Re: Proposal: General Resolution on Init Systems and systemd Facilities

2019-11-14 Thread Brian Gupta
On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 7:09 PM Russ Allbery wrote: > Sam Hartman writes: > > > I'd like to propose the following resolution. > > > Seconds are not required, but it would be valuable to get confirmation > > that the three choices contained in this proposal are worth having on > > the ballot. So

Re: Proposal: General Resolution on Init Systems and systemd Facilities

2019-11-14 Thread Brian Gupta
On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 9:13 PM Russ Allbery wrote: > Brian Gupta writes: > > > I would like to see an additional option to leave current policy > > unchanged. Obviously if I am alone in wanting this option, please > > disregardt. > > What does that mean to y

Re: Draft text on Init Systems GR

2019-11-14 Thread Brian Gupta
On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 7:51 PM Dmitry Bogatov wrote: > > [2019-11-14 17:15] Ian Jackson > > Dmitry Bogatov writes ("Draft text on Init Systems GR"): > > > Choice 1: Affirm Init Diversity > > > > > > Being able to run Debian systems with init systems other than > > > systemd continue

Re: Draft text on Init Systems GR

2019-11-19 Thread Brian Gupta
On Sun, Nov 17, 2019 at 12:00 PM Bastian Blank wrote: > Hi Brian > > On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 01:10:58AM -0500, Brian Gupta wrote: > > Do you think it's ok in any case to remove init scripts. Let's say an > > upstream stops maintaining init scripts, > > I

Re: Proposal: Init Diversity

2019-11-20 Thread Brian Gupta
On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 7:41 AM Ian Jackson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > (Kurt, you can skip to "FAO KURT".) > > Dmitry Bogatov writes ("Proposal: Init Diversity"): > > Here I formally propose following option, withdrawing any previous > > versions. > ... > >

Re: Proposal: Init Diversity

2019-11-20 Thread Brian Gupta
On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 7:11 PM Dmitry Bogatov wrote: > > Here I formally propose new version of my draft, and withdraw all > previous versions of it. > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > Being able to run Debian systems with init systems other than > systemd continues to be

Re: Proposal: Init Diversity

2019-11-21 Thread Brian Gupta
On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 9:02 AM Kurt Roeckx wrote: > On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 11:10:13PM -0500, Brian Gupta wrote: > > > > Please consider the above version, and all future variants that contain > > nothing > > but grammar/wording changes, seconded by me. (As opp

Re: Proposal: Init Diversity

2019-11-21 Thread Brian Gupta
On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 1:33 PM Kurt Roeckx wrote: > On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 12:49:47PM -0500, Brian Gupta wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 9:02 AM Kurt Roeckx wrote: > > > > > On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 11:10:13PM -0500, Brian Gupta wrote: > > > > > >

Re: Opposite of a Platform for DPL 2020

2020-03-06 Thread Brian Gupta
On Wed, Mar 4, 2020 at 2:32 PM Sam Hartman wrote: > > TL;DR: Overall, being DPL has been incredibly rewarding. I have > enjoyed working with you all, and have enjoyed the opportunity to > contribute to the Debian Project. I hope to be DPL again some year, > but 2020 is the wrong year for me and

Self-nomination, on a platform to create a Debian Foundation

2020-03-13 Thread Brian Gupta
Hi, I'm Brian Gupta, found online as bgupta. I am running for DPL with a singular goal. The creation of Debian US and EU Foundations. I largely view my candidacy as a referendum on this goal and its details. During the campaigning period, I will share the details as part of my platform,

Re: Question to Brian: Why do you need to be DPL to set up foundations?

2020-03-16 Thread Brian Gupta
On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 05:53:08PM -0400, Sam Hartman wrote: > > > Dear Brian: > > I've just read your platform. > For reasons that are slightly different than the ones you state, I tend > to agree that setting up foundations sounds like a good idea. > And I think you have a significant chunk o

Re: Costs of running a Debian foundation

2020-03-17 Thread Brian Gupta
On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 8:20 AM Martin Michlmayr wrote: > > [ I wasn't sure whether to comment on Brian's platform or stay out of > this, but I think it's important to scrutinise the plan. Please see > my disclaimers at the end though. ] Thank you Martin. You have a great amount of relevant expe

Re: Question to all: Outreach

2020-03-17 Thread Brian Gupta
On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 12:32 PM Hector Oron wrote: > > Hello, > > First of all, thanks for nominating yourselves to Debian project leaders. > > Debian Outreach looks like an awesome initiative to bring new blood > into Debian and also people coming from minority groups, however, on > the othe

Re: Question to Brian: why not submit your plan for a Debian Foundation to a GR ?

2020-03-17 Thread Brian Gupta
On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 12:52 PM Louis-Philippe Véronneau wrote: > > Hi Brian, > > The idea of having a Debian Foundation sounds interesting, although I do > share some of tbm's fears. > > From what I understand, you want this DPL election to be a referendum on > the idea of a Debian Foundation.

Re: Costs of running a Debian foundation

2020-03-17 Thread Brian Gupta
On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 1:37 AM Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 12:46:09PM +0800, Martin Michlmayr wrote: > > So I'm more satisfied with the rationale of creating a Debian > > foundation, although my concerns about the actual operations still > > apply (i.e. how are you going

Re: What are your thoughts on discourse?

2020-03-18 Thread Brian Gupta
On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 6:01 AM Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > Hello dear DPL candidates, > > I would like all the candidates to reply to this question on discourse: > https://discourse.debian.net/t/dear-dpl-candidates-what-are-your-thoughts-on-discourse/75 > > Please create an account and answer ther

Re: Question to Brian: why not submit your plan for a Debian Foundation to a GR ?

2020-03-18 Thread Brian Gupta
On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 4:30 PM Neil McGovern wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 12:57:55AM +0800, Martin Michlmayr wrote: > > * Louis-Philippe Véronneau [2020-03-18 12:52]: > > > Would you care to elaborate on what "the Yorba determination" is? I > > > couldn't find anything online about this.

Re: Question for all candidates: Sam's non-platform: Delegates

2020-03-18 Thread Brian Gupta
On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 1:35 PM Sean Whitton wrote: > > Hello, > > In his non-platform, Sam wrote > > If I were running as DPL, figuring out how to do a better job of > managing delegations, respecting both the current delegates and the > needs of the project, would be my priority for

Re: Question to Brian: why not submit your plan for a Debian Foundation to a GR ?

2020-03-18 Thread Brian Gupta
On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 6:55 PM Scott Kitterman wrote: > > On Wednesday, March 18, 2020 6:41:42 PM EDT Brian Gupta wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 4:30 PM Neil McGovern wrote: > > > On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 12:57:55AM +0800, Martin Michlmayr wrote: > > > > * L

Re: Question to Brian: Why do you need to be DPL to set up foundations?

2020-03-19 Thread Brian Gupta
On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 9:43 AM Thomas Goirand wrote: > On 3/17/20 4:10 AM, Brian Gupta wrote: > > 1) By making it my platform, it should be a much lighter-weight method > >for people to express their opinions than a GR. If this proves > >contentious, I can always

Re: Question to all: Outreach

2020-03-19 Thread Brian Gupta
On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 8:12 PM Paul Wise wrote: > On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 3:30 PM Jonathan Carter wrote: > > > ... > > Thanks for the info, those details are interesting. > > > Non-uploading DD's existed at the time, I just had no interest in > > becoming a non-uploading DD when it was already m

Re: Question to Brian: Why multiple foundations?

2020-03-20 Thread Brian Gupta
On Fri, Mar 20, 2020 at 5:09 AM Christian Kastner wrote: > > Brian, > > I very much support your plan to establish a Debian foundation. Looking > back over even just the last few months, I saw numerous challenges that > would have greatly simplified if there were a legal entity representing > the

Re: Question to Brian: Why do you need to be DPL to set up foundations?

2020-03-20 Thread Brian Gupta
On Fri, Mar 20, 2020 at 7:45 AM Steve McIntyre wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 20, 2020 at 09:41:33AM +0100, Enrico Zini wrote: > > > >As an example of a voting options that I am considering ad that does not > >fit with your proposals above, I would very likely vote for you above > >NOTA for a pure DPL ele

Response to jcc's rebuttal

2020-03-24 Thread Brian Gupta
I certainly don’t think it will be possible to create both Foundations in one term, and it may not be possible to even finish creating the US Foundation in one DPL term, but a lot of progress can be made. In my platform, I estimated 6-12 months, but there are things that are out of our control. The

Re: Question to Brian: Why do you need to be DPL to set up foundations?

2020-03-25 Thread Brian Gupta
On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 02:10:00PM +0100, Margarita Manterola wrote: > Hi, > > On Fri, Mar 20, 2020 at 11:47 PM Brian Gupta > wrote: > > > On Fri, Mar 20, 2020 at 7:45 AM Steve McIntyre wrote: > > > On Fri, Mar 20, 2020 at 09:41:33AM +0100, Enrico Zini wrote: &g

Re: Q to all candidates: NEW queue

2020-03-26 Thread Brian Gupta
On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 3:34 AM Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > > Hi, > > For as long as I can remember, there has been complaints about the > delays caused by NEW processing (and > https://ftp-master.debian.org/stat.html shows that we constantly have > 250-300 packages waiting to be processed). > > Wha

Re: Question to Jonathan & Brian: Diversity in Debian

2020-03-30 Thread Brian Gupta
On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 2:39 PM Sruthi Chandran wrote: > > Hello Jonathan and Brian, > > I have a couple of questions for both of you. > > - What are your thoughts on diversity in Debian? Debian has evolved a great deal over the past 20+ years to the point that we now have a commitment to diver

All DPL candidates: DPL Term lengths and limits?

2014-03-27 Thread Brian Gupta
I know this has been raised in elections past, but any thoughts on the current one-year DPL terms, and unlimited terms allowed? If thoughts are geared toward change do you have any plans to actively try to change the status quo? I ask because it seems that a lot of energy is devoted to the electio

Re: Maximum term for tech ctte members

2014-11-03 Thread Brian Gupta
On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 9:16 PM, Sam Hartman wrote: >> "Don" == Don Armstrong writes: > > >> Personally, I agree that having multiple active discussion/second > >> periods on debian-vote is problematic. > > Don> Right; that's what we seemed to agree on as well. > > Don> I think