I've read a few questions and answers which use the word "effective".
I suspect there are different interpretations of effective. In
particular, whether a delegation is still effective - because on the
face of it, that could be a no-op in all cases. So:
- what do you mean by "effective"?
- when
On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 10:09:30AM +0200, Konstantinos Margaritis wrote:
> a) Is there anything you regret doing in the past year (as DPL of
> course)?
I'd prefer a bunch of things to have worked out differently; but I can't
say there's much I regretted *doing*. I certainly regret *not* doing mor
On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 10:52:20PM -0500, Curt Larson wrote:
> Would you as DPL make it a primary goal to [work]
> towards putting Debian at the top of Dells (and maybe others to
> follow) list of approved and pre-installed OS's?
No -- I think that's a great thing to do, but it's not something I c
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 10:31:29AM +0200, Kalle Kivimaa wrote:
> Forgot to ask this question: In your opinion, what is a good length of
> total term for a DPL?
AIUI, we've never had a DPL last for three years -- Ian Murdock and Bruce
Perens were two-and-a-half each (and didn't have competed electi
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 12:13:12AM +0100, Ana Guerrero wrote:
> Why do you think you will be a good DPL?
I think the DPL needs to be able to make decisions, even if that means
making mistakes or getting flamed or making compromises. It's easy for
Debian to talk about things forever, but it's more
On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 09:50:41AM +0100, Mike Hommey wrote:
> These questions may be skipped by AJ, because the answers are obvious.
Hrm, I wonder if what's "obvious" matches what I actually think.
> What do you think of the dunc-tank initiative ?
I think people should be able to help Debian i
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 12:16:21PM +0100, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote:
> So, to the questions:
> * How important are regular releases for the project?
Predictable stable releases are very important.
> * How important are regular stable point releases for the project?
Having stable releases be s
On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 07:57:21AM +0200, Kalle Kivimaa wrote:
> What is the role of the DPL?
Being a visible example of what the project stands for -- that means
doing useful things, working with other people, promoting free software,
standing up for what they believe, and yes, doing things that
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 04:46:55PM -0600, John Lightsey wrote:
> 1) Do you believe past DPL's have used the power of delegation
> effectively?
I don't think the power of delegation is a terribly effective power;
once people have filled a role for a while, they end up with a moral
authority to reta
On Tue, 27 Feb 2007, MJ Ray wrote:
> - what do you mean by "effective"?
> - when would you say a delegation is no longer effective?
A delegation is no longer effective:
- either when the delegated work has been completed
- or when the delegate is MIA and not doing its delegated task any more
Chee
On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 06:54:35PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 09:50:41AM +0100, Mike Hommey wrote:
> > What do you think are the result of the "experiment" ?
> Some results are easy though:
>
> [...]
>
> 2) it's difficult to pay people to work on core Debian things if
Pierre Habouzit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I absolutely don't like the implications of that assertion.
Well, if an entity A feels that they would benefit from paying a DD
for his Debian work, they have two choices:
1. They can do it publicly, or
2. They can just work the details out with the
Anthony Towns wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 09:50:41AM +0100, Mike Hommey wrote:
>> These questions may be skipped by AJ, because the answers are obvious.
>
> Hrm, I wonder if what's "obvious" matches what I actually think.
>
>> What do you think of the dunc-tank initiative ?
>
> I think peop
Le mardi 27 février 2007 à 18:36 +1000, Anthony Towns a écrit :
> I'd rather see a Dunc-Tank report (and criticism and
> analysis of that) before thinking more about it.
Aren't you the one supposed to write it?
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Le mardi 27 février 2007 à 13:45 +0200, Kalle Kivimaa a écrit :
> Pierre Habouzit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > I absolutely don't like the implications of that assertion.
>
> Well, if an entity A feels that they would benefit from paying a DD
> for his Debian work, they have two choices:
>
>
Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I am *sick* of that assimilation of people against dunc-tank being those
> who feel DDs can't be paid. Just stop the FUD.
Well, a brief look at the archives produced these exhibits:
[1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2006/10/msg00100.html
[2]
On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 01:45:50PM +0200, Kalle Kivimaa wrote:
> Pierre Habouzit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > I absolutely don't like the implications of that assertion.
>
> Well, if an entity A feels that they would benefit from paying a DD
> for his Debian work, they have two choices:
>
>
* Pierre Habouzit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-02-27 14:03]:
> In the context of A beeing the DPL, understand my reservations about
> it. Remember that the subject is dunc-tank, not _an_ anynymous foo
> structure, but the Project (or some part of it) paying Developers.
Huh, dunc-tank != the Project
-
Hi,
I'd like to ask Anthony and Steve what they think of how they handled
the conflict between Frans Pop and Sven Luther, and other candidates how
they would have handled this conflict.
To everyone: how would you avoid such situations to become this
problematic in the future?
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On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 01:07:24PM +, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
> * Pierre Habouzit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-02-27 14:03]:
> > In the context of A beeing the DPL, understand my reservations about
> > it. Remember that the subject is dunc-tank, not _an_ anynymous foo
> > structure, but the Projec
Which of the candidates, if elected, would finally get me the ponies
I've been craving for years?
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Kalle Kivimaa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Pierre Habouzit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> I absolutely don't like the implications of that assertion.
>
> Well, if an entity A feels that they would benefit from paying a DD
> for his Debian work, they have two choices:
>
> 1. They can do it public
> Huh, dunc-tank != the Project
Clint, the DD != Clint, the person mocking you right now.
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On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 09:42:39AM +, MJ Ray wrote:
> I've read a few questions and answers which use the word "effective".
> I suspect there are different interpretations of effective. In
> particular, whether a delegation is still effective - because on the
> face of it, that could be a no-op
On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 11:43:05AM +, Sune Vuorela wrote:
> Hi!
>
> Many of the candidates are busy in other parts of debian with doing some
> other more or less important work.
>
> Which parts of your current work will you spend less time on when being
> a DPL?
Oh, I still have quite a bit
On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 02:10:32PM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'd like to ask Anthony and Steve what they think of how they handled
> the conflict between Frans Pop and Sven Luther, and other candidates how
> they would have handled this conflict.
>
> To everyone: how would you avoi
Hi,
On Tue, 27 Feb 2007, Sune Vuorela wrote:
> Many of the candidates are busy in other parts of debian with doing some
> other more or less important work.
>
> Which parts of your current work will you spend less time on when being
> a DPL?
I don't know. It might be that I'll simply earn less m
On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 02:22:57PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote:
> Which of the candidates, if elected, would finally get me the ponies
> I've been craving for years?
* Go to http://www.origamidatabase.com/
* Search for "pony"
* Buy one of the books your search turns up
* Fold
* Enjoy your pony
G
Hi DPL candidates,
The kFreeBSD ports are now in a good enough shape to be included in
unstable. Aurélien Jarno got ftpmaster's approval for that during an
informal conversation at debconf5 [1] but so far, there's been no
progress on this front.
Since then, the SCC split happened and ftp-master m
Hi,
On Tue, 27 Feb 2007, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'd like to ask Anthony and Steve what they think of how they handled
> the conflict between Frans Pop and Sven Luther, and other candidates how
> they would have handled this conflict.
I would have delegated the mediation attempt becaus
On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 06:20:14PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 05:17:01PM +0100, Julien BLACHE wrote:
> > If an ftpmaster was to charge an amount of money to include the new
> > architectures (as was the case for amd64), what would, according to
> > you, be a reasonable
On Tue, 27 Feb 2007, Mohammed Adnène Trojette wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 27, 2007, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> > I would worry much more if ftpmasters refused patches implementing
> > their projects when at the same time they are seeking funding. It's
> > unlikely to ever happen IMO.
>
> What do you think
On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 06:25:31PM +0100, Julien BLACHE wrote:
> Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Giving a reasonable time estimate would require me to know a *slight*
> > bit more about the FreeBSD ports than I do at this point in time; so I
> > won't try it.
>
> Ah, I expected t
On Sun, Feb 25, 2007, Curt Larson wrote:
> The very hot topic this week is Dell's move to offer open source
> alternatives. Buried several clicks away from Dells 'Ideas in Action'
> page is a vague reference to Debian pertaining to 8G servers. Would
> you as DPL make it a primary goal to attract a
Hi Julien,
On Tue, 27 Feb 2007, Julien BLACHE wrote:
> Since then, the SCC split happened and ftp-master moved to ries, so
> adding more architectures to the archive is no longer a problem, AIUI.
>
> Hence, what is your position on including those new, non-Linux ports ?
I have no problem with th
On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 05:17:01PM +0100, Julien BLACHE wrote:
> Hi DPL candidates,
>
> The kFreeBSD ports are now in a good enough shape to be included in
> unstable. Aurélien Jarno got ftpmaster's approval for that during an
> informal conversation at debconf5 [1] but so far, there's been no
> p
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007, Kalle Kivimaa wrote:
> I was unclear again. I meant, "how many times will you seek
> re-election if you are re-elected?"
Zero times.
I think one year is already enough to achieve great things. Two years
is OK if the project believes the DPL did good. After that, fresh
Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Ah, I expected the candidates to take the 5 minutes it takes to get up
>> to speed wrt the kFreeBSD ports by reading the appropriate status
>> pages.
>
> I can't be expected to know everything about Debian; in this particular
> case, I didn't even know
Hi,
So far, I have received 5 out of the 9 platforms, which
squeezes the window for the debates, since we should like to have the
rebuttals up in place before the debates take place.
So, candidates, if you have not already sent in your platform
to [EMAIL PROTECTED], please do s
Sune Vuorela <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On 2007-02-27, Julien BLACHE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> If an ftpmaster was to charge an amount of money to include the new
>> architectures (as was the case for amd64), what would, according to
> Huh? what has been the case for amd64? please enlighten
On Tue, Feb 27, 2007, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> I would worry much more if ftpmasters refused patches implementing
> their projects when at the same time they are seeking funding. It's
> unlikely to ever happen IMO.
What do you think about them just "refusing patches" or ignoring them
(not commenti
Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Giving a reasonable time estimate would require me to know a *slight*
> bit more about the FreeBSD ports than I do at this point in time; so I
> won't try it.
Ah, I expected the candidates to take the 5 minutes it takes to get up
to speed wrt the kFree
On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 06:51:24PM +0100, Julien BLACHE wrote:
> If you're not doing that when answering questions during the campaign,
> how can I assume that you'll actually do when you'll be DPL ?
The amount of questions asked during a typical DPL campaign period is
nearly insane.
I'd rather h
On 2007-02-27, Julien BLACHE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If an ftpmaster was to charge an amount of money to include the new
> architectures (as was the case for amd64), what would, according to
Huh? what has been the case for amd64? please enlighten me.
/Sune
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On Mon, Feb 26, 2007, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote:
> * How important are regular releases for the project?
Very. Regular releases make our users faithful, prevent them from
getting bored and trying something else. They also give credibility when
approaching hardware vendors (they don't want t
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007, Ana Guerrero wrote:
> Why do you think you will be a good DPL?
I am a reasonable, friendly person. I think most people in the
project like me as a person, and there is no one I'd be unwilling to
work with or listen to. I am happy to delegate, give power to others,
and rea
On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 07:05:02PM +0100, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 06:51:24PM +0100, Julien BLACHE wrote:
> > If you're not doing that when answering questions during the campaign,
> > how can I assume that you'll actually do when you'll be DPL ?
>
> The amount of que
On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 06:51:24PM +0100, Julien BLACHE wrote:
> Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Ah, I expected the candidates to take the 5 minutes it takes to get up
> >> to speed wrt the kFreeBSD ports by reading the appropriate status
> >> pages.
> >
> > I can't be expected to k
Jeroen van Wolffelaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (27/02/2007):
> I'd rather have a DPL that can prioritize and spend his time on what
> would benefit the project the most [...]
Like talking about ponies?
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Daniel Jacobowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 07:05:02PM +0100, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote:
>> On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 06:51:24PM +0100, Julien BLACHE wrote:
>> > If you're not doing that when answering questions during the campaign,
>> > how can I assume that you'll actu
Frank Küster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Totally agreed. Also, I think it was both courteous and wise to try
>> to respond promptly; if you let a question sit, in my experience, it
>> becomes harder to answer.
>
> In particular if one wants to answer the rest of the mail at once.
> People start
Julien BLACHE a écrit :
> Hi DPL candidates,
>
> The kFreeBSD ports are now in a good enough shape to be included in
> unstable. Aurélien Jarno got ftpmaster's approval for that during an
> informal conversation at debconf5 [1] but so far, there's been no
> progress on this front.
>
> Since then,
Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Ah, I expected the candidates to take the 5 minutes it takes to get up
to speed wrt the kFreeBSD ports by reading the appropriate status
pages.
I can't be expected to know everything about Debian; in this particular
case, I didn't even know there *wer
On Tue, Feb 27, 2007, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Feb 2007, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> > No. Delegating oneself could theoretically be used to create loopholes
> > so that a future DPL has no power anymore. Continuing an
> > already-existing delegation could not.
>
> Ack.
NACK. Please exp
On Tue, Feb 27, 2007, Sune Vuorela wrote:
> Many of the candidates are busy in other parts of debian with doing some
> other more or less important work.
>
> Which parts of your current work will you spend less time on when being
> a DPL?
My real life duties have priorities that I can change.
On Tue, Feb 27, 2007, Julien BLACHE wrote:
> Hence, what is your position on including those new, non-Linux ports ?
Favourable.
> What would the timeframe be like, according to you ?
I see no reason to wait a single day more.
For newer ports not already mentioned, I would like to make
On Tue, 27 Feb 2007, Sam Hocevar wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 27, 2007, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> > On Tue, 27 Feb 2007, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> > > No. Delegating oneself could theoretically be used to create loopholes
> > > so that a future DPL has no power anymore. Continuing an
> > > already-existing d
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007, John Lightsey wrote:
> 1) Do you believe past DPL's have used the power of delegation
> effectively?
Hard to tell. I believe additional delegation would have solved the
unresponsiveness issues we have been having for several years now, but
I wouldn't say it was the only w
On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 07:25:36PM +0100, Sam Hocevar wrote:
> > * Could you list the issues that you think delayed the release of etch?
> > Do you think that we need to restructure the release process for lenny
> > to avoid these? If yes, how?
>From an email I sent to madduck for a recent
On Tue, Feb 27, 2007, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> Probably. But what is the purpose of not being able to delegate to
> the DPL then? I doubt it was added just to make sure that people
> understand that delegation means sharing power with someone else.
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On 2/27/07, Julien BLACHE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi DPL candidates,
The kFreeBSD ports are now in a good enough shape to be included in
unstable. Aurélien Jarno got ftpmaster's approval for that during an
informal conversation at debconf5 [1] but so far, there's been no
progress on this fron
On 2/27/07, martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Which of the candidates, if elected, would finally get me the ponies
I've been craving for years?
Every time you ask for a pony, a kitten commits suicide. :-) I'll give
you a klingon translated Debian Operating Systems book and that's
enou
On 2/28/07, martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Which of the candidates, if elected, would finally get me the ponies
I've been craving for years?
IANADD, but I too crave ponies. I would like to lend my support to
martin's request.
continue with grown-up-time;
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On Wed, 28 Feb 2007, Mohammed Adnène Trojette wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 27, 2007, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> > Probably. But what is the purpose of not being able to delegate to
> > the DPL then? I doubt it was added just to make sure that people
> > understand that delegation means sharing power with som
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