Amendment: We Choose Wording of the Day

2015-09-04 Thread Sam Hartman
As I discussed, in Andreas's resolution, I think that the strategic voting fix introduces more problems than it serves. INstead, I propose that we don't fix that, but trust ourselves to propose ballot options that are statement-of-the-day-like ballot options not requiring a super-majority when do

Re: Amendment: We Choose Wording of the Day

2015-09-04 Thread Jakub Wilk
* Sam Hartman , 2015-09-04, 12:03: Unfortunately, the definition of supermajorities in the SSD GR has a fencepost error. Please say "off-by-one" rather than "fencepost". See this sub-thread for rationale: https://lists.debian.org/20150831082617.gs9...@sym.noone.org if V(A,D) is greater than

Re: Amendment: We Choose Wording of the Day

2015-09-04 Thread Edward Allcutt
On Fri, 4 Sep 2015, Sam Hartman wrote: --- doc/constitution.wml(revision 10982) +++ doc/constitution.wml(working copy) @@ -913,7 +913,7 @@ An option A defeats the default option D by a majority - ratio N, if V(A,D) is

Re: Restated Amendment: We Choose Wording of the Day

2015-09-04 Thread Sam Hartman
Restated to fix comments received. For formality, to the extent that I am able, I withdraw my previous amendment. As I discussed, in Andreas's resolution, I think that the strategic voting fix introduces more problems than it serves. INstead, I propose that we don't fix that, but trust ourselves

Re: Amendment: We Choose Wording of the Day

2015-09-04 Thread Sam Hartman
Fixed, I hope; thanks.

Re: Restated Amendment: We Choose Wording of the Day

2015-09-04 Thread Wouter Verhelst
Hi Sam, On Fri, Sep 04, 2015 at 02:28:20PM +, Sam Hartman wrote: >- GENERAL RESOLUTION STARTS - > > >Constitutional Amendment: TC Supermajority Fix > >Prior to the Clone Proof SSD GR in June 2003, the Technical >Committee could overrule a Developer with a supermajori

Re: Restated Amendment: We Choose Wording of the Day

2015-09-04 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Fri, Sep 04, 2015 at 05:34:44PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > However, as I've said in <20150903164145.gb23...@grep.be>, I think the > better fix is to update 6.1.4 as follows: > > -4. Overrule a Developer (requires a 3:1 majority) > +4. Overrule a Developer (requires a 2:1 majority)

Re: Restated Amendment: We Choose Wording of the Day

2015-09-04 Thread Jakub Wilk
* Sam Hartman , 2015-09-04, 14:28: - GENERAL RESOLUTION STARTS - Constitutional Amendment: TC Supermajority Fix Prior to the Clone Proof SSD GR in June 2003, the Technical Committee could overrule a Developer with a supermajority of 3:1. Unfortunately, the definition of supe