> >> As far as I understand, we're all defining our position 2nd hand on
> >> Bas' analysis.
And given the responses, my analysis obviously needs some explanation.
This game is technically very well done. It is a visual novel, which
like a regular novel is intended to make the reader/player thin
Tobias Hansen writes:
> Am 11.03.2014 17:54, schrieb Miriam Ruiz:
>> Right now there is no need to make any decision at all, it is
>> in the hands of the FTP Masters, and we as a project trust them.
>
> As far as I am aware there is not even the need for the FTP masters to
> decide because there
Jo Shields writes:
>> I honestly believe that almost none of those of us discusing the game
>> has even tried it (I haven't at least) and I don't think anyone who
>> hasn't even tested it can have a solid opinion. As far as I
>> understand, we're all defining our position 2nd hand on Bas' analysi
2014-03-11 23:34 GMT+01:00 Jo Shields :
>> I honestly believe that almost none of those of us discusing the game
>> has even tried it (I haven't at least) and I don't think anyone who
>> hasn't even tested it can have a solid opinion. As far as I
>> understand, we're all defining our position 2nd h
> I honestly believe that almost none of those of us discusing the game
> has even tried it (I haven't at least) and I don't think anyone who
> hasn't even tested it can have a solid opinion. As far as I
> understand, we're all defining our position 2nd hand on Bas' analysis.
Let's be very, very,
2014-03-11 22:23 GMT+01:00 Sam Kuper :
> Now that this conversation has descended into farce, I'm out. I only
> hope that if the issue does cease to become moot[1] and Debian decides
> to reject Unteralterbach (which, to repeat, I have no opinion about)
> the project will not do so in a way that w
On 11/03/14 22:23, Sam Kuper wrote:
> On 11/03/2014, Daniel Pocock wrote:
>> Many people wouldn't want to touch this with a ten foot pole. The
>> consequences of even showing sympathy for this type of package could
>> well have personal consequences for some people well into the future,
>> here
On 11/03/2014, Daniel Pocock wrote:
> Many people wouldn't want to touch this with a ten foot pole. The
> consequences of even showing sympathy for this type of package could
> well have personal consequences for some people well into the future,
> here is a typical example:
>
> http://www.bbc.co
To save people wasting time on this
Debian is a volunteer effort
Each DD can contribute what they want
On the inclusion of packages like this, I suspect some DDs would find
the only thing left to contribute is their resignations.
Many people wouldn't want to touch this with a ten foot pole. T
On 11/03/2014, Thibaut Paumard wrote:
> Le 11/03/2014 20:10, Sam Kuper a écrit :
>> My point was that if legal (in some jurisdictions) and literary
>> discussions of abuse are completely excluded from Debian, then an act
>> of censorship has been performed, which may itself be viewed as a real
>>
Le 11/03/2014 20:10, Sam Kuper a écrit :
> My point was that if legal (in some jurisdictions) and literary
> discussions of abuse are completely excluded from Debian, then an act
> of censorship has been performed, which may itself be viewed as a real
> - though different - harm.
No.
Deciding to
2014-03-11 19:40 GMT+01:00 Tobias Hansen :
> Am 11.03.2014 17:54, schrieb Miriam Ruiz:
>> Right now there is no need to make any decision at all, it is
>> in the hands of the FTP Masters, and we as a project trust them.
>
> As far as I am aware there is not even the need for the FTP masters to
> de
Am 11.03.2014 17:54, schrieb Miriam Ruiz:
> Right now there is no need to make any decision at all, it is
> in the hands of the FTP Masters, and we as a project trust them.
As far as I am aware there is not even the need for the FTP masters to
decide because there is no Debian developer who is con
On 11/03/2014, Mateusz Jończyk wrote:
> W dniu 11.03.2014 15:52, Sam Kuper pisze:
>> On 11/03/2014, Joseph Neal wrote:
> According to statistics [2]
> "One in 20 children (4.8%) have experienced contact sexual abuse." This has
> probably a devastating effect on their lives.
That is very likely t
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W dniu 11.03.2014 15:52, Sam Kuper pisze:
> On 11/03/2014, Joseph Neal wrote:
>> I hate to stir up shit, but that's exactly what I'm doing.
>
> If you hate to do it, then please don't do it.
>
>> Several people have already objected but I hope there
2014-03-11 17:39 GMT+01:00 Mateusz Jończyk :
>> There is a danger, if the Debian project falls prey to a moral panic, that it
>> will self-censor to the extent of producing a chilling effect upon itself.
>
> This is not a "moral panic". A real harm is being done.
> According to statistics [2]
> "O
On 11/03/2014, Joseph Neal wrote:
> I hate to stir up shit, but that's exactly what I'm doing.
If you hate to do it, then please don't do it.
> Several people have already objected but I hope there will be such a
> resounding rejection that nobody considers submitting something like
> this again
2014-03-11 15:05 GMT+01:00 Daniel Pocock :
> Is this within the scope of the FTP teams duties or should the FTP team
> focus solely on the licensing/copyright adherence or does the FTP team
> also screen things for more general compliance purposes? I would feel
> that the latter would be a much b
On 11/03/14 14:55, Paul Tagliamonte wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 01:47:22AM -0500, Joseph Neal wrote:
>> Hey, all
>>
>> I hate to stir up shit, but that's exactly what I'm doing.
> :(
>
> The tone on that thread has been really respectful up until now; if
> anyone does want to voice concern, pl
2014-03-11 14:55 GMT+01:00 Paul Tagliamonte :
> The tone on that thread has been really respectful up until now; if
> anyone does want to voice concern, please do maintain a very polite
> tone. This is way too easy to get upset about (also, trigger warning on
> the game and game description, it's
On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 01:47:22AM -0500, Joseph Neal wrote:
> Hey, all
>
> I hate to stir up shit, but that's exactly what I'm doing.
:(
The tone on that thread has been really respectful up until now; if
anyone does want to voice concern, please do maintain a very polite
tone. This is way too
Hey, all
I hate to stir up shit, but that's exactly what I'm doing.
Several people have already objected but I hope there will be such a
resounding rejection that nobody considers submitting something like
this again in the future. I am not a member of the Debian Project. It
is my hope that enou
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