Re: "family name, personal name" in devel/people

2003-02-01 Thread Denis Barbier
On Sat, Feb 01, 2003 at 11:48:35AM +0900, Tomohiro KUBOTA wrote: [...] > I know that convention. However, the convention is related to Japanese > people's custom, not western languages. It is proved by your example > of Hungarian or Chinese. Thus, it is Japanese people (not English > speakers) w

Re: "family name, personal name" in devel/people

2003-02-01 Thread Osamu Aoki
Kubota-san, I do not think we are too far in what we wish to achieve. Your statement left me with a feel that I am labeled as an individual who is forcing "western" convention. If you are thinking me as such, I can assure you I am a complete opposite. On Sat, Feb 01, 2003 at 11:48:35AM +0900, T

Re: "family name, personal name" in devel/people

2003-01-31 Thread Tomohiro KUBOTA
Hi, From: Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: "family name, personal name" in devel/people Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 13:16:23 -0800 > If Oohara Yuuma said "In Japan a family name comes before a personal > name in _Japanese_ _language_ context. I want to retain

Re: "family name, personal name" in devel/people

2003-01-31 Thread Osamu Aoki
I think some misunderstanding happened. On Fri, Jan 31, 2003 at 06:51:40PM +0900, Tomohiro KUBOTA wrote: > From: Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > From Oohara Yuuma > > > My family name is Oohara and my personal name is Yuuma. I am _not_ > > > Yuuma Oohara -- in Japan a family name comes befo

Re: "family name, personal name" in devel/people

2003-01-31 Thread Josip Rodin
On Fri, Jan 31, 2003 at 06:51:40PM +0900, Tomohiro KUBOTA wrote: > > I am sorry but I have to remind you that you are very likely to be > > called officially "Yuuma Oohara" in the letters your government issues > > in English or French. That may be where you have to fight :-) I do not > > understa

Re: "family name, personal name" in devel/people

2003-01-31 Thread Gerfried Fuchs
* Tomohiro KUBOTA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-01-31 18:51]: > From: Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: "family name, personal name" in devel/people > Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 00:45:16 -0800 Uhm, please try to produce a sensible way for an attribution lin

Re: "family name, personal name" in devel/people

2003-01-31 Thread Tomohiro KUBOTA
Hi, From: Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: "family name, personal name" in devel/people Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 00:45:16 -0800 > > My family name is Oohara and my personal name is Yuuma. I am _not_ > > Yuuma Oohara -- in Japan a family name comes before

Re: "family name, personal name" in devel/people

2003-01-31 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Fri, Jan 31, 2003 at 01:15:16AM +0900, Oohara Yuuma wrote: > > cn: Oohara > > sn: Yuuma > > ... > > There does seem to be an error in Yuuma Oohara's entry, though -- cn > > and sn are reversed. This email is Cc:ed to the developer and > > debian-admin so that the error can be verified and then f

Re: "family name, personal name" in devel/people

2003-01-31 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Thu, Jan 30, 2003 at 03:44:44PM +0100, Josip Rodin wrote: > > > - elsif ($maintainer =~ /KELEMEN Peter <(.+)>/io) { > > > - $lastname = 'Kelemen'; $firstname = 'Peter'; $email = > > > $1; Dah, it is minus. No wonder. > Err... the last chunk of his patch implemented th

Re: "family name, personal name" in devel/people

2003-01-30 Thread Josip Rodin
On Fri, Jan 31, 2003 at 01:15:16AM +0900, Oohara Yuuma wrote: > > % ldapsearch -P2 -x -h db.debian.org -b > > 'uid=oohara,ou=users,dc=debian,dc=org' cn mn sn > > ... > > cn: Oohara > > sn: Yuuma > > ... > > > > There does seem to be an error in Yuuma Oohara's entry, though -- cn and sn > > are re

Re: "family name, personal name" in devel/people

2003-01-30 Thread Josip Rodin
On Thu, Jan 30, 2003 at 04:51:42PM +0100, Josip Rodin wrote: > In any case, I'll start applying all this now. It worked fine. Thanks. -- 2. That which causes joy or happiness.

Re: "family name, personal name" in devel/people

2003-01-30 Thread Oohara Yuuma
[please Cc: to me because I am not subscribed to either list] On Thu, 30 Jan 2003 16:01:12 +0100, Josip Rodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > % ldapsearch -P2 -x -h db.debian.org -b > 'uid=oohara,ou=users,dc=debian,dc=org' cn mn sn > ... > cn: Oohara > sn: Yuuma > ... > > There does seem to be an e

Re: "family name, personal name" in devel/people

2003-01-30 Thread Matt Kraai
On Thu, Jan 30, 2003 at 12:02:26PM +0100, Josip Rodin wrote: > On Wed, Jan 29, 2003 at 11:06:59PM -0800, Matt Kraai wrote: > > elsif ($maintainer =~ /Sylvain LE GALL <(.+)>/) { > > $lastname = 'Le Gall'; $firstname = 'Sylvain'; $email = > > $1; > > } >

Re: "family name, personal name" in devel/people

2003-01-30 Thread Josip Rodin
On Thu, Jan 30, 2003 at 07:46:13AM -0800, Matt Kraai wrote: > > > - elsif ($maintainer =~ /Taku YASUI <(.+)>/) { > > > - $lastname = 'Yasui'; $firstname = 'Taku'; $email = $1; > > > + elsif ($maintainer =~ /Hatta Shuzo <(.+)>/) { > > > + $lastname = '

Re: "family name, personal name" in devel/people

2003-01-30 Thread Josip Rodin
On Thu, Jan 30, 2003 at 10:40:26AM +0100, Gerfried Fuchs wrote: > Oh, when looking at the script it _does_ use the cn and sn data Well, not exactly, the devel/people script uses the data but it doesn't take it as authoritative. > Then it seems that the database is filled wrongly. We shouldn

Re: "family name, personal name" in devel/people

2003-01-30 Thread Josip Rodin
On Thu, Jan 30, 2003 at 02:08:38AM -0800, Osamu Aoki wrote: > > --- people.pl.orig Thu Jan 30 08:06:12 2003 > > +++ people.pl Thu Jan 30 07:59:51 2003 > > @@ -172,9 +172,6 @@ > > elsif ($maintainer =~ /Javier Fernandez-Sanguino > > Pen~a\s+<(.+)>/o) { > > $la

Re: "family name, personal name" in devel/people

2003-01-30 Thread Tomohiro KUBOTA
Hi, From: Michael Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: "family name, personal name" in devel/people Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 07:32:49 -0500 > Well, this is simply an example of how you can't please all of the > people all of the time. You brought these examples up be

Re: "family name, personal name" in devel/people

2003-01-30 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Jan 29, 2003 at 07:20:32PM +0900, Tomohiro KUBOTA wrote: would ask to change name order, I would certainly stimulate the core part of flamewar and Japanese members of Debian might drop their activity as developers.) Well, this is simply an example of how you can't please all of the peop

Re: "family name, personal name" in devel/people

2003-01-30 Thread Josip Rodin
On Wed, Jan 29, 2003 at 11:06:59PM -0800, Matt Kraai wrote: > elsif ($maintainer =~ /Sylvain LE GALL <(.+)>/) { > $lastname = 'Le Gall'; $firstname = 'Sylvain'; $email = > $1; > } I was wondering if you'd get the above to work, too :o) > -

Re: "family name, personal name" in devel/people

2003-01-30 Thread Gerfried Fuchs
* Tomohiro KUBOTA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-01-29 13:56]: > It is because the web page is automatically generated by a script > from developers database on db.debian.org . The script assumes > the first part of name is given name and the last part is family > name. Since there are many names whic

Re: "family name, personal name" in devel/people

2003-01-30 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Wed, Jan 29, 2003 at 11:06:59PM -0800, Matt Kraai wrote: > > --- people.pl.origThu Jan 30 08:06:12 2003 > +++ people.pl Thu Jan 30 07:59:51 2003 > @@ -172,9 +172,6 @@ > elsif ($maintainer =~ /Javier Fernandez-Sanguino > Pen~a\s+<(.+)>/o) { > $lastname =

Re: "family name, personal name" in devel/people

2003-01-30 Thread Matt Kraai
On Wed, Jan 29, 2003 at 11:04:54AM +0100, Josip Rodin wrote: > On Wed, Jan 29, 2003 at 01:56:30PM +0900, Tomohiro KUBOTA wrote: > > You know, some Japanese people write names in their native order, > > "Family Given", and such expressions exist in db.debian.org database. > > > > ... but I checked

Re: "family name, personal name" in devel/people

2003-01-29 Thread Tomohiro KUBOTA
Hi, From: Josip Rodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: "family name, personal name" in devel/people Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 10:33:58 +0100 > % grep-available -F Maintainer Shuzo -s Maintainer | sort -u > Maintainer: HATTA Shuzo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Maintainer

Re: "family name, personal name" in devel/people

2003-01-29 Thread Josip Rodin
On Wed, Jan 29, 2003 at 01:56:30PM +0900, Tomohiro KUBOTA wrote: > You know, some Japanese people write names in their native order, > "Family Given", and such expressions exist in db.debian.org database. > > ... but I checked the script > (klecker:/org/www.debian.org/cron/people_scripts/people.pl

Re: "family name, personal name" in devel/people

2003-01-29 Thread Josip Rodin
On Tue, Jan 28, 2003 at 07:48:35PM -0800, Osamu Aoki wrote: > > > I imagine names in http://www.debian.org/devel/people have the > > > unified format of "Surname, Given name". > > > > > > I found two exceptions: > > > > > > "Shuzo, Hatta", where "Hatta" is surname and "Shuzo" is given name. > > >

Re: "family name, personal name" in devel/people

2003-01-28 Thread Tomohiro KUBOTA
Hi, From: Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: "family name, personal name" in devel/people Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 19:48:35 -0800 > > > "Shuzo, Hatta", where "Hatta" is surname and "Shuzo" is given name. > > > "Yuuma, Oo

Re: "family name, personal name" in devel/people

2003-01-28 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Wed, Jan 29, 2003 at 02:25:18AM +0100, Josip Rodin wrote: > On Wed, Jan 29, 2003 at 09:26:34AM +0900, Tomohiro KUBOTA wrote: > > I imagine names in http://www.debian.org/devel/people have the > > unified format of "Surname, Given name". > > > > I found two exceptions: > > > > "Shuzo, Hatta", w

Re: "family name, personal name" in devel/people

2003-01-28 Thread Josip Rodin
On Wed, Jan 29, 2003 at 09:26:34AM +0900, Tomohiro KUBOTA wrote: > I imagine names in http://www.debian.org/devel/people have the > unified format of "Surname, Given name". > > I found two exceptions: > > "Shuzo, Hatta", where "Hatta" is surname and "Shuzo" is given name. > > "Yuuma, Oohara", wh

"family name, personal name" in devel/people

2003-01-28 Thread Tomohiro KUBOTA
Hi, I imagine names in http://www.debian.org/devel/people have the unified format of "Surname, Given name". I found two exceptions: "Shuzo, Hatta", where "Hatta" is surname and "Shuzo" is given name. "Yuuma, Oohara", where "Oohara" is surname and "Yuuma" is given name. --- Tomohiro KUBOTA <[EM