Re: Restated Amendment: We Choose Wording of the Day

2015-09-17 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 04:19:54PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > Hi Kurt, > > On Wed, Sep 09, 2015 at 12:34:15PM +0200, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 09, 2015 at 08:49:03AM +0100, Philip Hands wrote: > > > I second the below amendment. > > > > I think that makes 5 second now, so I'll updat

Re: Restated Amendment: We Choose Wording of the Day

2015-09-17 Thread Wouter Verhelst
Hi Kurt, On Wed, Sep 09, 2015 at 12:34:15PM +0200, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > On Wed, Sep 09, 2015 at 08:49:03AM +0100, Philip Hands wrote: > > I second the below amendment. > > I think that makes 5 second now, so I'll update the page with it > later. It's now over a week since that mail, and the vote

Re: Restated Amendment: We Choose Wording of the Day

2015-09-09 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Wed, Sep 09, 2015 at 07:30:43AM -0400, Sam Hartman wrote: > > "Kurt" == Kurt Roeckx writes: > Kurt> I really wish Andreas at least fixed the text of his > Kurt> resolution, I really don't want to hold a vote on a text > Kurt> that's not clear. > > So, you're hoping he would sta

Re: Restated Amendment: We Choose Wording of the Day

2015-09-09 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Kurt" == Kurt Roeckx writes: Kurt> I really wish Andreas at least fixed the text of his Kurt> resolution, I really don't want to hold a vote on a text Kurt> that's not clear. So, you're hoping he would state things in terms of a diff or something a lot closer to a diff? Basical

Re: Restated Amendment: We Choose Wording of the Day

2015-09-09 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Tue, Sep 08, 2015 at 11:58:33PM +, Sam Hartman wrote: > Hi. It's not clear that my amendment with a minimal change has quite > enough support to be on the ballot. > > > would people be comfortable waiting a day or two more to see if we get > any more seconds and if not, then just going fo

Re: Restated Amendment: We Choose Wording of the Day

2015-09-09 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Wed, Sep 09, 2015 at 08:49:03AM +0100, Philip Hands wrote: > I second the below amendment. I think that makes 5 second now, so I'll update the page with it later. Kurt

Re: Restated Amendment: We Choose Wording of the Day

2015-09-09 Thread Philip Hands
I second the below amendment. BTW I seconded Andreas's original GR too, but am persuaded by this so would like to see it on the ballot. Sam Hartman writes: > Restated to fix comments received. > For formality, to the extent that I am able, I withdraw my previous > amendment. > > As I discussed,

Re: Restated Amendment: We Choose Wording of the Day

2015-09-08 Thread Scott Kitterman
Yes. that's the one I recalled that I liked. Seconded. Scott K On Wednesday, September 09, 2015 01:08:39 AM Sam Hartman wrote: > See https://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2015/09/msg00016.html > for the message to second if you choose to do that. > Rationale copied below. > > > As I discussed

Re: Restated Amendment: We Choose Wording of the Day

2015-09-08 Thread Sam Hartman
See https://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2015/09/msg00016.html for the message to second if you choose to do that. Rationale copied below. As I discussed, in Andreas's resolution, I think that the strategic voting fix introduces more problems than it serves. INstead, I propose that we don't fix

Re: Restated Amendment: We Choose Wording of the Day

2015-09-08 Thread Scott Kitterman
For those of us that lost track, would you please restate your option? I seem to remember liking it. Scott K On September 8, 2015 7:58:33 PM EDT, Sam Hartman wrote: >Hi. It's not clear that my amendment with a minimal change has quite >enough support to be on the ballot. > > >would people be

Re: Restated Amendment: We Choose Wording of the Day

2015-09-08 Thread Sam Hartman
Hi. It's not clear that my amendment with a minimal change has quite enough support to be on the ballot. would people be comfortable waiting a day or two more to see if we get any more seconds and if not, then just going forward with the one ballot option? --Sam

Re: Restated Amendment: We Choose Wording of the Day

2015-09-07 Thread Didier 'OdyX' Raboud
Le vendredi, 4 septembre 2015, 14.28:20 Sam Hartman a écrit : > Specifically, I formally propose to replace the GR text with: > >- GENERAL RESOLUTION STARTS - > > >Constitutional Amendment: TC Supermajority Fix > >Prior to the Clone Proof SSD GR in June 2003, the Technical >

Re: Restated Amendment: We Choose Wording of the Day

2015-09-04 Thread Jakub Wilk
* Sam Hartman , 2015-09-04, 14:28: - GENERAL RESOLUTION STARTS - Constitutional Amendment: TC Supermajority Fix Prior to the Clone Proof SSD GR in June 2003, the Technical Committee could overrule a Developer with a supermajority of 3:1. Unfortunately, the definition of supe

Re: Restated Amendment: We Choose Wording of the Day

2015-09-04 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Fri, Sep 04, 2015 at 05:34:44PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > However, as I've said in <20150903164145.gb23...@grep.be>, I think the > better fix is to update 6.1.4 as follows: > > -4. Overrule a Developer (requires a 3:1 majority) > +4. Overrule a Developer (requires a 2:1 majority)

Re: Restated Amendment: We Choose Wording of the Day

2015-09-04 Thread Wouter Verhelst
Hi Sam, On Fri, Sep 04, 2015 at 02:28:20PM +, Sam Hartman wrote: >- GENERAL RESOLUTION STARTS - > > >Constitutional Amendment: TC Supermajority Fix > >Prior to the Clone Proof SSD GR in June 2003, the Technical >Committee could overrule a Developer with a supermajori

Re: Restated Amendment: We Choose Wording of the Day

2015-09-04 Thread Sam Hartman
Restated to fix comments received. For formality, to the extent that I am able, I withdraw my previous amendment. As I discussed, in Andreas's resolution, I think that the strategic voting fix introduces more problems than it serves. INstead, I propose that we don't fix that, but trust ourselves