Re: Amendment to Proposed GR: Declassifying parts of -private of historical interest

2016-08-08 Thread Ian Jackson
Bart Martens writes ("Re: Amendment to Proposed GR: Declassifying parts of -private of historical interest"): > For example, your two points quoted above could easily be included > in a GR text using these phrases: > > - "The scope is limited to messages posted on debian-private before > debian

more GRs to come (Re: Current GRs clarification)

2016-08-08 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Kurt, thanks for these clarifications! On Sun, Aug 07, 2016 at 11:06:03PM +0200, Debian Project Secretary - Kurt Roeckx wrote: > GR about declassifying debian-private > = > > There are 2 options on the ballot: > - Choice 1: Allow declassifying parts of deb

Re: more GRs to come (Re: Current GRs clarification)

2016-08-08 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 08/08/2016 03:34 PM, Holger Levsen wrote: > I expressed my surprise about a missing third option ("depeal the GR > of 2005 and burry the idea of systematically declassifying > debian-private") on #debian-private and have learned there that this > seems to have been an oversight / others agree th

Re: Amendment to Proposed GR: Declassifying parts of -private of historical interest

2016-08-08 Thread Don Armstrong
On Sun, 07 Aug 2016, Micha Lenk wrote: > That would establishing some kind of "ex post facto" law (which by the > way is prohibited in many constitutions for good reasons). I really > don't want to leave the decision whether past messages will be > affected or not up to the list masters. This is w

Re: Amendment to Proposed GR: Declassifying parts of -private of historical interest

2016-08-08 Thread Bart Martens
On Mon, Aug 08, 2016 at 09:58:45AM -0500, Don Armstrong wrote: > On Sun, 07 Aug 2016, Micha Lenk wrote: > > That would establishing some kind of "ex post facto" law (which by the > > way is prohibited in many constitutions for good reasons). I really > > don't want to leave the decision whether pas

Re: Amendment to Proposed GR: Declassifying parts of -private of historical interest

2016-08-08 Thread Don Armstrong
On Mon, 08 Aug 2016, Bart Martens wrote: > On Mon, Aug 08, 2016 at 09:58:45AM -0500, Don Armstrong wrote: > > On Sun, 07 Aug 2016, Micha Lenk wrote: > > > That would establishing some kind of "ex post facto" law (which by the > > > way is prohibited in many constitutions for good reasons). I really

Re: Amendment to Proposed GR: Declassifying parts of -private of historical interest

2016-08-08 Thread Colin Tuckley
On 08/08/16 17:53, Don Armstrong wrote: > I envision that anyone who is delegated to do the declassification will > include something along those lines. But they are in the best position > to decide how to do that, if that ever happens. Indeed, and that means that a message written to debian-priv

Re: Amendment to Proposed GR: Declassifying parts of -private of historical interest

2016-08-08 Thread David Kalnischkies
On Sun, Aug 07, 2016 at 03:45:12PM +, Bart Martens wrote: > debian-private might make. You've proven that point today on debian-private. Which is either a leak of information, an argument that such a message (if it exists) shouldn't have been on d-private in the first place or you providing di

Re: Amendment to Proposed GR: Declassifying parts of -private of historical interest

2016-08-08 Thread Russ Allbery
Colin Tuckley writes: > On 08/08/16 17:53, Don Armstrong wrote: >> I envision that anyone who is delegated to do the declassification will >> include something along those lines. But they are in the best position >> to decide how to do that, if that ever happens. > Indeed, and that means that a

Re: Amendment to Proposed GR: Declassifying parts of -private of historical interest

2016-08-08 Thread Micha Lenk
Hi everybody, Am 08.08.2016 um 16:58 schrieb Don Armstrong: > On Sun, 07 Aug 2016, Micha Lenk wrote: >> That would establishing some kind of "ex post facto" law (which by the >> way is prohibited in many constitutions for good reasons). I really >> don't want to leave the decision whether past mes

Re: Amendment to Proposed GR: Declassifying parts of -private of historical interest

2016-08-08 Thread Nick Phillips
On Mon, 2016-08-08 at 19:56 +0200, David Kalnischkies wrote: > On Sun, Aug 07, 2016 at 03:45:12PM +, Bart Martens wrote: > > > > debian-private might make. You've proven that point today on > > debian-private. > Which is either a leak of information, an argument that such a > message > (if it