* Sam Hartman [2021-04-08 08:33]:
i think it's very presumptuous to assume anything about what someone
should have voted because all those combinations are reasonable.
And if anyone is really losing sleep over that question, they can still
ask those ten voters if they intended to vote for syst
Le vendredi 09 avril 2021 à 10:08:07+0900, Norbert Preining a écrit :
> > Please let this thread go extinct.
>
> Isn't it easy to try to make a thread go extinct when the perpetrator is
> on "your side", while writing again and again when it is the other way
> round. Very impressed by your "fairne
Hi,
On 09.04.21 03:08, Norbert Preining wrote:
Please let this thread go extinct.
Isn't it easy to try to make a thread go extinct when the perpetrator is
on "your side", while writing again and again when it is the other way
round. Very impressed by your "fairness" and "inclusiveness".
I'm
Hi all
I have changed the constitution files in the website repo to match the
updated text currently now in doc-debian package:
https://salsa.debian.org/webmaster-team/webwml/-/commit/e3d525d9f092f9014e00417cc847900ac5a99649
The fix will be available online after the next build.
I didn't close
On another list, there was discussion of the DPL encouraging the
secretary to make the vote on the rms GR secret.
I'll let the DPL speak for his own position.
A bit of background.
There has been increasing harassment of people based on what they are
expected to vote on the rms gr.
People on bot
On Fri, Apr 09, 2021 at 01:12:26PM -0400, Sam Hartman wrote:
>
> On another list, there was discussion of the DPL encouraging the
> secretary to make the vote on the rms GR secret.
If we're going to go this way, I would really like to make this
change soon. Based on the outcome of this, people mi
Hi Laura,
Last uploader of doc-debian here.
On Fri, Apr 09, 2021 at 06:45:47PM +0200, Laura Arjona Reina wrote:
>
> I have changed the constitution files in the website repo to match the
> updated text currently now in doc-debian package:
>
> https://salsa.debian.org/webmaster-team/webwml/-/com
On Fri, Apr 09, 2021 at 01:12:26PM -0400, Sam Hartman wrote:
> On another list, there was discussion of the DPL encouraging the
> secretary to make the vote on the rms GR secret.
I'm not sure this is not leaking.
> I argued on another list that[...]
> Several people agreed with me, ande one pers
Sam Hartman writes:
> Thanks for doing this. I'm actually very comfortable for us to make the
> decision under 5.1(3). We cleraly cannot hold a GR in time to change
> the constitution prior to the election ending. And our constitution
> already has a provision for making decisions where a time
On Fri, Apr 09, 2021 at 10:59:16AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
>
> * A secret ballot, while contrary to the constitution for GRs, is not
> wholly irregular for the project. We use one every year for the DPL
> election and the tradeoffs are well-understood. This vote poses an
> additional ch
Everyone:
As we've seen many times in the last 25 years or so: Contentious discussions
are easy to start and hard to stop.
Online arguments are hard to contain. It is very easy indeed to upset somebody
- to push their buttons - so that they either crumple and fold up or react
angrily and instinc
On Fri, Apr 09, 2021 at 05:55:48PM +, Holger Levsen wrote:
> That said, I think it's a *very* bad idea to change the vote procedure
> during an ongoing vote. Really *bad* idea and precedence. Double more
> so on a vote with shortened discussion period.
>
> (plus secret voting is a *really real
Hi!
On 09.04.21 20:08, Kurt Roeckx wrote:
On Fri, Apr 09, 2021 at 10:59:16AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
* A secret ballot, while contrary to the constitution for GRs, is not
wholly irregular for the project. We use one every year for the DPL
election and the tradeoffs are well-understoo
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