Re: GR: Editorial amendments to the social contract

2004-03-29 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Raul Miller wrote: >> >> >> 1. Debian Will Remain 100% Free Software > >> >> This states that everything in Debian is software, and futhermore that >> >> everything in Debian is free. > >> > :%s/and furthermore/and\/or/ > > On Sat, Mar 27, 2004 at 05:27:34PM -0500, Nathanael Nerode wrote: >> No

Re: GR: Editorial amendments to the social contract

2004-03-29 Thread Michael Banck
On Mon, Mar 29, 2004 at 04:27:58AM -0500, Nathanael Nerode wrote: > I think my comment was actually appropriate and to-the-point. I beg to differ, but *shrug* Michael -- Michael Banck Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.advogato.org/person/mbanck/diary.html

Re: GR: Editorial amendments to the social contract

2004-03-29 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Hamish Moffatt wrote: > On Mon, Mar 29, 2004 at 01:21:33AM -0500, Nathanael Nerode wrote: >> Raul Miller wrote: >> > * There are people in Debian. >> Fine, there are a bunch of silly interpretations as well. The context >> indicates that "Debian" means "the Debian system" or "the Debian >> dist

Re: GR: Editorial amendments to the social contract

2004-03-29 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Mon, Mar 29, 2004 at 01:21:33AM -0500, Nathanael Nerode wrote: > Raul Miller wrote: > > * There are people in Debian. > Fine, there are a bunch of silly interpretations as well. The context > indicates that "Debian" means "the Debian system" or "the Debian > distribution". You could interpre

Re: GR: Editorial amendments to the social contract

2004-03-29 Thread Michael Banck
On Mon, Mar 29, 2004 at 01:21:33AM -0500, Nathanael Nerode wrote: > Raul Miller wrote: > > On Sat, Mar 27, 2004 at 05:27:34PM -0500, Nathanael Nerode wrote: > >> No, trust me, we parsed this one very carefully and took an excessive > >> amount of time on this in debian-legal. There are two possib

Re: GR: Editorial amendments to the social contract

2004-03-29 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Michael Banck wrote: > On Mon, Mar 29, 2004 at 01:21:33AM -0500, Nathanael Nerode wrote: >> Raul Miller wrote: >> > On Sat, Mar 27, 2004 at 05:27:34PM -0500, Nathanael Nerode wrote: > >> >> No, trust me, we parsed this one very carefully and took an excessive >> >> amount of time on this in debia

Re: GR: Editorial amendments to the social contract

2004-03-29 Thread Raul Miller
On Mon, Mar 29, 2004 at 01:21:33AM -0500, Nathanael Nerode wrote: > > * There are people in Debian. > Fine, there are a bunch of silly interpretations as well. The context > indicates that "Debian" means "the Debian system" or "the Debian > distribution". You could interpret it as meaning "the

Re: GR: Alternative editorial changes to the SC

2004-03-29 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sat, Mar 27, 2004 at 05:05:57PM -0500, Nathanael Nerode wrote: > OK, while we're proposing changes > > How about "...entirely free software. This includes programs, > documentation, data, and any other works which are part of the Debian > system (except possibly license texts which are di

Re: GR: Alternative editorial changes to the SC

2004-03-29 Thread Craig Sanders
On Sat, Mar 27, 2004 at 05:05:57PM -0500, Nathanael Nerode wrote: > > This would clarify the main point that has been spawning endless attempts by > occasional maintainers to sneak non-free stuff into "main". what "endless attempts" would these be? have there been any incidents in the real world

Re: GR: Alternative editorial changes to the SC

2004-03-29 Thread Michael Banck
On Tue, Mar 30, 2004 at 07:59:09AM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote: > On Sat, Mar 27, 2004 at 05:05:57PM -0500, Nathanael Nerode wrote: [...] > you bigots lost the vote (you didn't even come close) - can't you please just > shut up and go away? do you really have to try to continue the "discussion", >

Re: GR: Editorial amendments to the social contract

2004-03-29 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Mon, Mar 29, 2004 at 01:21:33AM -0500, Nathanael Nerode wrote: > Raul Miller wrote: > > * There are people in Debian. > Fine, there are a bunch of silly interpretations as well. The context > indicates that "Debian" means "the Debian system" or "the Debian > distribution". You could interpre

Re: GR: Editorial amendments to the social contract

2004-03-29 Thread Michael Banck
On Mon, Mar 29, 2004 at 01:21:33AM -0500, Nathanael Nerode wrote: > Raul Miller wrote: > > On Sat, Mar 27, 2004 at 05:27:34PM -0500, Nathanael Nerode wrote: > >> No, trust me, we parsed this one very carefully and took an excessive > >> amount of time on this in debian-legal. There are two possib

Re: GR: Editorial amendments to the social contract

2004-03-29 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Michael Banck wrote: > On Mon, Mar 29, 2004 at 01:21:33AM -0500, Nathanael Nerode wrote: >> Raul Miller wrote: >> > On Sat, Mar 27, 2004 at 05:27:34PM -0500, Nathanael Nerode wrote: > >> >> No, trust me, we parsed this one very carefully and took an excessive >> >> amount of time on this in debia

Re: GR: Editorial amendments to the social contract

2004-03-29 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Hamish Moffatt wrote: > On Mon, Mar 29, 2004 at 01:21:33AM -0500, Nathanael Nerode wrote: >> Raul Miller wrote: >> > * There are people in Debian. >> Fine, there are a bunch of silly interpretations as well. The context >> indicates that "Debian" means "the Debian system" or "the Debian >> dist

Re: GR: Editorial amendments to the social contract

2004-03-29 Thread Michael Banck
On Mon, Mar 29, 2004 at 04:27:58AM -0500, Nathanael Nerode wrote: > I think my comment was actually appropriate and to-the-point. I beg to differ, but *shrug* Michael -- Michael Banck Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.advogato.org/person/mbanck/diary.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, emai

Re: GR: Editorial amendments to the social contract

2004-03-29 Thread Raul Miller
On Mon, Mar 29, 2004 at 01:21:33AM -0500, Nathanael Nerode wrote: > > * There are people in Debian. > Fine, there are a bunch of silly interpretations as well. The context > indicates that "Debian" means "the Debian system" or "the Debian > distribution". You could interpret it as meaning "the

Re: GR: Alternative editorial changes to the SC

2004-03-29 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sat, Mar 27, 2004 at 05:05:57PM -0500, Nathanael Nerode wrote: > OK, while we're proposing changes > > How about "...entirely free software. This includes programs, > documentation, data, and any other works which are part of the Debian > system (except possibly license texts which are di

Re: GR: Alternative editorial changes to the SC

2004-03-29 Thread Craig Sanders
On Sat, Mar 27, 2004 at 05:05:57PM -0500, Nathanael Nerode wrote: > > This would clarify the main point that has been spawning endless attempts by > occasional maintainers to sneak non-free stuff into "main". what "endless attempts" would these be? have there been any incidents in the real world

Re: GR: Alternative editorial changes to the SC

2004-03-29 Thread Michael Banck
On Tue, Mar 30, 2004 at 07:59:09AM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote: > On Sat, Mar 27, 2004 at 05:05:57PM -0500, Nathanael Nerode wrote: [...] > you bigots lost the vote (you didn't even come close) - can't you please just > shut up and go away? do you really have to try to continue the "discussion", >