Re: GR: Editorial amendments to the social contract

2004-04-01 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Wed, Mar 24, 2004 at 09:09:33PM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > Debian Project Secretary ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > New text: > > > > 5. Works that do not meet our free software standards > [...] > > We encourage CD > > manufacturers to read the licenses of the packages in these areas and

Re: SC changes

2004-04-01 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Sat, Mar 27, 2004 at 10:16:59AM +0100, Michael Banck wrote: > On Fri, Mar 26, 2004 at 10:57:17PM -0800, Don Armstrong wrote: > > On Fri, 26 Mar 2004, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: > > > Of course there are interactions between, but there are several > > > discrete proposals in each of the two vers

Re: Moving clarifications to an Addendum instead of editing the SC ?

2004-04-01 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Fri, Apr 02, 2004 at 12:34:56AM +0200, Bill Allombert wrote: > As far as I understand the motivation for the editorial change > are twofold: > > 1) remove some ambiguities on the wording, > 2) make the text look nicer from a literary point of vue. > > However, the SC is a document which has q

Re: GR: Editorial amendments to the social contract

2004-04-01 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Wed, Mar 24, 2004 at 09:07:27PM +0100, Andreas Barth wrote: > Well, IMHO the old version is much nicer. The social contract _should_ > in my opinion have some nice, not too technical start. A promise is a > very good start, and I'd like to keep that there. Forward references should be avoided w

Re: GR: Editorial amendments to the social contract

2004-04-01 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Tue, Mar 30, 2004 at 07:12:15PM -0500, Sam Hartman wrote: > I'd like to agree with the people who say that the proposed editorial > corrections destroy the style of the social contract. The proposed > new social contract has similar effect to the current one. I'm not > able to determine if the

Re: SC changes

2004-04-01 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Don Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > If you only like specific parts of a proposal, and there are enough > people who share you viewpoint for it to matter (6 people to second > your proposal) then you just need to propose an amendment > incorporating the parts you like and removing the part

Re: SC changes

2004-04-01 Thread Don Armstrong
[Yet again, I'm subscribed to -vote. Do *NOT* Cc: me.[1]] On Thu, 01 Apr 2004, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: > I don't have the arrogance to just declare "this is the best way" > without hearing discussion, which is what I was trying to invite. > > Sadly, Debian seems to head for the meta-discussion

Re: SC changes

2004-04-01 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Don Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I gathered that you were interested in seeing the vote split up into > multiple votes on every single section because you weren't happy with > the amendment in total rather than inviting a discussion on the > perceived issue(s) with different section(s)

Moving clarifications to an Addendum instead of editing the SC ?

2004-04-01 Thread Bill Allombert
Dear fellow developers, As far as I understand the motivation for the editorial change are twofold: 1) remove some ambiguities on the wording, 2) make the text look nicer from a literary point of vue. However, the SC is a document which has quite an historical and sentimental value for most of

Moving clarifications to an Addendum instead of editing the SC ?

2004-04-01 Thread Bill Allombert
Dear fellow developers, As far as I understand the motivation for the editorial change are twofold: 1) remove some ambiguities on the wording, 2) make the text look nicer from a literary point of vue. However, the SC is a document which has quite an historical and sentimental value for most of

Re: GR: Editorial amendments to the social contract

2004-04-01 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Wed, Mar 24, 2004 at 09:09:33PM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > Debian Project Secretary ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > New text: > > > > 5. Works that do not meet our free software standards > [...] > > We encourage CD > > manufacturers to read the licenses of the packages in these areas and

Re: SC changes

2004-04-01 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Sat, Mar 27, 2004 at 10:16:59AM +0100, Michael Banck wrote: > On Fri, Mar 26, 2004 at 10:57:17PM -0800, Don Armstrong wrote: > > On Fri, 26 Mar 2004, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: > > > Of course there are interactions between, but there are several > > > discrete proposals in each of the two vers

Re: Moving clarifications to an Addendum instead of editing the SC ?

2004-04-01 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Fri, Apr 02, 2004 at 12:34:56AM +0200, Bill Allombert wrote: > As far as I understand the motivation for the editorial change > are twofold: > > 1) remove some ambiguities on the wording, > 2) make the text look nicer from a literary point of vue. > > However, the SC is a document which has q

Re: GR: Editorial amendments to the social contract

2004-04-01 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Wed, Mar 24, 2004 at 09:07:27PM +0100, Andreas Barth wrote: > Well, IMHO the old version is much nicer. The social contract _should_ > in my opinion have some nice, not too technical start. A promise is a > very good start, and I'd like to keep that there. Forward references should be avoided w

Re: GR: Editorial amendments to the social contract

2004-04-01 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Tue, Mar 30, 2004 at 07:12:15PM -0500, Sam Hartman wrote: > I'd like to agree with the people who say that the proposed editorial > corrections destroy the style of the social contract. The proposed > new social contract has similar effect to the current one. I'm not > able to determine if the

Re: SC changes

2004-04-01 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Don Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > If you only like specific parts of a proposal, and there are enough > people who share you viewpoint for it to matter (6 people to second > your proposal) then you just need to propose an amendment > incorporating the parts you like and removing the part

Re: SC changes

2004-04-01 Thread Don Armstrong
[Yet again, I'm subscribed to -vote. Do *NOT* Cc: me.[1]] On Thu, 01 Apr 2004, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: > I don't have the arrogance to just declare "this is the best way" > without hearing discussion, which is what I was trying to invite. > > Sadly, Debian seems to head for the meta-discussion

Re: SC changes

2004-04-01 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Don Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I gathered that you were interested in seeing the vote split up into > multiple votes on every single section because you weren't happy with > the amendment in total rather than inviting a discussion on the > perceived issue(s) with different section(s)