2014-03-11 17:39 GMT+01:00 Mateusz Jończyk <mat.jonc...@o2.pl>: >> There is a danger, if the Debian project falls prey to a moral panic, that it >> will self-censor to the extent of producing a chilling effect upon itself. > > This is not a "moral panic". A real harm is being done. > According to statistics [2] > "One in 20 children (4.8%) have experienced contact sexual abuse." This has > probably a devastating effect on their lives.
We should probably make an effort to keep this discussion civil, not only to set an example for other flames in the whole project, but also because this is the kind of discussion that can easily get out of hands. Right now there is no need to make any decision at all, it is in the hands of the FTP Masters, and we as a project trust them. Please, before giving any opinion, one way or the other, I'd suggest to be as calm as possible and re-read twice. We don't want to start a flame, and we don't want the noise. > A sane person tries to judge morally their actions, which often includes > predicting > their consequences. It has been mentioned here already and I find it likely > that > the game may trigger some people sick of paedophilia and more harm may be > done. Whenever I have used the word triggering in my mails, has been right for the opposite reason. I meant triggering the victims. We certainly don't want to cause any emotional breakdown to anyone, so I suggest we treat this topic calmly and as non-emotional as possible. When I mean triggering the victims, I mean triggering PSTD [1] [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posttraumatic_stress_disorder I honestly don't think that the game can make anyone behave in a way they wouldn't if they haven't played. The same way that violent people are not so because they play violent games. I haven't played the game myself, and I probably couldn't even if I had curiosioty enough to try, but most than anything, in that regards, I would be concerned about whether there is an implicit or explicit apology of stuff. That would certainly be illegal almost everywhere and, most of all, none of us would want it in Debian. To make it clear once and again, what I'm concerned about is the victims. > As has been mentioned previously [3], including this will have a devastating > effect > on Debian. > > Unfortunately we don't have debian-children so that we may forward it to that > list. This should probably belong more to debian-parents. Having a debian-children group has been among my TODO ideas for the future, but even if it currently existed, they would be the last I would want to forward this to. Hugs, Miry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-women-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CAFotxVNG-kO_9h-JkT9+bMaVBVSC9ugxNixS_9UNkPGZwTX=m...@mail.gmail.com