w/ Introspection to get > here... I wonder if there is some way we can combine > this doc initiative with Kev Jackson's suggestions on > validation to set up some kind of element/attribute > matrix evaluation to define c

RE: Re: Prototype work on XML+XSL based Ant doc

2005-03-29 Thread Matt Benson
--- Dominique Devienne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > From: Matt Benson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Beyond that, while I have DL'd these bug > > attachment(s), I haven't yet looked at them simply > > because my lack of expertise in this area means > that > > whenever I get into this I will have t

RE: Re: Prototype work on XML+XSL based Ant doc

2005-03-29 Thread Dominique Devienne
> From: Matt Benson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Beyond that, while I have DL'd these bug > attachment(s), I haven't yet looked at them simply > because my lack of expertise in this area means that > whenever I get into this I will have to refer to XSLT > references before I know what I'm looking at

RE: Re: Prototype work on XML+XSL based Ant doc

2005-03-29 Thread Matt Benson
--- Dominique Devienne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm a little torn right now between 'too verbose' > and 'enough metadata' > in the XML vocab. I'm surprised at the lack of > response from many > committers too. I don't think it bodes too well for > this work. --DD DD, FWIW, as I earlier said,

Re: Prototype work on XML+XSL based Ant doc

2005-03-28 Thread Jesse Glick
Dominique Devienne wrote: (1) Ability to have plain HTML output - JavaHelp does not render XHTML well, alas. ("" is I think OK as well as "", but the "" tag does not get handled.) The current XSL uses output="html", so no XHTML. OTOH, doesn't JavaHelp use the HTML viewer from the JDK, which is limi

RE: Re: Prototype work on XML+XSL based Ant doc

2005-03-28 Thread Dominique Devienne
> From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jesse Glick > > One minor request - that whatever the format is, it would be nice to be > able to construct JavaHelp output easily (probably with added or perhaps > modified stylesheets). That means > > (1) Ability to have plain HTML output - Ja

Re: Prototype work on XML+XSL based Ant doc

2005-03-28 Thread Jesse Glick
Stefan Bodewig wrote: One thing that doesn't render well in Firefox is the since attribute on the target and propertyset nested elements in ant.xml - I see the  s as text, i.e. Firefox seems to either escape the ampersand or doesn't recognize it as entity. I tried to change the output-method to

Re: Prototype work on XML+XSL based Ant doc

2005-03-28 Thread Jesse Glick
One minor request - that whatever the format is, it would be nice to be able to construct JavaHelp output easily (probably with added or perhaps modified stylesheets). That means (1) Ability to have plain HTML output - JavaHelp does not render XHTML well, alas. ("" is I think OK as well as "",

Re: Prototype work on XML+XSL based Ant doc

2005-03-25 Thread James Fuller
Dominique Devienne wrote: >>From: James Fuller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >>a few ruminations; >> >>- replace with or , easier on the >> >> >eye > >Sounds good. I also thought of for definition. Even shorter > > have used and >>- description / section text should be free to use >> >

Re: Prototype work on XML+XSL based Ant doc

2005-03-25 Thread James Fuller
>probably due to my ignorance of more advanced XML technologies. I think >your proposals would be a lot easier to understand if you actually took >ant.xml and modified it to show what you mean. Inside XHTML, Docbook, >Dublin Core, etc... markup in there, change the structure as you propose >in a c

RE: Prototype work on XML+XSL based Ant doc

2005-03-25 Thread Dominique Devienne
> From: James Fuller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > a few ruminations; > > - replace with or , easier on the eye Sounds good. I also thought of for definition. Even shorter while still explicit enough (?). And after Peter's comments on verbosity, I've also thought of skipping altogether, but

Re: Prototype work on XML+XSL based Ant doc

2005-03-25 Thread James Fuller
a few ruminations; - replace with or , easier on the eye - description / section text should be free to use XHTML: xmlns:x="" Docbook: xmlns:db="" Dublin Core xmlns:dc="" Current namespace elements should mimic docbook simple subset of elements, for future integration/mapping. - I would sug

Re: Prototype work on XML+XSL based Ant doc

2005-03-24 Thread Stefan Bodewig
On Tue, 22 Mar 2005, Dominique Devienne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have several questions I was hoping could be discussed. I'm glad you bring the discussion over here since I find it easier to respond to an email using my mail client than my browser. > 1) First, is there a place for such a p

RE: Prototype work on XML+XSL based Ant doc

2005-03-22 Thread Dominique Devienne
> From: Peter Reilly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > I do not want to be too negative but... Well, I did ask for input... It's sometimes painful to get negative feedback, but it's usually constructive. > >2) Second, is the XML syntax I used too verbose? > The xml looks very verbose. It is. I tried

Re: Prototype work on XML+XSL based Ant doc

2005-03-22 Thread Peter Reilly
I do not want to be too negative but... Dominique Devienne wrote: I've entered this enhancement. http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=34116 I have several questions I was hoping could be discussed. 1) First, is there a place for such a prototype somewhere? proposals/ in CVS? Wait for

Prototype work on XML+XSL based Ant doc

2005-03-22 Thread Dominique Devienne
I've entered this enhancement. http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=34116 I have several questions I was hoping could be discussed. 1) First, is there a place for such a prototype somewhere? proposals/ in CVS? Wait for SVN/ant/sandbox? So far I've just published a zip attached to th