Hi Again after 9 years

2013-11-13 Thread Gus Heck
Don't know if any1 remembers me but I contributed some tasks and fixes back in 2003-2004 (1.4 - 1.6 days) I'm thinking of writing a task to pack .crx files for chrome extensions. I have the following questions: 1. Is there interest for such a task to be contributed? It seems that there are

Re: and XML NS hell ;-)

2004-03-03 Thread Gus Heck
an alternate echo element and if it doesn't have either an antcontrib echo or an ant echo, it should fail. Basically what we have here is the condition that all antlibs inherit (but may overide) ant core tasks. I like that one better, what do you think? Gus Peter Gus Heck wrote: Gus Heck wr

Re: [Ant Wiki] Updated: FrontPage

2004-03-02 Thread Gus Heck
All the wiki mails are comming to me with the date 12/31/1969... is this intentional? It looks like a bug in the setups somewhere. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: 2004-03-01T10:19:22 Editor: 66.80.4.221 <> Wiki: Ant Wiki Page: FrontPage URL: http://wiki.apache.org/ant/FrontPage no comm

Re: BugID 27282 Misspelling: s/occured/occurred/g

2004-03-02 Thread Gus Heck
Perhaps we need to appoint a committee to research spellings and spelling variants. Then we could foot note all words with variants for clarity. Honestly we should pick a single reference and a single locale and standardize on that. That way when a bug like this comes in we check the reference

Re: and XML NS hell ;-)

2004-03-02 Thread Gus Heck
Gus Heck wrote: re given to the elements in the calling macro. In ant 1.6.0+, the namespace of elements discovered by reflection take the namespace uri of type/task that contains the element (Note this is the uri and not the localname). The enclosed patch will allow the namespace of nested

Re: and XML NS hell ;-)

2004-02-24 Thread Gus Heck
re given to the elements in the calling macro. In ant 1.6.0+, the namespace of elements discovered by reflection take the namespace uri of type/task that contains the element (Note this is the uri and not the localname). The enclosed patch will allow the namespace of nested elements to be either

Re: something for you [new virus?]

2004-02-19 Thread Gus Heck
More likely, someone who's "collected adresses" includes both peter's address and this list has the virus. Is it you? :) -Gus Alexey N. Solofnenko wrote: Have you installed a new virus? - Alexey. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you earn money -

Re: REGRESSION: Ant 1.6+ doesn't detect duplicate targets

2004-02-18 Thread Gus Heck
With a notion of target access levels we could flag a target as overridable, and leave the default as not overridable perhaps... kinda like java's final modifier only backwards. -Gus Dominique Devienne wrote: From: Peter Reilly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I think it is used as a feature with the

Re: Ant 1.7 (target access)

2004-02-18 Thread Gus Heck
In any case I am starting to think about ant 1.7 and further. Here are the points which spring to my mind : 1) local properties, 2) roles, 3) get the xdocs proposal out, 4) think about virtual file system abstractions, and do something about them, 5) fix some popular bugs from bugzilla How about

Re: [VOTE] Include the Apache 2.0 License in ant 1.6.1

2004-01-27 Thread Gus Heck
If it doesn't go in 1.6.1 won't we be forced to do a 1.6.2 or 1.6.1p1 or something to update the licenses by March 1? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: "If there is time enough for that modifications, ok. Otherwise we should wait for the next release (may it be 1.6.2)" But we should put the result of th

A path for Ant 2? (was Re: FYI: Blog "Complex build systems need a real language" found)

2004-01-22 Thread Gus Heck
This thread has somewhat stirred up my brain a bit and a thought that floated to the top goes like this: We do want to be able to write simple declaritive build scripts for builds. I think this is a major virture of Ant. But clearly when one ventures into the "system of builds" and such there a

Re: [VOTE] Bug Tracking System

2004-01-20 Thread Gus Heck
My non-non commiter vote: [ ] +1 Bugzilla sucks - go to Jira [x] -1 BugZilla rocks - if it ain't broke, don't fix it. Doesn't it figure. I read a similar commons thread, and wrote a long email about why I think bugzilla is friendlier to the novice user than both JIRA and Scarab then I come her

Re: a comment about xml namespace

2004-01-03 Thread Gus Heck
I have only followed this discussion peripherally at best, and I know it has been going on for a while, so I am almost certainly be missing information from previous posts, but here's what strikes me as potentially reasonable... and thus represents my initial expectations of what I will find when I

Re: a comment about xml namespace

2004-01-02 Thread Gus Heck
I have only followed this discussion peripherally at best, and I know it has been going on for a while, so I am almost certainly be missing information from previous posts, but here's what strikes me as potentially reasonable... and thus represents my initial expectations of what I will find when I

Re: a comment about xml namespace

2004-01-02 Thread Gus Heck
This seems to be an incomplete version of what I wrote and does not match what I find in my sent folder. I will try again and hope I don't spam you all too much. my mail client seems to be acting funny. Appologies. -Gus Gus Heck wrote: I have only followed this discussion peripherally at

Re: a comment about xml namespace

2004-01-02 Thread Gus Heck
I have only followed this discussion peripherally at best, and I know it has been going on for a while, so I am almost certainly be missing information from previous posts, but here's what strikes me as potentially reasonable... and thus represents my initial expectations of what I will find wh

Re: [VOTE] macrodef - do attributes as properties or substitutions

2003-11-19 Thread Gus Heck
My (non-committer) oppion coincides with Stefan here, with a slight preference for @{x} because it looks like "put the substitution AT this location" when I read it to myself. However I can understand that $ escaping is already done and well tested so reusing that code has value. $(x) is good

Re: Brent Rector on Msbuild vs Ant

2003-11-13 Thread Gus Heck
now, they dont have to care what I say, but we do have the option of pulling all .NET support from ant1.6...we will just have to see if that matters to them. It'll be an interesting test of conflict of the tactical 'get .net developers today' over the strategic 'own the developers forever'. I

Re: [ANTidote] possibly needs to be renamed!

2003-10-16 Thread Gus Heck
Hmm I have this suspicion that we are just an ancillary target, these people probably really want to sue the virus software people who likely have some money to sue for. The problem is that if they don't pursue everyone, they probably can't go after the big one and have the courts beleive them.

Re: [ANTidote] possibly needs to be renamed!

2003-10-16 Thread Gus Heck
I don't know much about trademark law, but doesn't it matter if their trademark precedes our usage? I'm pretty sure I can't declare "Red" to be my trademark and then tell certain linux distributors that they must cease associating their product with mine... can I? -Gus Christoph Wilhelms wrote:

Re: failonerror; general solution

2003-10-09 Thread Gus Heck
Reading this thread I am beginning to think that there is a fundamental problem on the road ahead for ant. If I understand correctly, one of the founding Ideas of Ant was that builds were something that should be described, not programed. Since I have joined this list about 1.5 years ago, I hav

Re: failonerror; general solution

2003-10-08 Thread Gus Heck
I'm not as eager to see the tasks in Ant proper as others, that's why I haven't taken any initiative here (in Apache speak, that's the difference between my +0 and the +1s that have been cast by others). Are we talking about all ant-contrib tasks or just try/catch? I thought just try/catch...

Re: failonerror; general solution

2003-10-06 Thread Gus Heck
Dominique Devienne wrote: -Original Message- From: Steve Loughran [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 11:23 AM To: Ant Developers List Subject: Re: failonerror; general solution Dale Anson wrote: What's the difference in use case between this and the try/catch from

Re: AW: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 23397] - Need attribute for target tag to indicate hidden/internal target

2003-09-25 Thread Gus Heck
only from commandline. It should work too, if invoked by other java applications. Jan -Original Message- From: Gus Heck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 5:58 PM To: Ant Developers List Subject: Re: AW: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 23397] - Need

Re: AW: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 23397] - Need attribute for target tag to indicate hidden/internal target

2003-09-25 Thread Gus Heck
not only from commandline. It should work too, if invoked by other java applications. Jan -----Original Message- From: Gus Heck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 5:58 PM To: Ant Developers List Subject: Re: AW: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 23397] - Need attribute for target t

Re: AW: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 23397] - Need attribute for target tag to indicate hidden/internal target

2003-09-25 Thread Gus Heck
In fact I would be even more interested to hear the opinons of both commiters and non-commiters :). -Gus Gus Heck wrote: Antoine Levy-Lambert wrote: What you would like would be useful to prevent the "wrong" targets from being called. But I wonder whether this change would no

Re: AW: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 23397] - Need attribute for target tag to indicate hidden/internal target

2003-09-25 Thread Gus Heck
Antoine Levy-Lambert wrote: What you would like would be useful to prevent the "wrong" targets from being called. But I wonder whether this change would not make ant unnecessary complex. The default (atribute omitted) state should behave as always. This is necessary for back compatability, and

Re: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 23397] - Need attribute for target tag to indicate hidden/internal target

2003-09-25 Thread Gus Heck
Since bug 22020 has been duped twice (once before, and once since) and there is a patch available (mine of course :), though I did not report 22020), what are the chances of geting it into 1.6 It was submitted months ago. -Gus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DO NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL, BUT PLEASE

Re: cvs commit: ant/src/script ant

2003-09-23 Thread Gus Heck
These changes arn't working for me. See http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=23358 -Gus Knut Wannheden wrote: These changes expand on Antoine's -lib code to support multiple -lib options. In addition, the -lib option can now name a directory containing jars and all jars

Re: Getting 1.6 out the door

2003-09-03 Thread Gus Heck
Costin Manolache wrote: Dominique Devienne wrote: As I've been saying all along, lets just introduce a new (unique) notion for attribute/variable expansion (at use time rather than definition time), which is something new in Ant anyhow. No (or less?) backward compatibility issues, and makes it p

Re: Getting 1.6 out the door

2003-09-02 Thread Gus Heck
Steve Loughran wrote: Gus Heck wrote: I don't think there's such a thing as experimental stuff. It's either in or not, and once in, it must be backward compatible. I'm sorry so few people chimed in on the subject of overloading the meaning of ${name} in Ant. If this could

Re: Getting 1.6 out the door

2003-09-02 Thread Gus Heck
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: peter reilly wrote, On 01/09/2003 20.10: On Monday 01 September 2003 16:43, Dominique Devienne wrote: ... It's not all about power, or one would use a real programming language like Perl or Python. , although powerful, complexifies the rules of Ant, namely the property e

Re: Getting 1.6 out the door

2003-08-28 Thread Gus Heck
I don't think there's such a thing as experimental stuff. It's either in or not, and once in, it must be backward compatible. I'm sorry so few people chimed in on the subject of overloading the meaning of ${name} in Ant. If this could be changed, then I'd have an enthusiastic +1, but as it stands,

Re: [new tasks] presetdef and macrodef

2003-08-25 Thread Gus Heck
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: [returned from holiday, happy to read the list again :-) ] Jose Alberto Fernandez wrote, On 22/08/2003 14.58: From: Gus Heck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ... If macro definitions are available to sub builds, then your 3rd case might occur, but I don't think it wou

Re: [new tasks] presetdef and macrodef

2003-08-25 Thread Gus Heck
Templates appear to be something new, though I don't think I like them (see below) (1) --> ${xyz} (2) --> ${macroattr:xyz} (3) --> ${macrotemplate:xyz} Well, as I said I use those terms above just as examples, I am not hookup in words, I was just looking for some identifier to desc

Re: [new tasks] presetdef and macrodef

2003-08-21 Thread Gus Heck
I'm not sure I buy your 3 things argument. In my mind there are 2 things in what is previously proposed... properties and parameters Templates appear to be something new, though I don't think I like them (see below) (1) --> ${xyz} (2) --> ${macroattr:xyz} (3) --> ${macrotemplate:xyz} So for

Re: [new tasks] presetdef and macrodef

2003-08-20 Thread Gus Heck
Jose Alberto Fernandez wrote: Dominique, As its name indicates is a MACRO. And macros are macros are macros and they are suppose to be textually replaces at the point on invocation. Of course the parameters need to be replaced. The point is they shouldn't look like properties. This way they ca

Re: [new tasks] presetdef and macrodef

2003-08-20 Thread Gus Heck
I stopped arguing this point, as I was the only one concerned apparently, but since Jose Alberto brings it up again... Having ${NAME} not evaluate to the value, if any, of the NAME property, at the time the task it's used in ( is this case) is executed, is REALLY REALLY BAD in my sincere opinion.

Re: Ant Task

2003-08-18 Thread Gus Heck
Hi, Andrei, 2 things about your post: 1. I think you need to give more details. It is not clear what your INIFile class does or why you want to use an ant task in place of a constructor call. 2. I think you need to ask this on the user list (see http://ant.apache.org/mail.html), not this list (

Re: PropertyHelper (was: Re: beating the dead Ant 1.6 horse)

2003-08-14 Thread Gus Heck
Yes. PropertyHelper is a property interceptor, and it simply rocks. In essence, you register a helper with Ant. Then, at each request for a property, each registered helper is asked for the property value in turn; the first one that has it, returns it. Completely not following this property helpe

Re: cvs commit: ant/src/main/org/apache/tools/ant/taskdefs/optional/net FTP.java

2003-08-12 Thread Gus Heck
Antoine Levy-Lambert wrote: - Original Message - From: "Gus Heck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 4:10 PM Antoine, Since you have recently been playing with symlinks/FTP what are your thoughts on bug 14320? http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_

Re: cvs commit: ant/src/main/org/apache/tools/ant/taskdefs/optional/net FTP.java

2003-08-12 Thread Gus Heck
Antoine, Since you have recently been playing with symlinks/FTP what are your thoughts on bug 14320? http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=14320 -Gus Stefan Bodewig wrote: On Wed, 6 Aug 2003, Antoine Levy-Lambert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 1) concerning the inclusion of "" in inclu

Re: cvs commit: ant/src/main/org/apache/tools/ant/taskdefs/optional/net FTP.java

2003-08-12 Thread Gus Heck
Antoine, Since you have recently been playing with symlinks/FTP what are your thoughts on bug 14320? http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=14320 -Gus Stefan Bodewig wrote: On Wed, 6 Aug 2003, Antoine Levy-Lambert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 1) concerning the inclusion of "" in inclu

Re: Any chance for fileset arithmetic?

2003-07-31 Thread Gus Heck
I've read this thread a bit, but maybe not completely. I'm not sure I understand, but I think you are talking about combining mappers and filesets such that filesets can perform mapping functions. It has been agreed that this would require modification of many tasks that use filesets so why

Re: CVS Commit with ANT

2003-07-16 Thread Gus Heck
I'm doing CVS commit from ant via the apply task currently. I needed to sudo out of root for this particular situation, so cvs wouldn't have worked and I havn't tried the cvs command directly for commits. Apply works great for me though. This sort of question (How do I...?) is best asked on the

Re: on openvms

2003-07-10 Thread Gus Heck
- The Ant task throws a BuildException if the exit code is unequal zero. Do you know how to get around that? Should the Execute class, in the case of VMS, map the exit status to what's common on Unix systems? Maybe we should provide a Execute.isFailure(int result) method that returns result !

Re: Checkstyle Audit

2003-07-03 Thread Gus Heck
minor: "RedundantThrowsCheck: It complains about BuildException. So is it prefered to eliminate the throws BuildException? or keep it? I'm willing to fix my code if I know what is actually desired here. Gus - To unsubscribe, e

property from a flat file

2003-06-11 Thread Gus Heck
Is there already a known way to load the entire contents of a file into a property? I know someone that wrote a custom task for this (using it with replace) and at a quick look I didn't see this functionality anywhere. Should I convince him to add a valuefromfile atribute to property? or did I

import statements

2003-06-10 Thread Gus Heck
I was noticing that the file I am working on has it's imports in alphabetical order. Is this the standard, or are we free to organize our imports however we want in submissions? I have noticed some that arn't quite alphabetical, and I actually prefer a different organization altogether -Gu

Re: Enhance chgrp/chown?

2003-05-22 Thread Gus Heck
Stefan Bodewig wrote: On Wed, 21 May 2003, Gus Heck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Stefan Bodewig wrote: currently chmod has a fair number of additional features. Which are? dir, includes, excludes, defaultexcludes... Please don't! These attributes come from the pre-fileset time and ar

Enhance chgrp/chown? (was: Re: cvs commit: ant/src/main/org/apache/tools/ant/taskdefs Chmod.java ExecuteOn.java)

2003-05-21 Thread Gus Heck
Stefan Bodewig wrote: currently chmod has a fair number of additional features. Which are? dir, includes, excludes, defaultexcludes... chmod supports these with it's own internal fileset. I could duplicate it into my AbstractAccessTask (I think) to produce a similar effect in my tasks, but I ha

Re: cvs commit: ant/src/main/org/apache/tools/ant/taskdefs Chmod.java ExecuteOn.java

2003-05-20 Thread Gus Heck
I noticed that this effects the chgrp and chown tasks... which also Extend ExcecuteOn and therefore now have the maxparallel atribute as well. I plan to patch the docs to reflect this and the fact that they seem to accept the verbose atribute as well. Other things I have noticed is that a littl

Re: cvs commit: ant/docs/manual/CoreTasks subant.html

2003-05-14 Thread Gus Heck
You could include my patch for the behavior you described (see http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=18391) or Andreas's patch (see http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=18715) which includes my functionality plus some other stuff too. -Gus Dominique Devienne wrote: This

Re: Roles (was: antlib)

2003-05-08 Thread Gus Heck
Jose Alberto Fernandez wrote: But ANT is not for experience XML users but for Java programmers or C or .NET (with the new tasks). ANT is popular because it is simple to use you do not have construccions that require you to read a full spec to understand. I am not against NS, but I am against forci

Re: ant tutorial

2003-04-16 Thread Gus Heck
I agree. This is really cool. The section labeled "Top Level Tasks" seems to say that tasks on the top level are run at parse-time. Does this mean that the order of tasks at the top level is the order of execution, or do the old toplevel tasks still run first? Gus Craeg Strong wrote: This tutor

Re: Ant task and dirset/fileset

2003-03-26 Thread Gus Heck
elements to compose the build path within. Hope that helps. --DD -Original Message- From: Gus Heck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 4:07 PM To: Ant Developers List Subject: Re: Ant task and dirset/fileset Ok I searched bugzilla and subant appears exactly once...

Re: Ant task and dirset/fileset

2003-03-25 Thread Gus Heck
d C++ libraries after all ;-) -Original Message- From: Gus Heck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 3:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Ant task and dirset/fileset Has anyone ever thought about or tried to make the ant task accept a filese

Ant task and dirset/fileset

2003-03-25 Thread Gus Heck
Has anyone ever thought about or tried to make the ant task accept a fileset or dirset? I have a use for such functionality but, before I go writing myself a custom version, or writing a patch, I thought I might ask if this has been tried, is being tried, or has be explicitly decided against?

Re: [VOTE] JDK 1.1 support

2003-03-20 Thread Gus Heck
Having said that, has anyone ever thought about whether the transition from synchronized 1.1 collections to unsynchronized 1.2 collections might pose any problems? At one time my understanding was that ant was esentially single threaded, but I just did some grepping and found the following places

Re: [VOTE] JDK 1.1 support

2003-03-19 Thread Gus Heck
Steve Loughran wrote: I don't see reasons to try to back-port fixes made on 1.6 to the 1.5. Only bugs identified by people running JDK 1.1 should make it to the 1.5 branch. This should be the only activity going on in that 1.5 branch. to date we are putting fixes to the 1.5 branch into 1.5.x, bo

Re: [VOTE] JDK 1.1 support

2003-03-19 Thread Gus Heck
I'm not a commiter, but I'd just like to say... +1.2 :-) -Gus Conor MacNeill wrote: Hi, This is to formalize the discussions which have gone on on the dev and user lists. Please indicate your vote. Everyone is free to vote but only committer votes are binding. Ant 1.6 will require JDK 1.2 to com

Re: Ant homepage in konqueror

2003-03-06 Thread Gus Heck
seems ok on konq 3.0.0-12 (rh linux 7.3) for me too Costin Manolache wrote: Does anyone else use konqueror ? It seems the margin on ant.apache.org is too small and it looks really. It looks ok on other browsers. Is it a browser bug or something we can fix ? Costin