Re: SC changes

2004-04-02 Thread Andreas Barth
* Thomas Bushnell, BSG ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [040402 07:10]: > So, can we discuss the different sections separately, and then perhaps > replace the current proposals (much of which I do like) with > section-by-section consideration, so that we can get each section as > good as possible? I'd certai

Re: SC changes

2004-04-02 Thread Andreas Barth
* Thomas Bushnell, BSG ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [040402 07:10]: > So, can we discuss the different sections separately, and then perhaps > replace the current proposals (much of which I do like) with > section-by-section consideration, so that we can get each section as > good as possible? I'd certai

Re: SC changes

2004-04-01 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Don Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I gathered that you were interested in seeing the vote split up into > multiple votes on every single section because you weren't happy with > the amendment in total rather than inviting a discussion on the > perceived issue(s) with different section(s)

Re: SC changes

2004-04-01 Thread Don Armstrong
[Yet again, I'm subscribed to -vote. Do *NOT* Cc: me.[1]] On Thu, 01 Apr 2004, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: > I don't have the arrogance to just declare "this is the best way" > without hearing discussion, which is what I was trying to invite. > > Sadly, Debian seems to head for the meta-discussion

Re: SC changes

2004-04-01 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Don Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > If you only like specific parts of a proposal, and there are enough > people who share you viewpoint for it to matter (6 people to second > your proposal) then you just need to propose an amendment > incorporating the parts you like and removing the part

Re: SC changes

2004-04-01 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Sat, Mar 27, 2004 at 10:16:59AM +0100, Michael Banck wrote: > On Fri, Mar 26, 2004 at 10:57:17PM -0800, Don Armstrong wrote: > > On Fri, 26 Mar 2004, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: > > > Of course there are interactions between, but there are several > > > discrete proposals in each of the two vers

Re: SC changes

2004-04-01 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Don Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I gathered that you were interested in seeing the vote split up into > multiple votes on every single section because you weren't happy with > the amendment in total rather than inviting a discussion on the > perceived issue(s) with different section(s)

Re: SC changes

2004-04-01 Thread Don Armstrong
[Yet again, I'm subscribed to -vote. Do *NOT* Cc: me.[1]] On Thu, 01 Apr 2004, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: > I don't have the arrogance to just declare "this is the best way" > without hearing discussion, which is what I was trying to invite. > > Sadly, Debian seems to head for the meta-discussion

Re: SC changes

2004-04-01 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Don Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > If you only like specific parts of a proposal, and there are enough > people who share you viewpoint for it to matter (6 people to second > your proposal) then you just need to propose an amendment > incorporating the parts you like and removing the part

Re: SC changes

2004-04-01 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Sat, Mar 27, 2004 at 10:16:59AM +0100, Michael Banck wrote: > On Fri, Mar 26, 2004 at 10:57:17PM -0800, Don Armstrong wrote: > > On Fri, 26 Mar 2004, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: > > > Of course there are interactions between, but there are several > > > discrete proposals in each of the two vers

Re: SC changes

2004-03-27 Thread Don Armstrong
[Please follow Debian list policy and refrain from Cc:'ing me.] On Sat, 27 Mar 2004, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: > The voting process as I understand it forces me to vote for complete > alternative proposals, not partial amendments. Sortof. It requires the former, but you can use the sytem to ac

Re: SC changes

2004-03-27 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Don Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Oh, sure. I'm just saying that there's no need to split this into > multiple separate votes when people who don't like certain aspects of > a proposal can merely suggest changes to the proposal and/or submit > amendments for seconding. [Andrew can pick a

Re: SC changes

2004-03-27 Thread Don Armstrong
[Please follow Debian list policy and refrain from Cc:'ing me.] On Sat, 27 Mar 2004, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: > The voting process as I understand it forces me to vote for complete > alternative proposals, not partial amendments. Sortof. It requires the former, but you can use the sytem to ac

Re: SC changes

2004-03-27 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Don Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Oh, sure. I'm just saying that there's no need to split this into > multiple separate votes when people who don't like certain aspects of > a proposal can merely suggest changes to the proposal and/or submit > amendments for seconding. [Andrew can pick a

Re: SC changes

2004-03-27 Thread Don Armstrong
On Sat, 27 Mar 2004, Michael Banck wrote: > I don't see a problem with asking Andrew whether he'd be willing to > do modify his proposal, if he sees the merit of othere people's > comments. If he does not like it, amendments can still be > formulated, but there's no need to clutter the ballot witho

Re: SC changes

2004-03-27 Thread Don Armstrong
On Sat, 27 Mar 2004, Michael Banck wrote: > I don't see a problem with asking Andrew whether he'd be willing to > do modify his proposal, if he sees the merit of othere people's > comments. If he does not like it, amendments can still be > formulated, but there's no need to clutter the ballot witho

Re: SC changes

2004-03-27 Thread Michael Banck
On Fri, Mar 26, 2004 at 10:57:17PM -0800, Don Armstrong wrote: > On Fri, 26 Mar 2004, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: > > Of course there are interactions between, but there are several > > discrete proposals in each of the two version of changes, and I > > might like some and not others. I would hate

Re: SC changes

2004-03-27 Thread Michael Banck
On Fri, Mar 26, 2004 at 10:57:17PM -0800, Don Armstrong wrote: > On Fri, 26 Mar 2004, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: > > Of course there are interactions between, but there are several > > discrete proposals in each of the two version of changes, and I > > might like some and not others. I would hate

Re: SC changes

2004-03-27 Thread Don Armstrong
On Fri, 26 Mar 2004, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: > Of course there are interactions between, but there are several > discrete proposals in each of the two version of changes, and I > might like some and not others. I would hate to have to vote > against the ones I like just because they are tied t

Re: SC changes

2004-03-27 Thread Andreas Barth
* Thomas Bushnell, BSG ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [040327 05:25]: > I think we should handle changes to each section separately. Sounds like a good idea. Cheers, Andi -- http://home.arcor.de/andreas-barth/ PGP 1024/89FB5CE5 DC F1 85 6D A6 45 9C 0F 3B BE F1 D0 C5 D1 D9 0C

Re: SC changes

2004-03-26 Thread Don Armstrong
On Fri, 26 Mar 2004, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: > Of course there are interactions between, but there are several > discrete proposals in each of the two version of changes, and I > might like some and not others. I would hate to have to vote > against the ones I like just because they are tied t

Re: SC changes

2004-03-26 Thread Andreas Barth
* Thomas Bushnell, BSG ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [040327 05:25]: > I think we should handle changes to each section separately. Sounds like a good idea. Cheers, Andi -- http://home.arcor.de/andreas-barth/ PGP 1024/89FB5CE5 DC F1 85 6D A6 45 9C 0F 3B BE F1 D0 C5 D1 D9 0C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, e