Re: Formal CFV: General Resolution to Abolish Non-Free

2000-06-09 Thread Darren O. Benham
On Thu, Jun 08, 2000 at 10:56:39PM +0100, Mark Brown wrote: > On Thu, Jun 08, 2000 at 08:49:03AM -0700, Darren O. Benham wrote: > > > Not so.. the call for vote can only come from the proposer or one of the > > sponsors. (A.2.1) > > I think it's a terminology confusion thing: the proponent has to

Re: General Resolution: Removing non-free, Draft 2

2000-06-09 Thread Stephen R. Gore
Seconded. John Goerzen wrote: > -- > Debian General Resolution > > Resolved: > > A. That the Debian Social Contract with the Free Software Community be > amended as follows: > > 1. That text of Section 5 be modified to read: "We acknowledge that > some of our users require the use of pr

Re: General Resolution: Removing non-free, Draft 2

2000-06-09 Thread Ben Collins
I second the same proposal aswell. On Fri, Jun 09, 2000 at 01:39:41PM -0500, Stephen R. Gore wrote: > Seconded. > > John Goerzen wrote: > > -- > > Debian General Resolution > > > > Resolved: > > > > A. That the Debian Social Contract with the Free Software Community be > > amended as follow

Seconded, sponsored here too, Re: John's proposal

2000-06-09 Thread Jim Lynch
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In the message identified as Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> made a General Resolution whose subject line reads Subject: General Resolution: Removing non-free, Draft 2. I second this proposal, and permit my

Re: Seconded, sponsored here too, Re: John's proposal

2000-06-09 Thread Ben Pfaff
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Jim Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > In the message identified as > > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > > John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > made a General Resolution whose subject line reads > > Subject: General Resolution: Removing non-free, Dr

Re: Formal CFV: General Resolution to Abolish Non-Free

2000-06-09 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
I am seconding/sponsoring the general resolution, which can be found below. Thanks, Marcus On Wed, Jun 07, 2000 at 11:03:33PM -0500, John Goerzen wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > DEBIAN GENERAL RESOLUTION > > Proposed by: John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Seconds:

Re: Removing non-free - reality check.

2000-06-09 Thread Christophe TROESTLER
On 09 Jun 2000, Taketoshi Sano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [...] > > So, if the phrase "Does Debian distribute non-free software or not?" > means "The Debian Project makes accessible the non-free packages ?", > then answer is Yes. But if it means "The Official Debian System > includes the non-

Re: Removing non-free - reality check.

2000-06-09 Thread Joseph Carter
On Sat, Jun 10, 2000 at 03:09:30AM +0200, Christophe TROESTLER wrote: > > So, if the phrase "Does Debian distribute non-free software or not?" > > means "The Debian Project makes accessible the non-free packages ?", > > then answer is Yes. But if it means "The Official Debian System > > includes t

RE: Formal CFV: General Resolution to Abolish Non-Free

2000-06-09 Thread Shawn T. Rutledge
This is from the perspective of a loyal debian user (since 1996 or so)... I'm opposed to this in a big way. I use debian for its ease-of-use; the philosophical purity is a secondary consideration. Free software is very important, but I think that putting non-free stuff in the non-free package i

Re: Formal CFV: General Resolution to Abolish Non-Free

2000-06-09 Thread Darren O. Benham
On Thu, Jun 08, 2000 at 10:56:39PM +0100, Mark Brown wrote: > On Thu, Jun 08, 2000 at 08:49:03AM -0700, Darren O. Benham wrote: > > > Not so.. the call for vote can only come from the proposer or one of the > > sponsors. (A.2.1) > > I think it's a terminology confusion thing: the proponent has t

Re: General Resolution: Removing non-free, Draft 2

2000-06-09 Thread Stephen R. Gore
Seconded. John Goerzen wrote: > -- > Debian General Resolution > > Resolved: > > A. That the Debian Social Contract with the Free Software Community be > amended as follows: > > 1. That text of Section 5 be modified to read: "We acknowledge that > some of our users require the use of p

Re: General Resolution: Removing non-free, Draft 2

2000-06-09 Thread Ben Collins
I second the same proposal aswell. On Fri, Jun 09, 2000 at 01:39:41PM -0500, Stephen R. Gore wrote: > Seconded. > > John Goerzen wrote: > > -- > > Debian General Resolution > > > > Resolved: > > > > A. That the Debian Social Contract with the Free Software Community be > > amended as follo

Seconded, sponsored here too, Re: John's proposal

2000-06-09 Thread Jim Lynch
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In the message identified as Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> made a General Resolution whose subject line reads Subject: General Resolution: Removing non-free, Draft 2. I second this proposal, and permit my

Re: Seconded, sponsored here too, Re: John's proposal

2000-06-09 Thread Ben Pfaff
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Jim Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > In the message identified as > > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > > John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > made a General Resolution whose subject line reads > > Subject: General Resolution: Removing non-free, D

Re: Formal CFV: General Resolution to Abolish Non-Free

2000-06-09 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
I am seconding/sponsoring the general resolution, which can be found below. Thanks, Marcus On Wed, Jun 07, 2000 at 11:03:33PM -0500, John Goerzen wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > DEBIAN GENERAL RESOLUTION > > Proposed by: John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Seconds:

Re: Removing non-free - reality check.

2000-06-09 Thread Christophe TROESTLER
On 09 Jun 2000, Taketoshi Sano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [...] > > So, if the phrase "Does Debian distribute non-free software or not?" > means "The Debian Project makes accessible the non-free packages ?", > then answer is Yes. But if it means "The Official Debian System > includes the non

Re: Removing non-free - reality check.

2000-06-09 Thread Joseph Carter
On Sat, Jun 10, 2000 at 03:09:30AM +0200, Christophe TROESTLER wrote: > > So, if the phrase "Does Debian distribute non-free software or not?" > > means "The Debian Project makes accessible the non-free packages ?", > > then answer is Yes. But if it means "The Official Debian System > > includes

RE: Formal CFV: General Resolution to Abolish Non-Free

2000-06-09 Thread Shawn T. Rutledge
This is from the perspective of a loyal debian user (since 1996 or so)... I'm opposed to this in a big way. I use debian for its ease-of-use; the philosophical purity is a secondary consideration. Free software is very important, but I think that putting non-free stuff in the non-free package