Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

2015-05-02 Thread iammyr
Hi Vincent, Miriam and Suso, I absolutely support your positions. In particular I totally agree with this: On 01/05/15 17:39, Vincent Lejeune wrote: > Actually it is not inappropriate in a age rating perspective. > It's rather : a game that was presented as a family game and which had > a non hum

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

2015-05-02 Thread Dmitry Smirnov
On Sat, 2 May 2015 11:34:14 iammyr wrote: > If that's the case then I perfectly see how Debian should do something > about this. It's not that because everyone is used to only see useless > females in videogames since Super Mario came along, then this should > continue happening for ever and Debian

Re: Claims of racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9 on Debian mailing lists

2015-05-02 Thread Ansgar Burchardt
For what it's worth, this is what upstream has to say. They forgot to Cc d-d-g@, but asked me to forward it. Ansgar Hi, I'm from the SuperTuxKart development team and some people will probably not care/twist what I'm about

Re: Claims of racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9 on Debian mailing lists

2015-05-02 Thread iammyr
Thanks a lot for the clarification. I'm happy to hear there are other female characters and Sara's role is not only about showing off her body. In this case I personally have nothing more against the game. I was personally basing my opinion on the discussion and not the game itself and that was m

Re: Claims of racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9 on Debian mailing lists

2015-05-02 Thread Zlatan Todoric
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 05/02/2015 03:34 PM, iammyr wrote: > Thanks a lot for the clarification. > > I'm happy to hear there are other female characters and Sara's role > is not only about showing off her body. In this case I personally > have nothing more against the

Re: Claims of racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9 on Debian mailing lists

2015-05-02 Thread suso . baleato
@Ansgar: you forgot to include that person in CC. Please, include. Ansgar Burchardt escrebeu: > For what it's worth, this is what upstream has to say. They forgot to Cc > d-d-g@, but asked me to forward it. > > Ansgar > > >

Re: Claims of racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9 on Debian mailing lists

2015-05-02 Thread Hans de Goede
Hi, Disclaimer: this is my personal opinion not that of my employer ... On 02-05-15 16:35, suso.bale...@gmail.com wrote: @Ansgar: you forgot to include that person in CC. Please, include. Ansgar Burchardt escrebeu: For what it's worth, this is what upstream has to say. They forgot to Cc d-d-g

Re: Claims of racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9 on Debian mailing lists

2015-05-02 Thread suso . baleato
Hans de Goede escrebeu: > Hi, > > Disclaimer: this is my personal opinion not that of my employer ... > > On 02-05-15 16:35, suso.bale...@gmail.com wrote: > >@Ansgar: you forgot to include that person in CC. Please, include. > > > >Ansgar Burchardt escrebeu: > >>For what it's worth, this is what

Re: Re: Claims of racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9 on Debian mailing lists

2015-05-02 Thread Catherine Gramze
Hi. I subscribe to this list, but am actually not involved in Debian development in any way. I thought I would add an outside point of view of Sara. I looked at all the images posted. Sara is not anorexic, and more closely resembles the real physical build of a young teen -like my 13 year old

Re: Claims of racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9 on Debian mailing lists

2015-05-02 Thread Marko Lindqvist
On 2 May 2015 at 16:15, Ansgar Burchardt wrote: > For what it's worth, this is what upstream has to say. They forgot to Cc > d-d-g@, but asked me to forward it. > However I think it's important to clarify some stuff. Thank you. > Focusing only on her bikini or the number of time she is in a t

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

2015-05-02 Thread Amaya
iammyr wrote: > Hi Vincent, Miriam and Suso, > > I absolutely support your positions. Just dropping a line to let you know that I also see the concers raised and argued by all of you, in case it matters. -- .''`.The world breaks everyone, and afterward, some are : :' :strong a

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

2015-05-02 Thread Vincent Lejeune
2015-05-01 23:47 GMT+02:00 Gaudenz Steinlin : > Vincent Lejeune writes: > >>>From: Brian Gupta >> >>>Addressing the question of age-inappropriateness and speaking as a >>>parent of a young boy and girl, who tries to be vigilant for >>>age-inappropriate content, I see absolutely no issue with this

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

2015-05-02 Thread Miriam Ruiz
2015-05-03 0:41 GMT+02:00 Vincent Lejeune : > I attached the patches in the mail. > remove_sara_pants_animation.patch can be aplied on 0.8.1 (which is > already shipping in debian testing). > The others 2 removes the monkeys in cocoa_temple and the women in > bikini in gran paradisio island. Lots

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

2015-05-02 Thread Ansgar Burchardt
Hi Vincent, your comparison with Mario Kart as a family-friendly game and just having looked a bit at the PEGI rating system[1] made me wonder: [1] Most Super Mario and Mario Kart games seem to have a PEGI 3 and a few PEGI 7. The description for PEGI 12

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

2015-05-02 Thread Vincent Lejeune
Le 3 mai 2015 01:36, "Ansgar Burchardt" a écrit : > > Hi Vincent, > > your comparison with Mario Kart as a family-friendly game and just > having looked a bit at the PEGI rating system[1] made me wonder: > > [1] > > Most Super Mario and Mario Kart games see