Re: Patches from XFree86

2004-04-02 Thread Branden Robinson
On Thu, Apr 01, 2004 at 11:30:29AM -, Thomas Dickey wrote: > Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> It's likely that a well-defined question (for a yes/no answer) would get > >> some results. And as noted before, the appropriate place to ask questions > >> is not in a newsgroup, b

Re: Patches from XFree86

2004-04-01 Thread Thomas Dickey
Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> It's likely that a well-defined question (for a yes/no answer) would get >> some results. And as noted before, the appropriate place to ask questions >> is not in a newsgroup, but in the forum mailing list. (I'm not subscribed >> to that - don't lik

Re: Patches from XFree86

2004-04-01 Thread Branden Robinson
On Wed, Mar 31, 2004 at 09:32:28PM -, Thomas Dickey wrote: > Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Over the past 2--3 months, I and others have tried asking David Dawes, > > and Sue from X-Oz Technologies, Inc., for clarification of several > > issues related to the new licenses used

Re: Patches from XFree86

2004-03-31 Thread Thomas Dickey
Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Mar 30, 2004 at 09:40:03AM -, Thomas Dickey wrote: >> For some people, this appears to be simply by renaming things. > Sometimes things get renamed because a copyright license requires them > to be renamed upon modification (see some versio

Re: Patches from XFree86

2004-03-31 Thread Thomas Dickey
Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --0kRkyLZR5zsR9u2P > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Disposition: inline > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > On Tue, Mar 30, 2004 at 09:54:26AM -, Thomas Dickey wrote: >> Rather than argue about it(*) simply asking

Re: Patches from XFree86

2004-03-31 Thread Branden Robinson
On Tue, Mar 30, 2004 at 09:54:26AM -, Thomas Dickey wrote: > Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Tue, Mar 30, 2004 at 12:57:24AM -, Thomas Dickey wrote: > >> Perhaps you can point to a specific example. The only mentions I can > >> recall of copyright changes have been to

Re: Patches from XFree86

2004-03-31 Thread Branden Robinson
On Tue, Mar 30, 2004 at 11:54:19AM -, Thomas Dickey wrote: > Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> No code from XFree86 after the relicensing on 13 February 2004, or > >> bearing an X-Oz Technologies, Inc., copyright notice, should be included > >> in Debian's XFree86 packages (or an

Re: Patches from XFree86

2004-03-31 Thread Branden Robinson
On Tue, Mar 30, 2004 at 09:40:03AM -, Thomas Dickey wrote: > Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Would you prefer that they start asserting copyright once they've > >> completely > >> rewritten the code? > > > Well, I personally would prefer that: > > > 1) copyright is not asser

Re: Patches from XFree86

2004-03-30 Thread Thomas Dickey
Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sorry, this message had some errors in clarity, one of them serious. yes >> No code from XFree86 after the relicensing on 13 February 2004, or >> bearing an X-Oz Technologies, Inc., copyright notice, should be included >> in Debian's XFree86 packages

Re: Patches from XFree86

2004-03-30 Thread Thomas Dickey
Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Mar 30, 2004 at 12:57:24AM -, Thomas Dickey wrote: >> Perhaps you can point to a specific example. The only mentions I can >> recall of copyright changes have been to the Xserver area. > Here's a list of the relevant changes I know of to

Re: Patches from XFree86

2004-03-30 Thread Thomas Dickey
Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Would you prefer that they start asserting copyright once they've completely >> rewritten the code? > Well, I personally would prefer that: > 1) copyright is not asserted in a file until a substantially expressive cha= > nge has >been made to a f

Re: Patches from XFree86

2004-03-30 Thread Branden Robinson
On Tue, Mar 30, 2004 at 12:57:24AM -, Thomas Dickey wrote: > Keith Packard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Please be careful with patches from XFree86 -- these are now often tagged > > indicating that the patch is covered by the XFree86 1.1 license even while >

Re: Patches from XFree86

2004-03-30 Thread Branden Robinson
On Tue, Mar 30, 2004 at 01:59:20AM -, Thomas Dickey wrote: > Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > In many cases, this copyright is attached even to changes as simple as > > the following hypothetical example: > > Having observed too many "extensive rewrite" changelog comments whi

Re: Patches from XFree86

2004-03-30 Thread Branden Robinson
Sorry, this message had some errors in clarity, one of them serious. On Mon, Mar 29, 2004 at 04:52:32PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > I'm being adequately careful IMO, but I'm a paranoid guy, and it is > worth giving this issues some extra attention. s/issues/issue/ > No code from XFree86 aft

Re: Patches from XFree86

2004-03-29 Thread Thomas Dickey
On Mon, Mar 29, 2004 at 06:24:21PM -0800, Daniel Stone wrote: > On Tue, Mar 30, 2004 at 01:59:20AM -, Thomas Dickey wrote: > > Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > In many cases, this copyright is attached even to changes as simple as > > > the following hypothetical example: > >

Re: Patches from XFree86

2004-03-29 Thread Daniel Stone
On Tue, Mar 30, 2004 at 01:59:20AM -, Thomas Dickey wrote: > Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > In many cases, this copyright is attached even to changes as simple as > > the following hypothetical example: > > Having observed too many "extensive rewrite" changelog comments which

Re: Patches from XFree86

2004-03-29 Thread Thomas Dickey
Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In many cases, this copyright is attached even to changes as simple as > the following hypothetical example: Having observed too many "extensive rewrite" changelog comments which were little more than cosmetic changes, it's hard to say where to draw t

Re: Patches from XFree86

2004-03-29 Thread Thomas Dickey
Keith Packard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Please be careful with patches from XFree86 -- these are now often tagged > indicating that the patch is covered by the XFree86 1.1 license even while > the files patched are not. I don't know the legal status of files patched

Re: Patches from XFree86

2004-03-29 Thread Branden Robinson
On Fri, Mar 26, 2004 at 04:27:31PM -0800, Keith Packard wrote: > Please be careful with patches from XFree86 -- these are now often tagged > indicating that the patch is covered by the XFree86 1.1 license even while > the files patched are not. I don't know the legal status of

Patches from XFree86

2004-03-26 Thread Keith Packard
Please be careful with patches from XFree86 -- these are now often tagged indicating that the patch is covered by the XFree86 1.1 license even while the files patched are not. I don't know the legal status of files patched like this, but it seems best to get fixes from upstream and bypas