Norman Petry and I (Ossipoff) recommended CSSD, but Schwartz Woodall is a better voting system for Debian

2013-05-08 Thread Michael Ossipoff
Hi-- My name is Michael Ossipoff. I and Norman Petry, some years ago, recommended, to Debian, a voting system called Cloneproof Schwartz Sequential Dropping (CSSD).. That voting system is also sometimes referred to as "Beatpath", because of equivalent definition in terms of beatpath

Correcion of a typo in my chicken dilemma example 1.

2013-05-08 Thread Michael Ossipoff
The A voters rank sincerely, and the B voters defect: 99: A>B 2: B 100: C Michael Ossipoff -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-vote-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caokdy5b5svyhbji-eygp7-j9u53rotfpukfts6vwifud73-...@mail.gmail.com

Re: Norman Petry and I (Ossipoff) recommended CSSD, but Schwartz Woodall is a better voting system for Debian

2013-05-09 Thread Michael Ossipoff
On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 8:14 AM, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > On Wed, May 08, 2013 at 10:28:26AM -0400, Michael Ossipoff wrote: >> >> 2 defecting B voters have stolen the election from 99 co-operative A voters. >> >> >> >> Here's

Re: Norman Petry and I (Ossipoff) recommended CSSD, but Schwartz Woodall is a better voting system for Debian

2013-05-10 Thread Michael Ossipoff
On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 4:30 PM, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > On Wed, May 08, 2013 at 10:28:26AM -0400, Michael Ossipoff wrote: >> >> Below, I'll show examples of what can happen, but first I'll just >> verbally summarize what can happen: First of all, of course A is the &

Re: Norman Petry and I (Ossipoff) recommended CSSD, but Schwartz Woodall is a better voting system for Debian

2013-05-11 Thread Michael Ossipoff
Quoted below, I'd suggested holding a 2nd Up/Down ratification vote on the winner of an election between several mutually-competting proposals to amend the consititution, and requireing it to get 3 time more Yes votes than No votes in that 2nd vote, the Yes/No ratification vote. It occurs to me th

Re: Norman Petry and I (Ossipoff) recommended CSSD, but Schwartz Woodall is a better voting system for Debian

2013-05-14 Thread Michael Ossipoff
Mutual Majority Criterion, no chicken dilemma, and the Condorcet Criterion would make it the a good choice (the best choice, I claim) for organizational voting. Of course obviously, if Debian doesn't have a chicken dilemma, there's no need for Debian to change its voting system fr

My cycle definitionof Schwartz set is incorrect.

2013-05-14 Thread Michael Ossipoff
definition of Schwartz set: There is a beatpath from X to Y if X beats Y, or if X beats A and there is a beatpath from A to Y. If there is a beatpath from Y to X, but not from X to Y, then X is not in the Schwartz set. Otherwise X is in the Schwartz set. [end of beatpath definition of the Schwa

Re: Norman Petry and I (Ossipoff) recommended CSSD, but Schwartz Woodall is a better voting system for Debian

2013-05-15 Thread Michael Ossipoff
stitution, the cost > of changing it is high; the burden of proof when arguing for a change is > therefore high as well. Quite so. And I fully accept and understand that Debian doesn't have a chicken dilemma, and that changing the Debian voting system would probably be a project that would

Re: Norman Petry and I (Ossipoff) recommended CSSD, but Schwartz Woodall is a better voting system for Debian

2013-05-15 Thread Michael Ossipoff
On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 8:01 PM, Steve Langasek wrote: > (With apologies to the non-Americans on -vote... :) > > On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 11:56:49AM -0400, Michael Ossipoff wrote: >> One reason why I've been advocating Schwartz Woodal (along with >> Woodall and Benha

Re: Norman Petry and I (Ossipoff) recommended CSSD, but Schwartz Woodall is a better voting system for Debian

2013-05-16 Thread Michael Ossipoff
I'd like to correct a typo: I referred to a voting system that I called "Sequential ICT" But that wasn't what I meant. I meant "Symmetrical ICT" Symmetrical ICT is defined at electowiki. Michael Ossipoff -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-vote-requ...@list

Re: Norman Petry and I (Ossipoff) recommended CSSD, but Schwartz Woodall is a better voting system for Debian

2013-05-19 Thread Michael Ossipoff
ho have replied to me here. Michael Ossipoff -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-vote-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAOKDY5CHDn5MKjqK1yA0mHXyZAzpR7FmPQ7os8txHf53rZT=v...@mail.gmail.com