Re: [dwarf@polaris.net: Problem with X after upgrade to potato]

2000-12-13 Thread Seth Arnold
[No need to mail Branden directly; debian-user or debian-x are probably the better forums anyway.] * Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [001213 20:46]: > - Forwarded message from Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - > When working in X, I am often switching back to a console VC, and then >

Re: [pooh@lava.cs.tu-berlin.de: Debian Package xserver-common_4.0.1-11]

2000-12-13 Thread Seth Arnold
Rene (sorry, no idea how to get the nifty ' atop the 'e'. :) -- I haven't got a clue what you mean. :) It isn't so obvious to me, nor likely obvious to anyone else, that the 3.3.6 X server is in the package labeled 4.0.1-11. :) Sometimes, it is the obvious things that need to be pointed out -- si

[dwarf@polaris.net: Problem with X after upgrade to potato]

2000-12-13 Thread Branden Robinson
- Forwarded message from Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - From: Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Problem with X after upgrade to potato Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 10:55:39 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTE

Re: m68k MANIFEST for xfree86_4.0.1-11

2000-12-13 Thread Seth Arnold
* Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [001213 22:43]: > Let me know if this works out, and I will babysit XFree86 builds for m68k > myself, using the recently-donated G3. Well, I wasn't thinking of emulating one of those old machines -- I was thinking of setting up gcc to know about the processo

Re: m68k MANIFEST for xfree86_4.0.1-11

2000-12-13 Thread Branden Robinson
On Thu, Dec 14, 2000 at 12:28:54AM +0100, Christian T. Steigies wrote: > Here comes the new MANIFEST for m68k, I hope its not too late. > > Just for reference: Build needed 18:30:59 (so that Branden knows how long I > need _at least_ to get a new MANIFEST). Here it comes where? There was no MIM

Re: m68k MANIFEST for xfree86_4.0.1-11

2000-12-13 Thread Branden Robinson
On Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 07:25:23PM -0500, Ben Collins wrote: > On Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 03:46:49PM -0800, Seth Arnold wrote: > > * Christian T. Steigies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [001213 15:37]: > > > Just for reference: Build needed 18:30:59 (so that Branden knows how long I > > > need _at least_ to get

Re: [jstevens@eng.mcd.mot.com: Xfree broken]

2000-12-13 Thread Branden Robinson
On Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 01:58:18PM -0800, Seth Arnold wrote: > [Error messages from John] > > [Branden -- will the Xwrapper.config 'console' or 'root' option prevent > client connections from other hosts? Or does this effect only who can > run X locally, as I hope it does? :] The latter. The X

[pooh@lava.cs.tu-berlin.de: Debian Package xserver-common_4.0.1-11]

2000-12-13 Thread Branden Robinson
I can't really follow this one. - Forwarded message from Rene Tschirley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - From: Rene Tschirley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Debian Package xserver-common_4.0.1-11 Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 19:46:17 +0100 Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To:

Re: [dwarf@polaris.net: Problem with X after upgrade to potato]

2000-12-13 Thread Seth Arnold
[No need to mail Branden directly; debian-user or debian-x are probably the better forums anyway.] * Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [001213 20:46]: > - Forwarded message from Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - > When working in X, I am often switching back to a console VC, and then

Re: [pooh@lava.cs.tu-berlin.de: Debian Package xserver-common_4.0.1-11]

2000-12-13 Thread Seth Arnold
Rene (sorry, no idea how to get the nifty ' atop the 'e'. :) -- I haven't got a clue what you mean. :) It isn't so obvious to me, nor likely obvious to anyone else, that the 3.3.6 X server is in the package labeled 4.0.1-11. :) Sometimes, it is the obvious things that need to be pointed out -- s

[dwarf@polaris.net: Problem with X after upgrade to potato]

2000-12-13 Thread Branden Robinson
- Forwarded message from Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - From: Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Problem with X after upgrade to potato Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 10:55:39 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROT

[pooh@lava.cs.tu-berlin.de: Debian Package xserver-common_4.0.1-11]

2000-12-13 Thread Branden Robinson
I can't really follow this one. - Forwarded message from Rene Tschirley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - From: Rene Tschirley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Debian Package xserver-common_4.0.1-11 Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 19:46:17 +0100 Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To:

Re: -11 gives graphics corruption with V3 3000

2000-12-13 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 01:47:17PM -0500, Zephaniah E. Hull wrote: > On Tue, Dec 12, 2000 at 10:39:55PM +, Matthew Garrett wrote: > > xserver-xfree86-11 gives corruption on my V3 3000. Black bars run across > > the top of the screen, and moving windows causes corruption. I'm running at > > 1792

Re: m68k MANIFEST for xfree86_4.0.1-11

2000-12-13 Thread Michel Dänzer
Ben Collins wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 03:46:49PM -0800, Seth Arnold wrote: > > * Christian T. Steigies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [001213 15:37]: > > > Just for reference: Build needed 18:30:59 (so that Branden knows how > > > long I need _at least_ to get a new MANIFEST). > > > > Could a cross-

Re: m68k MANIFEST for xfree86_4.0.1-11

2000-12-13 Thread Ben Collins
On Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 03:46:49PM -0800, Seth Arnold wrote: > * Christian T. Steigies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [001213 15:37]: > > Just for reference: Build needed 18:30:59 (so that Branden knows how long I > > need _at least_ to get a new MANIFEST). > > Could a cross-compile environment bring this do

Re: m68k MANIFEST for xfree86_4.0.1-11

2000-12-13 Thread Seth Arnold
* Christian T. Steigies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [001213 15:37]: > Just for reference: Build needed 18:30:59 (so that Branden knows how long I > need _at least_ to get a new MANIFEST). Could a cross-compile environment bring this down? Is there any *need* to compile these things on an m68k? I imagine t

m68k MANIFEST for xfree86_4.0.1-11

2000-12-13 Thread Christian T. Steigies
Here comes the new MANIFEST for m68k, I hope its not too late. Just for reference: Build needed 18:30:59 (so that Branden knows how long I need _at least_ to get a new MANIFEST). Christian

Re: -11 gives graphics corruption with V3 3000

2000-12-13 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 01:47:17PM -0500, Zephaniah E. Hull wrote: > On Tue, Dec 12, 2000 at 10:39:55PM +, Matthew Garrett wrote: > > xserver-xfree86-11 gives corruption on my V3 3000. Black bars run across > > the top of the screen, and moving windows causes corruption. I'm running at > > 179

Re: [jstevens@eng.mcd.mot.com: Xfree broken]

2000-12-13 Thread Seth Arnold
John, I *think* xhost needs to be used more like: xhost +blah -- no space. ObQuestion: Have you restarted X since removing the -nolisten tcp bit? :) * John K. Stevenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [001213 14:43]: > Seth: > Oops, I am unclear again: > I did use "xhost + blah", and it still refuses. > Also

Re: m68k MANIFEST for xfree86_4.0.1-11

2000-12-13 Thread Michel Dänzer
Ben Collins wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 03:46:49PM -0800, Seth Arnold wrote: > > * Christian T. Steigies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [001213 15:37]: > > > Just for reference: Build needed 18:30:59 (so that Branden knows how > > > long I need _at least_ to get a new MANIFEST). > > > > Could a cross

Re: m68k MANIFEST for xfree86_4.0.1-11

2000-12-13 Thread Ben Collins
On Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 03:46:49PM -0800, Seth Arnold wrote: > * Christian T. Steigies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [001213 15:37]: > > Just for reference: Build needed 18:30:59 (so that Branden knows how long I > > need _at least_ to get a new MANIFEST). > > Could a cross-compile environment bring this d

Re: How do I get the TCP port back?

2000-12-13 Thread Seth Arnold
* Norbert Veber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [001213 13:28]: > I while back during one of my upgrades, I read something about a new > default -- X no longer listens on port 6000 for connections. I didnt > pay much attention at the time, but now it turns out that I need to have > remote X clients connect

Re: [jstevens@eng.mcd.mot.com: Xfree broken]

2000-12-13 Thread Seth Arnold
[Error messages from John] [Branden -- will the Xwrapper.config 'console' or 'root' option prevent client connections from other hosts? Or does this effect only who can run X locally, as I hope it does? :] Bummer about not being able to use ssh. (Though I am surprised the firewall would let X con

Re: m68k MANIFEST for xfree86_4.0.1-11

2000-12-13 Thread Seth Arnold
* Christian T. Steigies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [001213 15:37]: > Just for reference: Build needed 18:30:59 (so that Branden knows how long I > need _at least_ to get a new MANIFEST). Could a cross-compile environment bring this down? Is there any *need* to compile these things on an m68k? I imagine

How do I get the TCP port back?

2000-12-13 Thread Norbert Veber
Hi, I while back during one of my upgrades, I read something about a new default -- X no longer listens on port 6000 for connections. I didnt pay much attention at the time, but now it turns out that I need to have remote X clients connecting to my machine, and I cant figure out how to turn

m68k MANIFEST for xfree86_4.0.1-11

2000-12-13 Thread Christian T. Steigies
Here comes the new MANIFEST for m68k, I hope its not too late. Just for reference: Build needed 18:30:59 (so that Branden knows how long I need _at least_ to get a new MANIFEST). Christian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL

Re: [jstevens@eng.mcd.mot.com: Xfree broken]

2000-12-13 Thread Seth Arnold
John, I *think* xhost needs to be used more like: xhost +blah -- no space. ObQuestion: Have you restarted X since removing the -nolisten tcp bit? :) * John K. Stevenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [001213 14:43]: > Seth: > Oops, I am unclear again: > I did use "xhost + blah", and it still refuses. > Als

Re: How do I get the TCP port back?

2000-12-13 Thread Seth Arnold
* Norbert Veber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [001213 13:28]: > I while back during one of my upgrades, I read something about a new > default -- X no longer listens on port 6000 for connections. I didnt > pay much attention at the time, but now it turns out that I need to have > remote X clients connec

Re: [jstevens@eng.mcd.mot.com: Xfree broken]

2000-12-13 Thread Seth Arnold
[Error messages from John] [Branden -- will the Xwrapper.config 'console' or 'root' option prevent client connections from other hosts? Or does this effect only who can run X locally, as I hope it does? :] Bummer about not being able to use ssh. (Though I am surprised the firewall would let X co

How do I get the TCP port back?

2000-12-13 Thread Norbert Veber
Hi, I while back during one of my upgrades, I read something about a new default -- X no longer listens on port 6000 for connections. I didnt pay much attention at the time, but now it turns out that I need to have remote X clients connecting to my machine, and I cant figure out how to turn

Re: -11 gives graphics corruption with V3 3000

2000-12-13 Thread Zephaniah E. Hull
On Tue, Dec 12, 2000 at 10:39:55PM +, Matthew Garrett wrote: > xserver-xfree86-11 gives corruption on my V3 3000. Black bars run across > the top of the screen, and moving windows causes corruption. I'm running at > 1792x1344 using DRI. Dropping back to the xserver-10 package (and keeping > the

Re: Major texturing bugs in G400 DRI driver

2000-12-13 Thread Joshua Shagam
It seems that the problem in the G400 texturing bug is fixed in the current CVS version of XFree 4 DRI. I went and downloaded the CVS source tree last night (modems have enough bandwidth when you're not sitting there waiting :) and built the server myself... it seems that there's a bug in the rela

Re: -11 gives graphics corruption with V3 3000

2000-12-13 Thread Zephaniah E\. Hull
On Tue, Dec 12, 2000 at 10:39:55PM +, Matthew Garrett wrote: > xserver-xfree86-11 gives corruption on my V3 3000. Black bars run across > the top of the screen, and moving windows causes corruption. I'm running at > 1792x1344 using DRI. Dropping back to the xserver-10 package (and keeping > th

Re: Major texturing bugs in G400 DRI driver

2000-12-13 Thread Joshua Shagam
It seems that the problem in the G400 texturing bug is fixed in the current CVS version of XFree 4 DRI. I went and downloaded the CVS source tree last night (modems have enough bandwidth when you're not sitting there waiting :) and built the server myself... it seems that there's a bug in the rel

Re: [stupid question warning] kernel atyfb & XF86 4.0 ati driver ?

2000-12-13 Thread Michel Dänzer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Did anybody here ever (succesfully) try to get the combination > of the atyfb driver and the XFree86 4.0.x ati driver to work > properly ? > > I'm using the lastest (-11) packages and the most current kernel > (2.4.0-test12) on an2 year old laptop with an Mach64 Rage

Re: Tracking XFree86 CVS on a Potato system

2000-12-13 Thread Michel Dänzer
Juliusz Chroboczek wrote: > The issue is that I want to *litterally* track XFree86 CVS. I want to > be able to say ``cvs diff'' when I'm working on XFree86. Who doesn't? :) > Unless someone has better ideas, then, I guess I'll install Charl's > packages and then overwrite them with my own binar

Re: [mongoose@users.sourceforge.net: X upgrade policy]

2000-12-13 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> Seth Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > * Marcelo E. Magallon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [001213 00:21]: > > But the question still remains: why should a user put packages on > > hold before an upgrade? He's got a working configuration, and AFAICS > > it's possible to keep it. > > Using t

Re: [stupid question warning] kernel atyfb & XF86 4.0 ati driver ?

2000-12-13 Thread Michel Dänzer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Did anybody here ever (succesfully) try to get the combination > of the atyfb driver and the XFree86 4.0.x ati driver to work > properly ? > > I'm using the lastest (-11) packages and the most current kernel > (2.4.0-test12) on an2 year old laptop with an Mach64 Rage

Re: [stupid question warning] kernel atyfb & XF86 4.0 ati driver ?

2000-12-13 Thread Christian T. Steigies
On Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 12:37:13PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Did anybody here ever (succesfully) try to get the combination > of the atyfb driver and the XFree86 4.0.x ati driver to work > properly ? Yup, here! Working fine on two machines with RagePro. On the console I have some pro

[stupid question warning] kernel atyfb & XF86 4.0 ati driver ?

2000-12-13 Thread neuffer
Did anybody here ever (succesfully) try to get the combination of the atyfb driver and the XFree86 4.0.x ati driver to work properly ? I'm using the lastest (-11) packages and the most current kernel (2.4.0-test12) on an2 year old laptop with an Mach64 Rage Pro LT chipset. The xserver comes up

Re: Tracking XFree86 CVS on a Potato system

2000-12-13 Thread Michel Dänzer
Juliusz Chroboczek wrote: > The issue is that I want to *litterally* track XFree86 CVS. I want to > be able to say ``cvs diff'' when I'm working on XFree86. Who doesn't? :) > Unless someone has better ideas, then, I guess I'll install Charl's > packages and then overwrite them with my own bina

Re: [mongoose@users.sourceforge.net: X upgrade policy]

2000-12-13 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> Seth Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > * Marcelo E. Magallon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [001213 00:21]: > > But the question still remains: why should a user put packages on > > hold before an upgrade? He's got a working configuration, and AFAICS > > it's possible to keep it. > > Using

Re: [stupid question warning] kernel atyfb & XF86 4.0 ati driver ?

2000-12-13 Thread Christian T. Steigies
On Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 12:37:13PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Did anybody here ever (succesfully) try to get the combination > of the atyfb driver and the XFree86 4.0.x ati driver to work > properly ? Yup, here! Working fine on two machines with RagePro. On the console I have some pr

the potato backported packages

2000-12-13 Thread Branden Robinson
Charl, certain dumb people are starting to use the Debian BTS to file bugs against the potato backport packages. Even *if* my current packages are building fine out of the box on potato systems right now, there's no guarantee that will continue to be the case and I cannot support them. Please mod

Re: [jstevens@eng.mcd.mot.com: Xfree broken]

2000-12-13 Thread Seth Arnold
John, I am going to guess at what you are trying to say; cutting and pasting error messages, complete with examples of what you are trying to execture (say, how script(1) would perform) would help immensely, particularly with this description. There, that said, my guess says you are trying to run

[jstevens@eng.mcd.mot.com: Xfree broken]

2000-12-13 Thread Branden Robinson
- Forwarded message from John Stevenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - From: John Stevenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Xfree broken Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 19:51:33 -0800 Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Mailer:

Re: [mongoose@users.sourceforge.net: X upgrade policy]

2000-12-13 Thread Seth Arnold
* Marcelo E. Magallon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [001213 00:21]: > But the question still remains: why should a user put packages on > hold before an upgrade? He's got a working configuration, and AFAICS > it's possible to keep it. Using the -u flag with apt would have saved him as much as using = in

[stupid question warning] kernel atyfb & XF86 4.0 ati driver ?

2000-12-13 Thread neuffer
Did anybody here ever (succesfully) try to get the combination of the atyfb driver and the XFree86 4.0.x ati driver to work properly ? I'm using the lastest (-11) packages and the most current kernel (2.4.0-test12) on an2 year old laptop with an Mach64 Rage Pro LT chipset. The xserver comes u

Re: [mongoose@users.sourceforge.net: X upgrade policy]

2000-12-13 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
[Don't Cc me, I'm on the list] >> Terry 'Mongoose' Hendrix II <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > It seems to be that gtk depends on X 4.0.1+, and that caused my working > xserver to be purged and replaced. Still, I want to be able to use > 3.3.6-18 and utah packages for G400 and G200 - and they'

Re: [mongoose@users.sourceforge.net: X upgrade policy]

2000-12-13 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> Seth Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > * Marcelo E. Magallon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [001212 16:39]: > > [...] and Utah's has some advantages for some people. > > And the one person who has seemed to be effected thus far did not take > the time and effort to put his packages on hold. :-P

the potato backported packages

2000-12-13 Thread Branden Robinson
Charl, certain dumb people are starting to use the Debian BTS to file bugs against the potato backport packages. Even *if* my current packages are building fine out of the box on potato systems right now, there's no guarantee that will continue to be the case and I cannot support them. Please mo

Re: [jstevens@eng.mcd.mot.com: Xfree broken]

2000-12-13 Thread Seth Arnold
John, I am going to guess at what you are trying to say; cutting and pasting error messages, complete with examples of what you are trying to execture (say, how script(1) would perform) would help immensely, particularly with this description. There, that said, my guess says you are trying to run

Re: [bruce@perens.com: user not authorized to run the X server]

2000-12-13 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> Gordon Sadler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > However, my issue is not HOW to fix it, but rather after fixing it > it does not stay fixed. Every upgrade requires me to again dpkg- > reconfigure xserver-common. That was the thought behind my bug, maybe > Branden doesn't quite realize what I me

[jstevens@eng.mcd.mot.com: Xfree broken]

2000-12-13 Thread Branden Robinson
- Forwarded message from John Stevenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - From: John Stevenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Xfree broken Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 19:51:33 -0800 Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Mailer

Re: [mongoose@users.sourceforge.net: X upgrade policy]

2000-12-13 Thread Seth Arnold
* Marcelo E. Magallon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [001213 00:21]: > But the question still remains: why should a user put packages on > hold before an upgrade? He's got a working configuration, and AFAICS > it's possible to keep it. Using the -u flag with apt would have saved him as much as using = i

Re: [mongoose@users.sourceforge.net: X upgrade policy]

2000-12-13 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
[Don't Cc me, I'm on the list] >> Terry 'Mongoose' Hendrix II <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > It seems to be that gtk depends on X 4.0.1+, and that caused my working > xserver to be purged and replaced. Still, I want to be able to use > 3.3.6-18 and utah packages for G400 and G200 - and they

Re: [mongoose@users.sourceforge.net: X upgrade policy]

2000-12-13 Thread Terry 'Mongoose' Hendrix II
Seth Arnold wrote: Compared against Utah, at least the last time I looked at it, this is really pretty quick and easy. Whether or not the features supported by Utah are imporant enough to justify the work involved with getting it to go is entirely dependent upon the applications one needs to ru

Re: 4.0.1-11 breaks text and images on SiS 86C326

2000-12-13 Thread Benjamin Redelings I
> > Weird. I just upgraded to -11 and when xdm starts, the login widget shows > up as a blank box. Even weirder, switching to a text console and back > suddenly brings the text back! (Except that it cleared the background to > white in the process) Everything seems to work OK now, but earlier on,

Re: [mongoose@users.sourceforge.net: X upgrade policy]

2000-12-13 Thread Terry 'Mongoose' Hendrix II
Marcelo E. Magallon wrote: As the gtkglarea maintainer (and since you hinted it's the OpenGL subsystem what broke) I feel this is somehow my fault... could you please elaborate on this? It seems to be that gtk depends on X 4.0.1+, and that caused my working xserver to be purged and repla

Re: [mongoose@users.sourceforge.net: X upgrade policy]

2000-12-13 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> Seth Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > * Marcelo E. Magallon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [001212 16:39]: > > [...] and Utah's has some advantages for some people. > > And the one person who has seemed to be effected thus far did not take > the time and effort to put his packages on hold. :-P

Re: Utah GLX

2000-12-13 Thread Terry 'Mongoose' Hendrix II
Seth Arnold wrote: Perhaps it is cutting out users who join the project with woody's original release. You don't fall into this category. You *can* install 3.3.6-11potato18 though, which is probably pretty damn close to the 3.3.6-18 you miss so much. I feel like after giving a 'head's up' on