On Monday 26 July 2004 8:13 am, Nori Heikkinen wrote: > on Mon, 26 Jul 2004 09:10:01AM -0400, Erinn Clark insinuated: > > * Helen Faulkner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004:07:25 23:41 +0100]: > > > 2) The comments by the debian developers on Amaya's site, in > > > answer to the questions, were interesting to me to read. They > > > represent a range of opinions and ideas. They may get other > > > people than me thinking about the issues involved, and that's a > > > good thing. > > > > Well, I agree with you here, but I still think that getting men > > involved is not our primary objective. Women involved seem to > > already know that there is a "problem". We've had more discussion > > about how to include men than we have about actually getting women > > active. This is indicative of .. something. They are not locking us > > out of their secret club and it is not up to us to persuade them to > > let us in.
It seems that way to me too. We don't need to apologize for wanting this group in the first place, and we don't need endorsements from a bunch of men that it's OK for D-W to exist. > > precisely what i was about to write -- you beat me to it, erinn. (hm, > maybe i should get to work earlier ...) > > for the record, i'm against having a supporters page -- it feels too > much like beating at the clubhouse door. our FAQ and mission > statement, and the fact that we exist and have all of our subscribers > as supporters, should be enough support. > > </nori> Agreed. The work D-W does, and the people who participate, will speak for itself. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Carla Schroder this message brought to you by Libranet 2.8 and Kmail ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~