Re: Welcome to DW (was: Re: DW (was: Re: [gnome-women] Getting a Web Site Up & Logo Contest status)

2005-08-15 Thread Herman Robak
On Mon, 15 Aug 2005 22:44:14 +0200, Jim Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If anything I believe we should use this exchange to only make evident the long waywe have to go to become more sensitive to each other's cultures so that we can trulywork together towards to true goal of worlddomination

Re: Welcome to DW (was: Re: DW (was: Re: [gnome-women] Getting a Web Site Up & Logo Contest status)

2005-08-15 Thread Jim Cook
While I realize I am probably about to step on a landmine and I wholeheartedly agree with Herman's concern about where and how this issue is escalating, but I would say that this issue is a rather huge misunderstanding. While I don't want to resort to cheap theatrics such as, "Can't we all just get

Re: Welcome to DW (was: Re: DW (was: Re: [gnome-women] Getting a Web Site Up & Logo Contest status)

2005-08-15 Thread || स्वक्ष || svaksha
On 8/16/05, Herman Robak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 15 Aug 2005 19:54:08 +0200, "|| स�वक�ष ""|| svaksha " > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Does that mean the following.. > > /quote: > > OK, well in my culture we prefer things to be dealt with head-on; the > > behavior you d

Re: Welcome to DW (was: Re: DW (was: Re: [gnome-women] Getting a Web Site Up & Logo Contest status)

2005-08-15 Thread Herman Robak
On Mon, 15 Aug 2005 19:54:08 +0200, "|| स�वक�ष ""|| svaksha " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Does that mean the following.. /quote: OK, well in my culture we prefer things to be dealt with head-on; the behavior you describe strikes me as being passive aggressive and manipulative. /unqu

Re: Welcome to DW (was: Re: DW (was: Re: [gnome-women] Getting a Web Site Up & Logo Contest status)

2005-08-15 Thread || स्वक्ष || svaksha
On 8/15/05, Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Aug 15, 2005 at 12:36:40PM +0600, || स्वक्ष || svaksha wrote: > > > Each and every one of us has a *real life* outside of FLOSS and other > > volunteerism and the only common thread stringing us together is the > > philosophical ideo

Re: Welcome to DW (was: Re: DW (was: Re: [gnome-women] Getting a Web Site Up & Logo Contest status)

2005-08-15 Thread Erinn Clark
* Clytie Siddall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005:08:15 17:37 +0930]: > I am sorry to hear you object to my Google group. Don't put words in my mouth. Not only did I never say that, I don't even think it. -- off the chain like a rebellious guanine nucleotide -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROT

Re: Welcome to DW (was: Re: DW (was: Re: [gnome-women] Getting a Web Site Up & Logo Contest status)

2005-08-15 Thread Herman Robak
On Mon, 15 Aug 2005 08:36:40 +0200, "|| स्वक्ष ""|| svaksha " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Unfortunately this thread has degenerated from "A list for D-W translators" to a cultural/behavioural issue which is certainly not a good precedent for DW or any other volunteer community in general. The

Re: Welcome to DW (was: Re: DW (was: Re: [gnome-women] Getting a Web Site Up & Logo Contest status)

2005-08-15 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Aug 15, 2005 at 12:36:40PM +0600, || स्वक्ष || svaksha wrote: > Each and every one of us has a *real life* outside of FLOSS and other > volunteerism and the only common thread stringing us together is the > philosophical ideology, good work and interest in FSF/GNU. I don't believe this i

Re: Welcome to DW (was: Re: DW (was: Re: [gnome-women] Getting a Web Site Up & Logo Contest status)

2005-08-15 Thread Clytie Siddall
On 15/08/2005, at 4:33 PM, Erinn Clark wrote (in conclusion): Clytie has done a great deal for DW in terms of translation efforts, and that has never gone unappreciated by me. Thankyou, Erinn, I appreciate that. It does help to hear things like this. I don't actually hold any ill will

Re: Welcome to DW (was: Re: DW (was: Re: [gnome-women] Getting a Web Site Up & Logo Contest status)

2005-08-15 Thread Erinn Clark
* || स्वक्ष || svaksha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005:08:15 12:36 +0600]: > On 8/15/05, Erinn Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > OK, well in my culture we prefer things to be dealt with head-on; the > > behavior you describe strikes me as being passive aggressive and > > manipulative. > > The above

Re: Welcome to DW (was: Re: DW (was: Re: [gnome-women] Getting a Web Site Up & Logo Contest status)

2005-08-14 Thread || स्वक्ष || svaksha
On 8/15/05, Erinn Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * Clytie Siddall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005:08:12 16:40 +0930]: > > > It's not culturally appropriate for me to approach things in a head- > > on way, but I will try to do so if it helps. (We do need to bear in > > mind that people from different

Re: Welcome to DW (was: Re: DW (was: Re: [gnome-women] Getting a Web Site Up & Logo Contest status)

2005-08-14 Thread Erinn Clark
* Clytie Siddall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005:08:12 16:40 +0930]: > I said, specifically (entire post, in response to Gnome Women queries > about getting started, website etc.): > > >One thing that doesn't work for D-W is that it has become a far too > >vehement site, where newbies and many wome

Planning (was: Re: DW (was: Re: [gnome-women] Getting a Web Site Up & Logo Contest status)

2005-08-12 Thread Clytie Siddall
On 13/08/2005, at 8:48 AM, Erinn Clark wrote: I mean, is this an issue of empowerment (or lack thereof)? I have no idea how to empower someone who's afraid to take the first step except to tell them not to be afraid. I don't even know how many people are listening. Encouraging people is usefu

Focus people (was: Re: DW (was: Re: [gnome-women] Getting a Web Site Up & Logo Contest status)

2005-08-12 Thread Clytie Siddall
नमस्ते स्वक्ष !! :) (Hello svashka), good to see you posting here again. Thankyou very much for your appreciation. :) You've made some very useful points. It really helps to have different points of view, different ways of saying things. Thankyou. :) On 12/08/2005, at 10:49 PM, || स्वक्ष

Re: DW (was: Re: [gnome-women] Getting a Web Site Up & Logo Contest status)

2005-08-12 Thread Erinn Clark
* || स्वक्ष || svaksha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005:08:12 19:19 +0600]: > On 8/11/05, Erinn Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > So I'm wondering: how do we encourage people who have not expressed an > > opinion? Is it really safe to cater to people we don't know rather than > > For starters,

Re: DW (was: Re: [gnome-women] Getting a Web Site Up & Logo Contest status)

2005-08-12 Thread || स्वक्ष || svaksha
Hello All ! I have been following this and other threads for some time and at the outset, kudos to Clytie for taking the time and energy to explain what she believes in. On 8/11/05, Erinn Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > So I'm wondering: how do we encourage people who have not expressed an

Welcome to DW (was: Re: DW (was: Re: [gnome-women] Getting a Web Site Up & Logo Contest status)

2005-08-12 Thread Clytie Siddall
I'll try to answer this. I do find long posts difficult to understand, so please allow for confusion. On 12/08/2005, at 12:10 AM, Erinn Clark wrote: Well, one thing you fail to recognize is that there is a difficult balance to maintain. No, I do realize that. That's why I joined in the dis

Re: DW (was: Re: [gnome-women] Getting a Web Site Up & Logo Contest status)

2005-08-11 Thread Erinn Clark
* Clytie Siddall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005:08:11 15:45 +0930]: > On 10/08/2005, at 10:25 AM, Erinn Clark wrote: > > >Well, one thing you fail to recognize is that there is a difficult > >balance to maintain. > > No, I do realize that. That's why I joined in the discussion on gnome- > women (of

Re: DW (was: Re: [gnome-women] Getting a Web Site Up & Logo Contest status)

2005-08-10 Thread Clytie Siddall
This has split from a discussion on Gnome-Women on future aims for that group. In discussing that there, I'd said there were some things that were working for D-W, and some things that weren't. There was no intention to insult anyone. (I don't even know how, for heaven's sake. I'm harmless!