Re: integrity of elections

2003-03-28 Thread Buddha Buck
Hamish Moffatt wrote: On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 02:18:45PM +1100, Glenn McGrath wrote: And why do you think this should be allowed? Because they are a part of the debian community, and probably have a reasonable understanding of debian politics. That's true of some of our users too. There wo

Re: integrity of elections

2003-03-28 Thread Buddha Buck
Hamish Moffatt wrote: On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 02:18:45PM +1100, Glenn McGrath wrote: And why do you think this should be allowed? Because they are a part of the debian community, and probably have a reasonable understanding of debian politics. That's true of some of our users too. There would be

Re: integrity of elections

2003-03-28 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 02:18:45PM +1100, Glenn McGrath wrote: > > And why do you think this should be allowed? > > Because they are a part of the debian community, and probably have a > reasonable understanding of debian politics. That's true of some of our users too. There would be a few who ha

Re: integrity of elections

2003-03-28 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 02:18:45PM +1100, Glenn McGrath wrote: > > And why do you think this should be allowed? > > Because they are a part of the debian community, and probably have a > reasonable understanding of debian politics. That's true of some of our users too. There would be a few who ha

Re: integrity of elections

2003-03-25 Thread Glenn McGrath
> And why do you think this should be allowed? Because they are a part of the debian community, and probably have a reasonable understanding of debian politics. > I think we should investigate why they are so long > in the queue, but giving them voting rights per se is not > a good idea IMHO, as

Re: integrity of elections

2003-03-25 Thread Glenn McGrath
> And why do you think this should be allowed? Because they are a part of the debian community, and probably have a reasonable understanding of debian politics. > I think we should investigate why they are so long > in the queue, but giving them voting rights per se is not > a good idea IMHO, as

Re: integrity of elections

2003-03-25 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, On Tuesday 25 March 2003 13:02, Sven Luther wrote: > On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 03:37:43AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > > Simple. Just vote all candidates at 1 -- and put the default > > option at 5 (v5). > > would not 2 be enough (v2) ? > That makes no difference whatsoever. --

Re: integrity of elections

2003-03-25 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, On Tuesday 25 March 2003 13:02, Sven Luther wrote: > On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 03:37:43AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > > Simple. Just vote all candidates at 1 -- and put the default > > option at 5 (v5). > > would not 2 be enough (v2) ? > That makes no difference whatsoever. --

Re: integrity of elections

2003-03-25 Thread Mario Lang
Glenn McGrath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, 24 Mar 2003 16:03:41 -0600 > Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> My original point was that people who do not actually >> exercise their franchise are unlikely to be one of the active set -- >> and need to be looked at to see

Re: integrity of elections

2003-03-25 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 03:37:43AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > >> On Tue, 25 Mar 2003 09:11:23 +, > >> Matthew Vernon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > In which case, there should be a procedure for abstaining? > > Simple. Just vote all candidates at 1 -- and put the default > opt

Re: integrity of elections

2003-03-25 Thread Mario Lang
Glenn McGrath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, 24 Mar 2003 16:03:41 -0600 > Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> My original point was that people who do not actually >> exercise their franchise are unlikely to be one of the active set -- >> and need to be looked at to see

Re: integrity of elections

2003-03-25 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 10:35:02AM +1100, Glenn McGrath wrote: > On Mon, 24 Mar 2003 16:03:41 -0600 > Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > My original point was that people who do not actually > > exercise their franchise are unlikely to be one of the active set -- > > and need

Re: integrity of elections

2003-03-25 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 03:37:43AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > >> On Tue, 25 Mar 2003 09:11:23 +, > >> Matthew Vernon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > In which case, there should be a procedure for abstaining? > > Simple. Just vote all candidates at 1 -- and put the default > opt

Re: integrity of elections

2003-03-25 Thread Manoj Srivastava
>> On Tue, 25 Mar 2003 09:11:23 +, >> Matthew Vernon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > In which case, there should be a procedure for abstaining? Simple. Just vote all candidates at 1 -- and put the default option at 5 (v5). > Personally, I've yet to notice any of the DPLs whilst I

Re: integrity of elections

2003-03-25 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 10:35:02AM +1100, Glenn McGrath wrote: > On Mon, 24 Mar 2003 16:03:41 -0600 > Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > My original point was that people who do not actually > > exercise their franchise are unlikely to be one of the active set -- > > and need

Re: integrity of elections

2003-03-25 Thread Matthew Vernon
> On Mon, 24 Mar 2003 16:03:41 -0600 > Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >My original point was that people who do not actually > > exercise their franchise are unlikely to be one of the active set -- > > and need to be looked at to see if they are indeed inactive. Having

Re: integrity of elections

2003-03-25 Thread Manoj Srivastava
>> On Tue, 25 Mar 2003 09:11:23 +, >> Matthew Vernon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > In which case, there should be a procedure for abstaining? Simple. Just vote all candidates at 1 -- and put the default option at 5 (v5). > Personally, I've yet to notice any of the DPLs whilst I

Re: integrity of elections

2003-03-25 Thread Matthew Vernon
> On Mon, 24 Mar 2003 16:03:41 -0600 > Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >My original point was that people who do not actually > > exercise their franchise are unlikely to be one of the active set -- > > and need to be looked at to see if they are indeed inactive. Having

Re: integrity of elections

2003-03-24 Thread Manoj Srivastava
>> On Tue, 25 Mar 2003 10:35:02 +1100, >> Glenn McGrath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > I would like to see NM'ers who have been in the queue for more than > 6 months be able to vote. You realize that needs a GR, and one with a super majority requirement, to change the constitution.

Re: integrity of elections

2003-03-24 Thread Glenn McGrath
On Mon, 24 Mar 2003 16:03:41 -0600 Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My original point was that people who do not actually > exercise their franchise are unlikely to be one of the active set -- > and need to be looked at to see if they are indeed inactive. Having > inactive me

Re: integrity of elections

2003-03-24 Thread Manoj Srivastava
>> On Tue, 25 Mar 2003 10:35:02 +1100, >> Glenn McGrath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > I would like to see NM'ers who have been in the queue for more than > 6 months be able to vote. You realize that needs a GR, and one with a super majority requirement, to change the constitution.

Re: integrity of elections

2003-03-24 Thread Manoj Srivastava
>> On Mon, 24 Mar 2003 15:54:45 -0500, >> Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > I did not vote in this election. I know who I'd have voted for, if > I did vote, but I'm struggling with some more fundamental issues. The polls are not yet closed. > More generally, most Debian decisi

Re: integrity of elections

2003-03-24 Thread Glenn McGrath
On Mon, 24 Mar 2003 16:03:41 -0600 Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My original point was that people who do not actually > exercise their franchise are unlikely to be one of the active set -- > and need to be looked at to see if they are indeed inactive. Having > inactive me

integrity of elections

2003-03-24 Thread Raul Miller
I did not vote in this election. I know who I'd have voted for, if I did vote, but I'm struggling with some more fundamental issues. More generally, most Debian decisions have been made by an "activist elite". So far, that's seemed to work fairly well -- perhaps because of our charter, we've be

Re: integrity of elections

2003-03-24 Thread Manoj Srivastava
>> On Mon, 24 Mar 2003 15:54:45 -0500, >> Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > I did not vote in this election. I know who I'd have voted for, if > I did vote, but I'm struggling with some more fundamental issues. The polls are not yet closed. > More generally, most Debian decisi

integrity of elections

2003-03-24 Thread Raul Miller
I did not vote in this election. I know who I'd have voted for, if I did vote, but I'm struggling with some more fundamental issues. More generally, most Debian decisions have been made by an "activist elite". So far, that's seemed to work fairly well -- perhaps because of our charter, we've be