Re: revised implementation of the new voting machinery draft

2002-11-17 Thread Raul Miller
On Sun, Nov 17, 2002 at 07:27:28PM +0100, Jochen Voss wrote: > .SUM A:0 27 24 29 29 > .SUM B: 220 25 29 28 > .SUM C: 25 240 30 32 > .SUM D: 21 21 190 30 > .SUM X: 21 22 18 180 > into it, to get > .TIE A > .TIE C

Re: revised implementation of the new voting machinery draft

2002-11-17 Thread Jochen Voss
Hello, On Sun, Nov 17, 2002 at 12:47:11PM -0500, Raul Miller wrote: > It's a difference from the former implementation because the former > implementation was wrong. Maybe not: first it uses a completely different (but equivalent) method for the computation (beat paths). And second: the implement

Re: revised implementation of the new voting machinery draft

2002-11-17 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sun, Nov 17, 2002 at 01:30:59PM -0500, Raul Miller wrote: > On Sun, Nov 17, 2002 at 12:47:11PM -0500, Raul Miller wrote: > > > C should have been excluded from the Schwartz set, because it has > > > no votes. > On Mon, Nov 18, 2002 at 04:23:02AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > > Uh, no it shouldn'

Re: revised implementation of the new voting machinery draft

2002-11-17 Thread Raul Miller
On Sun, Nov 17, 2002 at 12:47:11PM -0500, Raul Miller wrote: > > Yes: A got 27 votes prefering it over B, B got 22 votes prefering it > > over A, all preferences involving C have been eliminated. > > C should have been excluded from the Schwartz set, because it has > > no votes. On Mon, Nov 18, 20

Re: revised implementation of the new voting machinery draft

2002-11-17 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sun, Nov 17, 2002 at 12:47:11PM -0500, Raul Miller wrote: > Yes: A got 27 votes prefering it over B, B got 22 votes prefering it > over A, all preferences involving C have been eliminated. > C should have been excluded from the Schwartz set, because it has > no votes. Uh, no it shouldn't. Where

Re: revised implementation of the new voting machinery draft

2002-11-17 Thread Raul Miller
On Sun, Nov 17, 2002 at 07:27:28PM +0100, Jochen Voss wrote: > .SUM A:0 27 24 29 29 > .SUM B: 220 25 29 28 > .SUM C: 25 240 30 32 > .SUM D: 21 21 190 30 > .SUM X: 21 22 18 180 > into it, to get > .TIE A > .TIE C

Re: revised implementation of the new voting machinery draft

2002-11-17 Thread Raul Miller
> > Minor nit: it's (C,A) which is weakest, as (A,C) is not a proposition. On Sun, Nov 17, 2002 at 06:31:19PM +0100, Jochen Voss wrote: > Why not? To quote from your Nov 17 draft: I changed the definition of proposition between Nov 16 draft and Nov 17 draft. That above minor nit was in the con

Re: revised implementation of the new voting machinery draft

2002-11-17 Thread Jochen Voss
Hello, On Sun, Nov 17, 2002 at 12:47:11PM -0500, Raul Miller wrote: > It's a difference from the former implementation because the former > implementation was wrong. Maybe not: first it uses a completely different (but equivalent) method for the computation (beat paths). And second: the implement

Re: revised implementation of the new voting machinery draft

2002-11-17 Thread Jochen Voss
On Sun, Nov 17, 2002 at 09:38:08AM -0500, Raul Miller wrote: > On Sun, Nov 17, 2002 at 12:50:59PM +0100, Jochen Voss wrote: > > ABCDX > >A- 27 24 29 29 > >B 22- 25 29 28 > >C 25 24- 30 32 > >D 21 21 19

Re: revised implementation of the new voting machinery draft

2002-11-17 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sun, Nov 17, 2002 at 01:30:59PM -0500, Raul Miller wrote: > On Sun, Nov 17, 2002 at 12:47:11PM -0500, Raul Miller wrote: > > > C should have been excluded from the Schwartz set, because it has > > > no votes. > On Mon, Nov 18, 2002 at 04:23:02AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > > Uh, no it shouldn'

Re: revised implementation of the new voting machinery draft

2002-11-17 Thread Raul Miller
On Sun, Nov 17, 2002 at 12:47:11PM -0500, Raul Miller wrote: > > Yes: A got 27 votes prefering it over B, B got 22 votes prefering it > > over A, all preferences involving C have been eliminated. > > C should have been excluded from the Schwartz set, because it has > > no votes. On Mon, Nov 18, 20

Re: revised implementation of the new voting machinery draft

2002-11-17 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sun, Nov 17, 2002 at 12:47:11PM -0500, Raul Miller wrote: > Yes: A got 27 votes prefering it over B, B got 22 votes prefering it > over A, all preferences involving C have been eliminated. > C should have been excluded from the Schwartz set, because it has > no votes. Uh, no it shouldn't. Where

Re: revised implementation of the new voting machinery draft

2002-11-17 Thread Raul Miller
> > Minor nit: it's (C,A) which is weakest, as (A,C) is not a proposition. On Sun, Nov 17, 2002 at 06:31:19PM +0100, Jochen Voss wrote: > Why not? To quote from your Nov 17 draft: I changed the definition of proposition between Nov 16 draft and Nov 17 draft. That above minor nit was in the con

Re: revised implementation of the new voting machinery draft

2002-11-17 Thread Jochen Voss
On Sun, Nov 17, 2002 at 09:38:08AM -0500, Raul Miller wrote: > On Sun, Nov 17, 2002 at 12:50:59PM +0100, Jochen Voss wrote: > > ABCDX > >A- 27 24 29 29 > >B 22- 25 29 28 > >C 25 24- 30 32 > >D 21 21 19

Re: revised implementation of the new voting machinery draft

2002-11-17 Thread Raul Miller
On Sun, Nov 17, 2002 at 12:50:59PM +0100, Jochen Voss wrote: > ABCDX >A- 27 24 29 29 >B 22- 25 29 28 >C 25 24- 30 32 >D 21 21 19- 30 >X 21 22 18 18- > the Schwartz set i

Re: revised implementation of the new voting machinery draft

2002-11-17 Thread Raul Miller
On Sun, Nov 17, 2002 at 12:50:59PM +0100, Jochen Voss wrote: > ABCDX >A- 27 24 29 29 >B 22- 25 29 28 >C 25 24- 30 32 >D 21 21 19- 30 >X 21 22 18 18- > the Schwartz set i

revised implementation of the new voting machinery draft

2002-11-17 Thread Jochen Voss
Hello, in order to better understand our new voting draft, I have completed a new version of my implementation of the voting algorithm. Changes are: * New input format: you can now use the same input file for my and Anthony Towns's implementation. * The default option seems to be not requ

revised implementation of the new voting machinery draft

2002-11-17 Thread Jochen Voss
Hello, in order to better understand our new voting draft, I have completed a new version of my implementation of the voting algorithm. Changes are: * New input format: you can now use the same input file for my and Anthony Towns's implementation. * The default option seems to be not requ