Re: Call for votes for the Condorcet/Clone proot SSD voting methodsGR

2003-06-13 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Thu, Jun 12, 2003 at 07:03:52PM -0400, Raul Miller wrote: > For some reason, some people think that quorum should be assessed after > the vote and should be used to toss the vote if not enough votes were > received. That has bad properties which can discourage some voters when > participation i

Re: Call for votes for the Condorcet/Clone proot SSD voting methodsGR

2003-06-13 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, Jun 14, 2003 at 12:42:32AM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > On Thu, Jun 12, 2003 at 07:03:52PM -0400, Raul Miller wrote: > > For some reason, some people think that quorum should be assessed after > > the vote and should be used to toss the vote if not enough votes were > > received. That ha

Re: Call for votes for the Condorcet/Clone proot SSD voting methodsGR

2003-06-13 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > What's wrong with "classic quorum" though? Why is your method superior? Clasic quorum (10): Nine people show up, all of them vote for the resolution, the motion fails because of unmet quorum. Person #10 shows up and votes against the resolution, the motion now succee

Re: Call for votes for the Condorcet/Clone proot SSD voting methodsGR

2003-06-13 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
On Friday, Jun 13, 2003, at 11:27 US/Eastern, Steve Langasek wrote: In contrast, with an electronic vote that's open for an extended period and for which quorum is calculated per-vote, classic quorum means it may be in your best interest to *not* vote on a particular issue if turnout is low,

Re: Call for votes for the Condorcet/Clone proot SSD voting methodsGR

2003-06-13 Thread Andrew Pimlott
On Thu, Jun 12, 2003 at 05:26:57PM -0400, Nathanael Nerode wrote: > Buddha Buck said: > > or has more not-approved votes than approved votes. Only > >votes that have a minimum number of approved votes and are approved by > >more people than don't approve it are considered in the cSSD process. > >

Third call for votes: Condorcet/Clone Proof SSD vote tallying GR

2003-06-13 Thread Debian Project Secretary
Hi, This is the third call for votes for the Condorcet/Clone Proof SSD vote tallying GR. Votes must be received by 23:59:59, Friday, June 20th, 2003 This vote is being conducted in accordance to the Debian Constitution, Section A, Standard Resolution Procedure, to vote on an Gene

Re: Call for votes for the Condorcet/Clone proot SSD voting methodsGR

2003-06-13 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Fri, 13 Jun 2003 12:38:54 -0400, Anthony DeRobertis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Friday, Jun 13, 2003, at 11:27 US/Eastern, Steve Langasek wrote: >> >> In contrast, with an electronic vote that's open for an extended >> period and for which quorum is calculated per-vote, classic quorum >> m

Re: Call for votes for the Condorcet/Clone proot SSD voting methodsGR

2003-06-13 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Thu, Jun 12, 2003 at 07:03:52PM -0400, Raul Miller wrote: > For some reason, some people think that quorum should be assessed after > the vote and should be used to toss the vote if not enough votes were > received. That has bad properties which can discourage some voters when > participation i

Re: Call for votes for the Condorcet/Clone proot SSD voting methodsGR

2003-06-13 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, Jun 14, 2003 at 12:42:32AM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > On Thu, Jun 12, 2003 at 07:03:52PM -0400, Raul Miller wrote: > > For some reason, some people think that quorum should be assessed after > > the vote and should be used to toss the vote if not enough votes were > > received. That ha

Re: Call for votes for the Condorcet/Clone proot SSD voting methodsGR

2003-06-13 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > What's wrong with "classic quorum" though? Why is your method superior? Clasic quorum (10): Nine people show up, all of them vote for the resolution, the motion fails because of unmet quorum. Person #10 shows up and votes against the resolution, the motion now succee

Re: Call for votes for the Condorcet/Clone proot SSD voting methodsGR

2003-06-13 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
On Friday, Jun 13, 2003, at 11:27 US/Eastern, Steve Langasek wrote: In contrast, with an electronic vote that's open for an extended period and for which quorum is calculated per-vote, classic quorum means it may be in your best interest to *not* vote on a particular issue if turnout is low, That's

Re: Call for votes for the Condorcet/Clone proot SSD voting methodsGR

2003-06-13 Thread Andrew Pimlott
On Thu, Jun 12, 2003 at 05:26:57PM -0400, Nathanael Nerode wrote: > Buddha Buck said: > > or has more not-approved votes than approved votes. Only > >votes that have a minimum number of approved votes and are approved by > >more people than don't approve it are considered in the cSSD process. > >

Third call for votes: Condorcet/Clone Proof SSD vote tallying GR

2003-06-13 Thread Debian Project Secretary
Hi, This is the third call for votes for the Condorcet/Clone Proof SSD vote tallying GR. Votes must be received by 23:59:59, Friday, June 20th, 2003 This vote is being conducted in accordance to the Debian Constitution, Section A, Standard Resolution Procedure, to vote on an Gene

Re: Call for votes for the Condorcet/Clone proot SSD votingmethodsGR

2003-06-13 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Fri, 13 Jun 2003 12:38:54 -0400, Anthony DeRobertis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Friday, Jun 13, 2003, at 11:27 US/Eastern, Steve Langasek wrote: >> >> In contrast, with an electronic vote that's open for an extended >> period and for which quorum is calculated per-vote, classic quorum >> me