Re: AW: 1.7 release timetable & features.

2005-02-28 Thread Steve Loughran
James Fuller wrote: no, I have already gone through the input masking funits more about locking down...or giving the opportunity to lock down; e.g. secure class loading, working with digital certs, etc... to run ant secure you'd need to generate a JAR of everything in the tasks and tasks.opt

Re: AW: 1.7 release timetable & features.

2005-02-25 Thread James Fuller
Steve Loughran wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - manual needs some pretty generous scrubbing and reorganisation (note: not a fan of any of task styles used...ex. WhichResource) and generally a fresher look and feel. WhichResource is one of the xdoclet generated docs. New velocity/XSLT can impro

Re: (was Re: 1.7 release timetable & features.)

2005-02-25 Thread Stefan Bodewig
On Fri, 25 Feb 2005, Peter Reilly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Stefan Bodewig wrote: > >>On Thu, 24 Feb 2005, Peter Reilly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >> >>> * to allow adding of jars to the current >>> classloader (would solve a *lot* of problems at the cost of >>> some issues) >>>

Re: (was Re: 1.7 release timetable & features.)

2005-02-25 Thread Peter Reilly
Stefan Bodewig wrote: On Thu, 24 Feb 2005, Peter Reilly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: * to allow adding of jars to the current classloader (would solve a *lot* of problems at the cost of some issues) http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=28228 I'm willing to not cast a -1

Re: 1.7 release timetable & features.

2005-02-24 Thread Stefan Bodewig
On Thu, 24 Feb 2005, Peter Reilly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >* to allow adding of jars to the current >classloader (would solve a *lot* of problems at the cost of >some issues) >http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=28228 I'm willing to not cast a -1 on it, if it is

Re: 1.7 release timetable & features.

2005-02-24 Thread Stefan Bodewig
On Thu, 24 Feb 2005, Steve Loughran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What do people think is a good release schedule/timetable? No argument, although I'd prefer a 1.6.3 release schedule first (and my main issue here would be cutting down open bug reports). > Should we be organised, build up a list o

Re: 1.7 release timetable & features.

2005-02-24 Thread Steve Loughran
Dominique Devienne wrote: Given that I don't know the task, it's difficult to gage whether the properties loaded from ${runtime.properties} are used as properties, i.e. the task also supports a or or nested element (e.g. , , , , etc...) turned into a set of properties for the JVM underneath, a

RE: 1.7 release timetable & features.

2005-02-24 Thread Dominique Devienne
> From: Steve Loughran [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Dominique Devienne wrote: > > I'd like propertyset to stay as a property selector of sort, and not go > > into the realm of actually loading or defining properties. A propertyset > > should stay has a collections of patterns to select existing prop

Re: 1.7 release timetable & features.

2005-02-24 Thread Steve Loughran
Dominique Devienne wrote: From: Steve Loughran [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - a way of embedding files into , so you can do file-based loading from inside anything that takes a property file. Or some easy way of going into Java tasks. I wrote my own element for this for the smartfrog tasks, and it wa

Re: AW: 1.7 release timetable & features.

2005-02-24 Thread Peter Reilly
Matt Benson wrote: --- Peter Reilly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: * local properties for macros (most likely Jose's solution with an auto removal of the local properties at the end of the macro) Do you think the ThreadLocals are just not going to behave themselves? Thread locals can

Re: AW: 1.7 release timetable & features.

2005-02-24 Thread Steve Loughran
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - manual needs some pretty generous scrubbing and reorganisation (note: not a fan of any of task styles used...ex. WhichResource) and generally a fresher look and feel. WhichResource is one of the xdoclet generated docs. New velocity/XSLT can improve that. - would like to

Re: 1.7 release timetable & features.

2005-02-24 Thread Steve Loughran
Stefan Bodewig wrote: On Thu, 24 Feb 2005, Steve Loughran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: you know, this summer will mark the two year point since Ant 1,6.0 shipped. Which means time for Ant1.7 is nearing. Hmm, Ant 1.6.0 has been released in December 2003. OK, I knew it was 2003. That's no so bad...18

Re: 1.7 release timetable & features.

2005-02-24 Thread Steve Loughran
Stefan Bodewig wrote: On Thu, 24 Feb 2005, Darin Swanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Eclipse 3.1 is coming out in June 2005 as Jan indicated. For me to have a chance to update and release Ant 1.7 within Eclipse it would be great to get an Ant release sometime in early May. Otherwise things start

Re: 1.7 release timetable & features.

2005-02-24 Thread Stefan Bodewig
On Thu, 24 Feb 2005, Darin Swanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Eclipse 3.1 is coming out in June 2005 as Jan indicated. For me to > have a chance to update and release Ant 1.7 within Eclipse it would > be great to get an Ant release sometime in early May. Otherwise > things start getting locked

Re: AW: 1.7 release timetable & features.

2005-02-24 Thread Matt Benson
--- Peter Reilly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >* local properties for macros (most likely Jose's > solution with >an auto removal of the local properties at > the end of the macro) Do you think the ThreadLocals are just not going to behave themselves? -Matt

Re: 1.7 release timetable & features.

2005-02-24 Thread Stefan Bodewig
On Thu, 24 Feb 2005, Steve Loughran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > you know, this summer will mark the two year point since Ant 1,6.0 > shipped. Which means time for Ant1.7 is nearing. Hmm, Ant 1.6.0 has been released in December 2003. Stefan --

Re: AW: 1.7 release timetable & features.

2005-02-24 Thread Peter Reilly
01 AM Please respond to "Ant Developers List" To [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc Subject AW: 1.7 release timetable & features. Eclipse should is "targeted for late June 2005" [1] and it would be good to release Ant 1.7 before,

Re: AW: 1.7 release timetable & features.

2005-02-24 Thread Darin Swanson
To [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc Subject AW: 1.7 release timetable & features. Eclipse should is "targeted for late June 2005" [1] and it would be good to release Ant 1.7 before, so that (maybe) Eclipse could ship 1.7. Would be also a good distribution :-) Also starting with

RE: 1.7 release timetable & features.

2005-02-24 Thread Dominique Devienne
> From: Steve Loughran [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - a way of embedding files into , so you can do file-based > loading from inside anything that takes a property file. Or some easy > way of going into Java > tasks. I wrote my own element for this for the smartfrog tasks, and it > was v. useful

Re: AW: 1.7 release timetable & features.

2005-02-24 Thread jfuller
note to myself re wish list for Ant 1.7 for the summer... +1 to minor release to 'bed down' some of the structurally big changes w/o cross referencing with current buglist/wish listsoff the top of my head; - manual needs some pretty generous scrubbing and reorganisation (note: not a fan of

Re: AW: 1.7 release timetable & features.

2005-02-24 Thread Steve Loughran
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mmh & smartfrog: if you are the author you should be able to change the license, IMO ;-) no, because I wrote it for my employer. I can redo it from scratch though, it wasnt hard. - To unsubscribe, e-mail:

Re: 1.7 release timetable & features.

2005-02-24 Thread Kev Jackson
you know, this summer will mark the two year point since Ant 1,6.0 shipped. Which means time for Ant1.7 is nearing. That long? Should we be organised, build up a list of features and then either start doing them or scrub them from the list? I think that without a list it would be too easy to ge

AW: 1.7 release timetable & features.

2005-02-24 Thread Jan . Materne
Eclipse should is "targeted for late June 2005" [1] and it would be good to release Ant 1.7 before, so that (maybe) Eclipse could ship 1.7. Would be also a good distribution :-) Also starting with a new minor version (1.6 -> 1.7) we should introduce the antlib subproject, because that is a major

AW: 1.7 release timetable & features.

2005-02-24 Thread Jan . Materne
> you know, this summer will mark the two year point since Ant 1,6.0 > shipped. Which means time for Ant1.7 is nearing. > > What do people think is a good release schedule/timetable? > > Or to put it differently, what do people want in *and stable* > before then? > > Things I must have: >

1.7 release timetable & features.

2005-02-24 Thread Steve Loughran
you know, this summer will mark the two year point since Ant 1,6.0 shipped. Which means time for Ant1.7 is nearing. What do people think is a good release schedule/timetable? Or to put it differently, what do people want in *and stable* before then? Things I must have: - with security & docs. -