On Fri, Nov 15, 2002 at 09:39:18PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 15, 2002 at 01:32:27PM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote:
> > please do not second this amendment until & unless JG's proposed GR
> > gains enough support to require a vote.
>
> FYI: if John accepts your amendment, it doesn't
On Fri, Nov 15, 2002 at 09:39:18PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 15, 2002 at 01:32:27PM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote:
> > please do not second this amendment until & unless JG's proposed GR
> > gains enough support to require a vote.
>
> FYI: if John accepts your amendment, it doesn't
On Fri, Nov 15, 2002 at 01:32:27PM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote:
> please do not second this amendment until & unless JG's proposed GR
> gains enough support to require a vote.
FYI: if John accepts your amendment, it doesn't need seconds.[1]
[1] Constitution A.1.2
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G. Branden Robinson
On Fri, Nov 15, 2002 at 01:32:27PM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote:
> please do not second this amendment until & unless JG's proposed GR
> gains enough support to require a vote.
FYI: if John accepts your amendment, it doesn't need seconds.[1]
[1] Constitution A.1.2
--
G. Branden Robinson
On Fri, Nov 15, 2002 at 02:13:00PM +, Andrew Suffield wrote:
> In the event that this counter-amendment should become active, I
> propose the following amendment to it, replacing its complete text:
>
> "Craig Sanders is a louse, and shall be crushed by a falling cow."
I'd first have to see th
* Andrew Suffield ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote :
> [Idiotic Cc: deleted]
>
> On Fri, Nov 15, 2002 at 01:32:27PM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote:
> > On Sun, Nov 10, 2002 at 07:21:34PM -0600, John Goerzen wrote:
> > > Pursuant to Appendix A of the Debian Constitution and the guidelines
> > > offered at htt
[Idiotic Cc: deleted]
On Fri, Nov 15, 2002 at 01:32:27PM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 10, 2002 at 07:21:34PM -0600, John Goerzen wrote:
> > Pursuant to Appendix A of the Debian Constitution and the guidelines
> > offered at http://www.debian.org/vote/howto_proposal, I hereby offer
> >
On Fri, Nov 15, 2002 at 02:13:00PM +, Andrew Suffield wrote:
> In the event that this counter-amendment should become active, I
> propose the following amendment to it, replacing its complete text:
>
> "Craig Sanders is a louse, and shall be crushed by a falling cow."
I'd first have to see th
* Andrew Suffield ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote :
> [Idiotic Cc: deleted]
>
> On Fri, Nov 15, 2002 at 01:32:27PM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote:
> > On Sun, Nov 10, 2002 at 07:21:34PM -0600, John Goerzen wrote:
> > > Pursuant to Appendix A of the Debian Constitution and the guidelines
> > > offered at htt
[Idiotic Cc: deleted]
On Fri, Nov 15, 2002 at 01:32:27PM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 10, 2002 at 07:21:34PM -0600, John Goerzen wrote:
> > Pursuant to Appendix A of the Debian Constitution and the guidelines
> > offered at http://www.debian.org/vote/howto_proposal, I hereby offer
> >
On Sun, Nov 10, 2002 at 07:21:34PM -0600, John Goerzen wrote:
> Pursuant to Appendix A of the Debian Constitution and the guidelines
> offered at http://www.debian.org/vote/howto_proposal, I hereby offer
> the following draft proposal as the beginning of a General Resolution
> process to decide thi
On Sun, Nov 10, 2002 at 07:21:34PM -0600, John Goerzen wrote:
> Pursuant to Appendix A of the Debian Constitution and the guidelines
> offered at http://www.debian.org/vote/howto_proposal, I hereby offer
> the following draft proposal as the beginning of a General Resolution
> process to decide thi
I accept Branden's amendment.
On Tue, Nov 12, 2002 at 04:48:04AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
> I would like to a very minor amendment to this proposal. I will not
> withdraw my second if you elect not to accept it.
>
> > D. That the maintainer of the Debian Policy Manual, or an appointee of
>
I accept Branden's amendment.
On Tue, Nov 12, 2002 at 04:48:04AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
> I would like to a very minor amendment to this proposal. I will not
> withdraw my second if you elect not to accept it.
>
> > D. That the maintainer of the Debian Policy Manual, or an appointee of
>
On Sun, Nov 10, 2002 at 07:21:34PM -0600, John Goerzen wrote:
> Pursuant to Appendix A of the Debian Constitution and the guidelines offered
> at http://www.debian.org/vote/howto_proposal, I hereby offer the following
> draft proposal as the beginning of a General Resolution process to decide
> thi
On Sun, Nov 10, 2002 at 07:21:34PM -0600, John Goerzen wrote:
> Pursuant to Appendix A of the Debian Constitution and the guidelines offered
> at http://www.debian.org/vote/howto_proposal, I hereby offer the following
> draft proposal as the beginning of a General Resolution process to decide
> thi
>>"John" == John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
John> On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 02:17:10PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>> No, we actually went to having a GR proposed, wich is still
>> alive, though currently on hold waiting for the voting GR.
John> My understanding was that the previou
On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 02:17:10PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> No, we actually went to having a GR proposed, wich is still
> alive, though currently on hold waiting for the voting GR.
My understanding was that the previous GR was considered expired under
section A(5) of the Constituti
>>"John" == John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
John> On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 02:29:30PM -0500, Raul Miller wrote:
>> I recommend we table this until we've resolved a couple ambiguities:
John> I am happy to wait to issue the formal call for votes until
John> prerequisites have been sorte
>>"Raul" == Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Raul> On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 03:21:29AM +0100, Peter Palfrader wrote:
>> I wonder what kind of majority is required to modify the Social Contract
>> or the DFSG. I'ld expect them to have at least the same protection as
>> the Constitution it
On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 02:29:30PM -0500, Raul Miller wrote:
> I recommend we table this until we've resolved a couple ambiguities:
I am happy to wait to issue the formal call for votes until prerequisites
have been sorted out, assuming that the time to do so is not unreasable and
progress is bein
>>"John" == John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
John> On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 02:17:10PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>> No, we actually went to having a GR proposed, wich is still
>> alive, though currently on hold waiting for the voting GR.
John> My understanding was that the previou
I recommend we table this until we've resolved a couple ambiguities:
[1] How do we vote on ballots which mix supermajority and
non-supermajority issues?
[2] Is the social contract a supermajority issue or not?
We've currently got a draft on [1], and I need to update it. I apologize
for being so
On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 03:21:29AM +0100, Peter Palfrader wrote:
> I wonder what kind of majority is required to modify the Social Contract
> or the DFSG. I'ld expect them to have at least the same protection as
> the Constitution itself.
In fact, the social contract has never been ratified under
On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 02:17:10PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> No, we actually went to having a GR proposed, wich is still
> alive, though currently on hold waiting for the voting GR.
My understanding was that the previous GR was considered expired under
section A(5) of the Constituti
>>"John" == John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
John> On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 02:29:30PM -0500, Raul Miller wrote:
>> I recommend we table this until we've resolved a couple ambiguities:
John> I am happy to wait to issue the formal call for votes until
John> prerequisites have been sorte
>>"Raul" == Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Raul> On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 03:21:29AM +0100, Peter Palfrader wrote:
>> I wonder what kind of majority is required to modify the Social Contract
>> or the DFSG. I'ld expect them to have at least the same protection as
>> the Constitution it
On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 02:29:30PM -0500, Raul Miller wrote:
> I recommend we table this until we've resolved a couple ambiguities:
I am happy to wait to issue the formal call for votes until prerequisites
have been sorted out, assuming that the time to do so is not unreasable and
progress is bein
I recommend we table this until we've resolved a couple ambiguities:
[1] How do we vote on ballots which mix supermajority and
non-supermajority issues?
[2] Is the social contract a supermajority issue or not?
We've currently got a draft on [1], and I need to update it. I apologize
for being so
On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 03:21:29AM +0100, Peter Palfrader wrote:
> I wonder what kind of majority is required to modify the Social Contract
> or the DFSG. I'ld expect them to have at least the same protection as
> the Constitution itself.
In fact, the social contract has never been ratified under
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John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Pursuant to Appendix A of the Debian Constitution and the guidelines offered
> at http://www.debian.org/vote/howto_proposal, I hereby offer the following
> draft proposal as the beginning of a General Resolut
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John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Pursuant to Appendix A of the Debian Constitution and the guidelines offered
> at http://www.debian.org/vote/howto_proposal, I hereby offer the following
> draft proposal as the beginning of a General Resolut
On Sun, 10 Nov 2002, John Goerzen wrote:
> F. That a new version of the Debian Social Contract with the Free
> Software Community be released, with the same content as the
> existing version, save for the following amendments:
I wonder what kind of majority is required to modify the Social Contra
On Sun, Nov 10, 2002 at 07:21:34PM -0600, John Goerzen wrote:
> Pursuant to Appendix A of the Debian Constitution and the guidelines offered
> at http://www.debian.org/vote/howto_proposal, I hereby offer the following
> draft proposal as the beginning of a General Resolution process to decide
> thi
On Sun, 10 Nov 2002, John Goerzen wrote:
> F. That a new version of the Debian Social Contract with the Free
> Software Community be released, with the same content as the
> existing version, save for the following amendments:
I wonder what kind of majority is required to modify the Social Contra
On Sun, Nov 10, 2002 at 07:21:34PM -0600, John Goerzen wrote:
> Pursuant to Appendix A of the Debian Constitution and the guidelines offered
> at http://www.debian.org/vote/howto_proposal, I hereby offer the following
> draft proposal as the beginning of a General Resolution process to decide
> thi
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