Hi,
On Fri, Feb 4, 2022 at 9:22 PM Don Armstrong wrote:
>
> That said, if a majority uses the blunt force of §4.1.7 to try to get
> its way by removing people, I'd be more concerned about the health of
> the project than whether we had written rules to prevent it.
I'd be more concerned about the
On Fri, Feb 11, 2022 at 02:30:53PM +0100, Philip Hands wrote:
> My reason (and maybe Holger's too) is I'd say that there is no
> possibility of guaranteeing real permanent absolute secrecy in a vote
> that we can practically conduct over the Internet (at least, not one
> where the results are also
Holger Levsen writes:
> On Sun, Jan 30, 2022 at 03:58:50PM +, Holger Levsen roughly wrote:
>> On Sat, Jan 29, 2022 at 03:22:24PM -0700, Sam Hartman wrote:
>> > In my proposal all ballots would be secret, and the secretary would not
>> > make a determination about that.
>> what's the definitio
On Sun, Jan 30, 2022 at 03:58:50PM +, Holger Levsen roughly wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 29, 2022 at 03:22:24PM -0700, Sam Hartman wrote:
> > In my proposal all ballots would be secret, and the secretary would not
> > make a determination about that.
> what's the definition of 'secret' here?
I'd still
Sam Hartman writes:
> I plan to release a complete proposal for secret ballots including the
> proposed 4.1.8 within the next couple of days.
> Is
> https://salsa.debian.org/rra/webwml/-/commit/3f0f679ae97095915eea4b7299f16d74874c80da
> my best starting point for a diff?
You should now start fr
I plan to release a complete proposal for secret ballots including the
proposed 4.1.8 within the next couple of days.
Is
https://salsa.debian.org/rra/webwml/-/commit/3f0f679ae97095915eea4b7299f16d74874c80da
my best starting point for a diff?
> "Don" == Don Armstrong writes:
Don> On F
On Fri, 04 Feb 2022, Sam Hartman wrote:
> I see two ways of reading section 4.1.7:
>
> 1) If the DPL and secretary disagree on any issue then the project can
> replace the secretary.
>
> 2) If the DPL and secretary disagree on the only issue where the two
> of them both get to have an opinion (na
Replying to two messages:
Russ> The question this raises for me is who runs the vote to decide whether to
Russ> override the Project Secretary? I would completely trust Kurt to run
that
Russ> vote, but in the general case the Project Secretary running a vote on
Russ> whether to override the
Hi Sam,
On Sat, Jan 29, 2022 at 03:22:24PM -0700, Sam Hartman wrote:
> In my proposal all ballots would be secret, and the secretary would not
> make a determination about that.
how do you define 'secret' here?
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cheers,
Holger
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> "Jean-Philippe" == Jean-Philippe MENGUAL writes:
Jean-Philippe> secret vote does not make part of them, if I remember
Jean-Philippe> correctly the constitution and the debate, so the
Jean-Philippe> debate was about intrepreting the text about this.
The specific question that ros
On Sat, 29 Jan 2022, Sam Hartman wrote:
> So, to be specific, I propose to add a paragraph 8 to section 4.1
> (powers of the developers):
>
> 8. Override a decision of the secretary. Overriding the secretary's
>determination of the majority required for a ballot option or
>over
Hi,
Personally I am not sure that the secretary needs a challenging process,
given how he/she/they is chosen and how the general vote process works.
However, when he/she/they needs to take a decision, it is because the
constitution enables him/her/them to do it, for defined situations. The
qu
Sam Hartman writes:
> So, to be specific, I propose to add a paragraph 8 to section 4.1
> (powers of the developers):
> 8. Override a decision of the secretary. Overriding the secretary's
>determination of the majority required for a ballot option or
>overriding the determina
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