Re: D-W web site part of the general Debian WWW infrastructure? (was: Re: translation to French)

2005-03-06 Thread Jutta Wrage
Am Sonntag, 06.03.05 um 09:19 Uhr schrieb Christian Perrier: I have no deep technical advice except that I'm pretty sure that the d-w site would benefit the general infrastructure in some matter. The real location should probably be discussed with the debian-www mailing list contributors as well as

DW Wiki translations, Was: translation to French

2005-03-06 Thread Jutta Wrage
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Samstag, 05.03.05 um 13:53 Uhr schrieb Erinn Clark: Nah, definitely not. I think currently there is an issue with getting some stuff properly translated because all we have is HTML stuff instead of proper sources. The wiki was supposed to be a worki

DW Wiki translations, Was: translation to French

2005-03-06 Thread Jutta Wrage
Second try without gnupg sig Am Samstag, 05.03.05 um 13:53 Uhr schrieb Erinn Clark: Nah, definitely not. I think currently there is an issue with getting some stuff properly translated because all we have is HTML stuff instead of proper sources. The wiki was supposed to be a working area. Things r

ToDo list

2005-03-06 Thread Miriam Ruiz
http://debianwomen.org/involvement/todo.php is supposed to have a to do list for what's needed for the project. When a new person joins the project, usually looks there to see how they can help. Looking at it now, as a friend told me, it seems that there's really nothing to do. Even though they ar

Re: How do women become involved in free / open source projects?

2005-03-06 Thread Magni Onsoien
On 2005-02-26 19:32:56 +0100, Jutta Wrage said: [ Heavy snipping. ] > I still feel no need to be a DD for > that. And that may be the difference to many of the men: Being DD and > technical things are more in the center than the project itself for > many of them. Seems to be very important to

Re: Article on women and mathematics

2005-03-06 Thread Hanna M. Wallach
> In fact, someone told me once that the diversity among > women and among men is considerably bigger than those > between the mathematical mean between those groups. This is entirely true. (And can be seen nicely in Simon Baron-Cohen's research.) -- hanna m. wallach blog: http://join-the-dots.o

Re: Article on women and mathematics

2005-03-06 Thread Miriam Ruiz
--- Amaya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am sorry to strongly disagree here... I am not > grounding my opinion on > any scientific evidence at all, but I usually > perceive that studies that > come up with that kind of physical "differences" > (hormone levels, for > example) and other theories (as

Re: Article on women and mathematics

2005-03-06 Thread Amaya
Miriam Ruiz wrote: > After reading a bit more about that topic on the internet, I must > admit that I might be wrong, and maybe sexual hormones do in fact > affect intelectual habilities. I'm not totally convinced of that yet, > but as there's such amount of people supporting that opinion there > m

Re: D-W web site part of the general Debian WWW infrastructure? (was: Re: translation to French)

2005-03-06 Thread David Moreno Garza
On Sun, 2005-03-06 at 12:01 +0100, Luk Claes wrote: > Well, anyone with CVS access to the website would be able to change > things. If someone changes something that is clearly not acceptable, I'm > sure he will loose his/her CVS access, though. Sure thing, but you cannot make such decisions witho

Re: Article on women and mathematics

2005-03-06 Thread Miriam Ruiz
> I mean that i don't agree at all with what is said > about the effect of hormones over an already-formed > brain (i'm not talking about growth and development, > obviously hormones do affect the development of the > brain in the fetus). > > It doesnt give more data about that study, like the > n

Re: My trip to FOSDEM 2005

2005-03-06 Thread Brenda J. Butler
On Sun, Mar 06, 2005 at 03:53:01PM +0100, Magni Onsoien wrote: > On 2005-03-06 04:19:46 -0500, Erinn Clark said: > > I do notice a commonality among a lot of people, though, which is that, > > regardless of sex, they think they have nothing to talk about. This is > > certainly true in some cases, b

Re: My trip to FOSDEM 2005

2005-03-06 Thread Hanna M. Wallach
> Yes, we want t-shirts. Currently, besides getting the design -- which > should be fairly trivial -- there's the matter of how to get them. There > are online shops like cafepress and zazzle which will do them, but > cafepress isn't very high quality and ideally we'd have something screen > printe

Re: Article on women and mathematics

2005-03-06 Thread Miriam Ruiz
--- "Hanna M. Wallach" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Miry, > > > The article is quite interesting, but this quote, > > afaik, is nonsense: > [...] > > I'm not sure whether you mean that the person quoted > never said that, > or whether you mean that their research is unsound > -- can you > dis

Re: Article on women and mathematics

2005-03-06 Thread Hanna M. Wallach
Hi Miry, > The article is quite interesting, but this quote, > afaik, is nonsense: [...] I'm not sure whether you mean that the person quoted never said that, or whether you mean that their research is unsound -- can you disambiguate? :-) -- hanna m. wallach blog: http://join-the-dots.org/ work

Re: Article on women and mathematics

2005-03-06 Thread Magni Onsoien
On 2005-03-06 16:27:38 +0100, Miriam Ruiz said: > > --- "Hanna M. Wallach" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Just read this article -- > > http://chronicle.com/free/v51/i26/26a00102.htm > > (found out about it via > > another women in computing mailing list) -- thought > > it might be of > > interest

Re: Article on women and mathematics

2005-03-06 Thread Miriam Ruiz
--- "Hanna M. Wallach" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just read this article -- > http://chronicle.com/free/v51/i26/26a00102.htm > (found out about it via > another women in computing mailing list) -- thought > it might be of > interest here too. The article is quite interesting, but this quote, af

Re: My trip to FOSDEM 2005

2005-03-06 Thread Magni Onsoien
On 2005-03-06 04:19:46 -0500, Erinn Clark said: > > I soon found Hanna Wallach (I was cheating and had looked at a picture > > before I left) and we spent a lot of time walking around talking to > > people. > > Eh, no DW keysigning party?! Well, almost. I am not that used to keysigning parties,

Re: My trip to FOSDEM 2005

2005-03-06 Thread Ulf Härnhammar
Quoting Magni Onsoien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > My pictures from FOSDEM are at http://www.geekhouse.no/Gallery/fosdem2005/ You found the Belgian chocolateries as well, I see.. :-) > On Sunday I went to Hanna's talk at 11:30. It was a very good talk (and I > immediately fell in love with her nice sl

Re: Women in science: Univ. of Helsinki numbers

2005-03-06 Thread Hanna M. Wallach
> The CS row says there are 2351 people studying for MSc, out of which 457 > are women. No statistics exist about people aiming at a BSc (since > officially everyone is aiming at MSc), and also nothing about > post-graduation students specifically about CS. Thanks so much for translating that page

Re: Article on women and mathematics

2005-03-06 Thread Erinn Clark
* Hanna M. Wallach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005:03:06 11:24 +]: > Just read this article -- > http://chronicle.com/free/v51/i26/26a00102.htm (found out about it via > another women in computing mailing list) -- thought it might be of > interest here too. This quote is great: "I no longer ask

Article on women and mathematics

2005-03-06 Thread Hanna M. Wallach
Just read this article -- http://chronicle.com/free/v51/i26/26a00102.htm (found out about it via another women in computing mailing list) -- thought it might be of interest here too. -- hanna m. wallach blog: http://join-the-dots.org/ work: http://www.inference.phy.cam.ac.uk/hmw26/ -- To UNSUB

Re: D-W web site part of the general Debian WWW infrastructure? (was: Re: translation to French)

2005-03-06 Thread Luk Claes
On Sun, 6 Mar 2005, Erinn Clark wrote: > * Christian Perrier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005:03:06 09:19 +0100]: [...] > > The real location should probably be discussed with the debian-www > > mailing list contributors as well as other technical implications. I'm > > pretty sure you'll find there very

Re: translation to French

2005-03-06 Thread Luk Claes
On Sat, 5 Mar 2005, Erinn Clark wrote: > * Christian Perrier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005:03:05 22:58 +0100]: > > During this discussion, Pierre Machard asked why d-w web pages are not > > handled on the Debian 'main" site. > > Well, there isn't really any particular reason; when the project began we

Re: How do women become involved in free / open source projects?

2005-03-06 Thread Erinn Clark
* Bruce Byfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005:02:22 10:51 -0800]: > Helen's Faulkner's comment that "women follow a different route to being > interested in things like Debian and FOSS compared to the average man" > has made me curious. I'm not so sure the route is *that* different. In many cases,

Re: D-W web site part of the general Debian WWW infrastructure? (was: Re: translation to French)

2005-03-06 Thread Erinn Clark
* Christian Perrier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005:03:06 09:19 +0100]: > I have no deep technical advice except that I'm pretty sure that the > d-w site would benefit the general infrastructure in some matter. Yes, I agree. > The real location should probably be discussed with the debian-www > mailin

Re: My trip to FOSDEM 2005

2005-03-06 Thread Erinn Clark
* Magni Onsoien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005:03:03 23:53 +0100]: > [ Due to lists.debian.org's spamfilter's discrimination policy against > women my first two attempts didn't make it through. It's apparently the > first time the filter makes such bad behaviour, so maybe it can be > forgiven. Maybe

D-W web site part of the general Debian WWW infrastructure? (was: Re: translation to French)

2005-03-06 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Erinn Clark ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > So, even if this appears a bit too early, don't forget to consider > > making the d-w web site part of the official Debian web site. > > It's been considered, but it's not clear how to go about doing this. I'm > also not sure if it would be supported,