On Tue, 2004-07-27 at 17:10, Helen Faulkner wrote:
> I really would not like to see *anyone* who is trying to help us getting
> the impression that we don't want them about. I think parts of the
> discussion we've had about the supporters page idea will probably be
> discouraging to men who we
Erinn Clark wrote:
This discussion is only indicative of opposing ideas, some of them fairly
polarised. I'd say for now maybe we should defer it -- particularly the
contributors page -- until we've actually started doing work. If people
work on the website, they can attach their names to whicheve
* Helen Faulkner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004:07:27 08:10 +0100]:
> But I think the website is going to end up being only a small part of
> the ways in which we achieve the aim of getting more women involved in
> debian. We need people to be about on the irc channel to answer
> newcomers' questi
Jutta Wrage wrote:
let us look from people, who are visiting the page:
If they acct like me , the will sometimes look:
1. Who is responsible (and doin the actual work)?
2. maybe: Who else contributes to the project (f/m)
Given those I know, what they have done or will do:
Erinn is in 1
Others
Am Montag, 26.07.04 um 14:14 Uhr schrieb Erinn Clark:
I agree with the contributors page. People should get credit for things
they've done. The interesting bit is going to be defining what
qualifies as
a contribution..
Okay, let us look from people, who are visiting the page:
If they acct
On Mon, Jul 26, 2004 at 08:14:00AM -0400, Erinn Clark wrote:
>
> 1. People agree with having a contributors page
> 2. The supporters page is still controversial
I still haven't quite made up my mind on whether I'd consider having
a supporters page a good idea or not. I think what bothers me most
On Monday 26 July 2004 8:13 am, Nori Heikkinen wrote:
> on Mon, 26 Jul 2004 09:10:01AM -0400, Erinn Clark insinuated:
> > * Helen Faulkner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004:07:25 23:41 +0100]:
> > > 2) The comments by the debian developers on Amaya's site, in
> > > answer to the questions, were interesti
on Mon, 26 Jul 2004 09:10:01AM -0400, Erinn Clark insinuated:
> * Helen Faulkner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004:07:25 23:41 +0100]:
> > 2) The comments by the debian developers on Amaya's site, in
> > answer to the questions, were interesting to me to read. They
> > represent a range of opinions and
Erinn Clark wrote:
2. The supporters page is still controversial
I have been pretty much reading most of this thread, but I probably have
missed a few things. I did think, though, it might be time to weigh in.
One suggestion that I have is that it might make sense to define
supporters rathe
* Helen Faulkner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004:07:25 23:41 +0100]:
> 2) The comments by the debian developers on Amaya's site, in answer to
> the questions, were interesting to me to read. They represent a range
> of opinions and ideas. They may get other people than me thinking about
> the issu
Hi again all,
1. People agree with having a contributors page
2. The supporters page is still controversial
I have to wonder what the point of the latter is. I found the perspectives
interesting, but I also disagreed with quite a few of them and felt they
were a bit condescending; not at all t
* Amaya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004:07:26 13:03 +0200]:
> nicole wrote:
> > If we don't have a supporters section, we should have a contributors
> > section.
>
> Again I truly believe in *visibility*. A contributors section would help
> a lot there. Do you want me to take car of it too?.
I've not
nicole wrote:
> If we don't have a supporters section, we should have a contributors
> section.
Again I truly believe in *visibility*. A contributors section would help
a lot there. Do you want me to take car of it too?.
> Either section, I think, should be "gender agnostic" and not "gender
> spe
Don Armstrong wrote:
> Perhaps it would be better to make the supporter page gender neutral?
Great idea! I know where to find the guys, will the women know where to
find me? :-)
I sure welcome any support feedback from women. And I indeed think it's
a great idea.
--
.''`. Resistance is fu
At 16:33 on Jul 25, Don Armstrong shook the earth with:
> Perhaps it would be better to make the supporter page gender neutral?
> A woman can bqe just as much a supporter of debian-women as a man can,
> and presumably the same objective criteria could be applied to both.
I also think if we do ha
On Sun, 25 Jul 2004, Helen Faulkner wrote:
> FWIW, I think that having a supporters page is a good idea, for the
> following reasons:
>
> 1) If you ask someone to write down answers to questions such as
> Amaya (as as understand it) asked those male developers, you force
> them to verbalise their
Helen Faulkner wrote:
> Can we suggest other debian-developers who might like to answer your
> questions, because I know one who I think would be interested, if he
> has time.
Please do. All of you. Developers or contributors :-)
--
.''`. Resistance is futile. You will be componentized.
: :
On Sunday 25 July 2004 3:41 pm, Helen Faulkner wrote:
> I am thinking about some of the comments made on the list about the
> issue of women being treated more gently than men, or similar ideas. If
> I recall correctly, some people are worried about the idea that we might
> be percieved as want
Hello Everyone,
Wow - I go away for a few days (camping - no possibilty of bringing my
laptop along, actually I think the last week is the longest time in
years that I've been without it - that's probably a sad indication of my
priorities in life), and come back to find much interesting discus
On Sat, Jul 24, 2004 at 05:17:02PM -0700, Carla Schroder wrote:
> I really like Libranet, 'cause it's Real Debian with a great installer
So you're going to be helping make sure sarge's installer is just as
good, right? :)
--
Steve Langasek
postmodern programmer
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> open to any kind of feedback, including the "ban this girl" kind.
Do not ban this girl..:-)
Amaya, you're full of enthusiasm and enthusiasm is also deeply
needed. So, don't give up, the recent glitches are away now and there
will be other occasions of flames and conflicts in the future.
Gi
All feedback for today is up.
There's a beta (and highly unofficial, in no way endorsed by the
project) site up, with some info and resurces regarding the Debian Women
Project at: http://debian-women.opensource-knowhow.com/
Please don't see this as a fork, or an attempt to hijack anything.
I just
On Saturday 24 July 2004 4:54 pm, Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 24, 2004 at 03:06:57PM -0700, Carla Schroder wrote:
> > On Saturday 24 July 2004 2:50 pm, Steve Langasek wrote:
> > > On Sat, Jul 24, 2004 at 12:21:20PM -0700, Carla Schroder wrote:
>
> You have a mixed Libranet/Debian system;
On Sat, Jul 24, 2004 at 03:06:57PM -0700, Carla Schroder wrote:
> On Saturday 24 July 2004 2:50 pm, Steve Langasek wrote:
> > On Sat, Jul 24, 2004 at 12:21:20PM -0700, Carla Schroder wrote:
> > > > I don't care about the supporters page anymore.
> > > > But I care about making up for the harrasin
On Saturday 24 July 2004 2:50 pm, Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 24, 2004 at 12:21:20PM -0700, Carla Schroder wrote:
>
> > > I don't care about the supporters page anymore.
> > > But I care about making up for the harrasing you have been through.
>
> > Can you fix Perl in Sid? :)
>
> > Th
On Sat, Jul 24, 2004 at 12:21:20PM -0700, Carla Schroder wrote:
> > I don't care about the supporters page anymore.
> > But I care about making up for the harrasing you have been through.
> Can you fix Perl in Sid? :)
> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
> amavisd-new: Depends:
On Sat, Jul 24, 2004 at 10:28:54PM +0200, Amaya wrote:
As I keep getting feedback, I will update it to a website, instead of
spamming the list. Please ask me privately if you are interested in the
URL.
So you didn't really want honest feedback, you just wanted something to
stoke your ego. I ap
As I keep getting feedback, I will update it to a website, instead of
spamming the list. Please ask me privately if you are interested in the
URL.
--
.''`. Resistance is futile. You will be componentized.
: :' :
`. `' Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux (Sid 2.6.6 Ext3)
`- www.amayit
Jonathan Walther wrote:
> you used to put Hitler quotes in your .signature.
s/quotes/quote/g
Specifically:
A woman must be a cute, cuddly, naive little thing --tender, sweet,
and stupid.
-- Adolf Hitler
Which is the reason he was in my debian mailbox in the first place,
On Saturday 24 July 2004 8:25 am, Amaya wrote:
> I guess after the bad taste in our mouths caused by me accidentally
> inviting a vampire into our little home ;-) you girls (and supporting
> boys) would want to see a little support from friendly Debian
> Developers.
OK I take back the banning comm
Jonathan Walther wrote on Sat, Jul 24, 2004 at 11:59:56AM -0700:
> interesting, considering you used to put Hitler quotes in your
> .signature.
Hmmm afaik is gene roddenbery (do we spell him like this?) not hitler,
this comment just caused your future emails to /dev/null and maybe i'll
put some cat
On Sat, Jul 24, 2004 at 05:25:38PM +0200, Amaya wrote:
I'm surprised to see how shy the guys are regarding to posting pictures
of them along their comments :-)
Amazing; I was the only one willing to post my photo? Your attitude is
interesting, considering you used to put Hitler quotes in your
I guess after the bad taste in our mouths caused by me accidentally
inviting a vampire into our little home ;-) you girls (and supporting
boys) would want to see a little support from friendly Debian
Developers. I don't care about the supporters page anymore.
But I care about making up for the harr
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