On Sat, Mar 12, 2005 at 04:44:19AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
> martin f krafft wrote:
>> Anyway, how are you going to ensure that we don't scream at each
>> other over VoIP lines? Traffic control? :)
> High frequency filtering? :)
No, come on, this would be discriminatory for women, youth and
martin f krafft wrote:
Anyway, how are you going to ensure that we don't scream at each
other over VoIP lines? Traffic control? :)
High frequency filtering? :)
Cheers,
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also sprach Angus Lees <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.03.11.1007 +0100]:
> As a general strategy, I'd like to move a lot of the actual discussion
> off the mailing lists and into some higher bandwidth, higher turnover
> medium.
You seem to imply moving from asynchronous to synchronous media. How
are y
At Thu, 10 Mar 2005 03:43:48 +0100, martin f krafft wrote:
> > My sincere apologies for the delay.
> Note up front: I have not yet looked at your platform.
[...]
> Could you please state in public that you did not use the delay in
> any way to gain an advantage by looking over the others' platforms
Dear Angus:
In your platform, you state:
> I have a few ideas about how to improve communication within Debian
> and I will try to bring an attitude of tolerance and more efficient
> communication to the mailing lists.
Could you please be more specific and give us more details about
these ideas?
also sprach Angus Lees <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.03.08.0419 +0100]:
> Now available at http://people.debian.org/~gus/dpl-platform.html
>
> My sincere apologies for the delay.
Note up front: I have not yet looked at your platform.
I am the first to understand what it means to be hit by deadlines.
On Wed, Mar 09, 2005 at 11:14:26AM +0100, Michael Banck wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 09, 2005 at 12:54:47AM -0600, Ean Schuessler wrote:
> > Oh. Ooops. I'm not running for DPL am I? Uh, will one of you guys add
> > "database of free software capable equipment" to your platform? I'll help
> > write it.
>
Op wo, 09-03-2005 te 09:00 +, schreef Henning Makholm:
> Scripsit Angus Lees <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > I'm concerned that the long-term goal is going to suffer by forcing
> > users to make the choice between (a) going somewhere else or (b)
> > exposing themselves to poorly supported software from
I'm saying the goal is widespread adoption of free software and its
ideals. We should tread carefully; if we alienate too many people
along the way we don't do our cause any favours.
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* Angus Lees <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [050309 05:18]:
> What I'm trying to say is that by
> removing all these things from main (imo) too quickly and too early,
> we have instead *encouraged* all our users to use non-free.
So non-free is evil, but non-free software is necessary. Thus we should
allow ou
Scripsit Angus Lees <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To give a concrete example: My laptop has an extremely comon centrino
> (ipw2200) wireless card. To support this card under Debian/Linux, I
> need to install packages from contrib and download a firmware blob by
> hand. To simply have the HTML4 specifica
On Wed, Mar 09, 2005 at 12:54:47AM -0600, Ean Schuessler wrote:
> Oh. Ooops. I'm not running for DPL am I? Uh, will one of you guys add
> "database of free software capable equipment" to your platform? I'll help
> write it.
Just do it[tm]. You don't need a platform, vote or anything for that.
I have the same God-forsaken wireless card in my laptop. In this day and age
where there are dozens of 10Mbit wireless cores out there I managed to get
suckered into buying a Centrino because Intel was deceptive about their
support for Linux. Rather than bending our sensibilities to appease thes
Right, we seem to agree quite well on the separation of the DPL's
personal opinions and the actions he should perform as DPL. So your
concerns seem to boil down to two things:
- You are not sure what I (personally) want to change about Debian.
- You are concerned that I may (as DPL) want to und
> > Moreover, I may be wrong, but since you took so many time (wrt
> > othere candidates) to write your platform, I was hoping to read a
> > wonderful thing, full of ideas, directions, ... And what I read in
> > 2 minutes, 10 minutes ago, made me feel deceived
>
> I'm not sure what to say to this;
At Tue, 8 Mar 2005 07:24:59 +0100, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
> Le Mar 8 Mars 2005 04:19, Angus Lees a écrit :
> > Now available at http://people.debian.org/~gus/dpl-platform.html
> Anyway, I have a couple of questions for you :
Sure.
> I quote you here :
>
> » I try not to spend too much time on
Le Mar 8 Mars 2005 04:19, Angus Lees a Ãcrit :
> Now available at http://people.debian.org/~gus/dpl-platform.html
First, just note that IANADD (even if I'm not that far from it [1]).
Anyway, I have a couple of questions for you :
I quote you here :
 I try not to spend too much time on email
On 23-Feb-01, 05:02 (CST), Wichert Akkerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Can you explain why? Compare it for example with judges in (afaik) all
> legal systems. They are also not changed when the government changes
> after an election.
Actually, in Texas (and some other states, I believe), judges
On Sat, Feb 24, 2001 at 12:39:17PM +0100, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote:
> >> Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > I'd like to see a list containing that information. If elected DPL, I
> > would attempt to ensure that we have one.
>
> "If elected DPL". That's... enlightening.
I've
On 23-Feb-01, 05:02 (CST), Wichert Akkerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Can you explain why? Compare it for example with judges in (afaik) all
> legal systems. They are also not changed when the government changes
> after an election.
Actually, in Texas (and some other states, I believe), judge
On Sat, Feb 24, 2001 at 12:39:17PM +0100, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote:
> >> Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > I'd like to see a list containing that information. If elected DPL, I
> > would attempt to ensure that we have one.
>
> "If elected DPL". That's... enlightening.
I'v
>> Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I'd like to see a list containing that information. If elected DPL, I
> would attempt to ensure that we have one.
"If elected DPL". That's... enlightening.
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>> Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I'd like to see a list containing that information. If elected DPL, I
> would attempt to ensure that we have one.
"If elected DPL". That's... enlightening.
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On Fri, Feb 23, 2001 at 04:52:00PM -0500, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 23, 2001 at 01:28:17PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
>
> > On Fri, Feb 23, 2001 at 12:02:42PM +0100, Wichert Akkerman wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm offline at the moment and the exact URL escapes me, but this list is
> > > on
On Fri, Feb 23, 2001 at 01:28:17PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 23, 2001 at 12:02:42PM +0100, Wichert Akkerman wrote:
> >
> > I'm offline at the moment and the exact URL escapes me, but this list is
> > on www.debian.org and was created about 2 yaers ago.
> [...]
> > Release manag
On Fri, Feb 23, 2001 at 04:52:00PM -0500, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 23, 2001 at 01:28:17PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
>
> > On Fri, Feb 23, 2001 at 12:02:42PM +0100, Wichert Akkerman wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm offline at the moment and the exact URL escapes me, but this list is
> > > o
On Fri, Feb 23, 2001 at 01:28:17PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 23, 2001 at 12:02:42PM +0100, Wichert Akkerman wrote:
> >
> > I'm offline at the moment and the exact URL escapes me, but this list is
> > on www.debian.org and was created about 2 yaers ago.
> [...]
> > Release mana
On Fri, Feb 23, 2001 at 12:34:14PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> >>"Santiago" == Santiago Vila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Santiago> I can't accept that "people truly deserve to be insulted".
>
> Hmm. How about if we rephrase that "There are certain people
> who display personality
>>"Santiago" == Santiago Vila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Santiago> I can't accept that "people truly deserve to be insulted".
Hmm. How about if we rephrase that "There are certain people
who display personality and behaviour traits that are extremely
irritating to a majority of the ge
On Fri, Feb 23, 2001 at 12:02:42PM +0100, Wichert Akkerman wrote:
> Previously Branden Robinson wrote:
> > [please follow-up to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> No, follow-up to debian-vote, it was created for this purpose.
I thought it was supposed to be confined to the mechanics of actual voting,
which DP
On Fri, Feb 23, 2001 at 12:34:14PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> >>"Santiago" == Santiago Vila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Santiago> I can't accept that "people truly deserve to be insulted".
>
> Hmm. How about if we rephrase that "There are certain people
> who display personalit
>>"Santiago" == Santiago Vila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Santiago> I can't accept that "people truly deserve to be insulted".
Hmm. How about if we rephrase that "There are certain people
who display personality and behaviour traits that are extremely
irritating to a majority of the g
On Fri, Feb 23, 2001 at 12:02:42PM +0100, Wichert Akkerman wrote:
> Previously Branden Robinson wrote:
> > [please follow-up to [EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>
> No, follow-up to debian-vote, it was created for this purpose.
I thought it was supposed to be confined to the mechanics of actual voting,
which
> > Please try to refrain from flaming the candidates.
On Fri, Feb 23, 2001 at 07:22:09AM -0500, Zephaniah E. Hull wrote:
> Why should he?
Ok: please try to refrain from flaming anyone here.
Thanks,
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On Fri, Feb 23, 2001 at 06:44:06AM -0500, Raul Miller wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 23, 2001 at 11:40:33AM +0100, Santiago Vila wrote:
> > I for one want a DPL having a *minimum* of social skills, not one that
> > promises to have them *if* elected DPL, thanks.
>
> Please try to refrain from flaming the ca
On Fri, Feb 23, 2001 at 12:02:42PM +0100, Wichert Akkerman wrote:
> Previously Branden Robinson wrote:
> > [please follow-up to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> No, follow-up to debian-vote, it was created for this purpose.
seconded.
> > I cannot at present find a canonical list of current delegates.
> I'm of
Previously Branden Robinson wrote:
> [please follow-up to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
No, follow-up to debian-vote, it was created for this purpose.
> I cannot at present find a canonical list of current delegates.
I'm offline at the moment and the exact URL escapes me, but this list is
on www.debian.org
On Fri, Feb 23, 2001 at 11:40:33AM +0100, Santiago Vila wrote:
> I for one want a DPL having a *minimum* of social skills, not one that
> promises to have them *if* elected DPL, thanks.
Please try to refrain from flaming the candidates.
Thanks,
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On Fri, 23 Feb 2001, Craig Sanders wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 22, 2001 at 04:29:15PM +0100, Santiago Vila wrote:
> > Branden Robinson wrote:
> > > Nevertheless, if elected DPL, I realize that I turn the temperature
> > > down on my occasional email flame of a fellow developer. That's a
> > > sacrifice
> > Please try to refrain from flaming the candidates.
On Fri, Feb 23, 2001 at 07:22:09AM -0500, Zephaniah E. Hull wrote:
> Why should he?
Ok: please try to refrain from flaming anyone here.
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Brian Russo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Thu, Feb 22, 2001 at 04:15:19PM +, Jules Bean wrote:
> > On Thu, Feb 22, 2001 at 04:29:15PM +0100, Santiago Vila wrote:
> > > Branden Robinson wrote:
> > > > Nevertheless, if elected DPL, I realize that I turn the
> > > > temperature down on my occa
On Fri, Feb 23, 2001 at 06:44:06AM -0500, Raul Miller wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 23, 2001 at 11:40:33AM +0100, Santiago Vila wrote:
> > I for one want a DPL having a *minimum* of social skills, not one that
> > promises to have them *if* elected DPL, thanks.
>
> Please try to refrain from flaming the c
On Fri, Feb 23, 2001 at 12:02:42PM +0100, Wichert Akkerman wrote:
> Previously Branden Robinson wrote:
> > [please follow-up to [EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> No, follow-up to debian-vote, it was created for this purpose.
seconded.
> > I cannot at present find a canonical list of current delegates.
> I'm
Previously Branden Robinson wrote:
> [please follow-up to [EMAIL PROTECTED]]
No, follow-up to debian-vote, it was created for this purpose.
> I cannot at present find a canonical list of current delegates.
I'm offline at the moment and the exact URL escapes me, but this list is
on www.debian.or
On Fri, Feb 23, 2001 at 11:40:33AM +0100, Santiago Vila wrote:
> I for one want a DPL having a *minimum* of social skills, not one that
> promises to have them *if* elected DPL, thanks.
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On Fri, 23 Feb 2001, Craig Sanders wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 22, 2001 at 04:29:15PM +0100, Santiago Vila wrote:
> > Branden Robinson wrote:
> > > Nevertheless, if elected DPL, I realize that I turn the temperature
> > > down on my occasional email flame of a fellow developer. That's a
> > > sacrifice
Brian Russo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Thu, Feb 22, 2001 at 04:15:19PM +, Jules Bean wrote:
> > On Thu, Feb 22, 2001 at 04:29:15PM +0100, Santiago Vila wrote:
> > > Branden Robinson wrote:
> > > > Nevertheless, if elected DPL, I realize that I turn the
> > > > temperature down on my occ
On Thu, Feb 22, 2001 at 04:29:15PM +0100, Santiago Vila wrote:
> Branden Robinson wrote:
> > Nevertheless, if elected DPL, I realize that I turn the temperature
> > down on my occasional email flame of a fellow developer. That's a
> > sacrifice I'm willing to make.
>
> It's funny that someone who
On Thu, Feb 22, 2001 at 04:29:15PM +0100, Santiago Vila wrote:
> Branden Robinson wrote:
> > Nevertheless, if elected DPL, I realize that I turn the temperature
> > down on my occasional email flame of a fellow developer. That's a
> > sacrifice I'm willing to make.
>
> It's funny that someone wh
On Thu, Feb 22, 2001 at 04:15:19PM +, Jules Bean wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 22, 2001 at 04:29:15PM +0100, Santiago Vila wrote:
> > Branden Robinson wrote:
> > > Nevertheless, if elected DPL, I realize that I turn the temperature
> > > down on my occasional email flame of a fellow developer. That's a
On Thu, Feb 22, 2001 at 04:15:19PM +, Jules Bean wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 22, 2001 at 04:29:15PM +0100, Santiago Vila wrote:
> > Branden Robinson wrote:
> > > Nevertheless, if elected DPL, I realize that I turn the temperature
> > > down on my occasional email flame of a fellow developer. That's
On Thu, Feb 22, 2001 at 04:29:15PM +0100, Santiago Vila wrote:
> Branden Robinson wrote:
> > Nevertheless, if elected DPL, I realize that I turn the temperature
> > down on my occasional email flame of a fellow developer. That's a
> > sacrifice I'm willing to make.
>
> It's funny that someone who
Branden Robinson wrote:
> Nevertheless, if elected DPL, I realize that I turn the temperature
> down on my occasional email flame of a fellow developer. That's a
> sacrifice I'm willing to make.
It's funny that someone who wants to be the Project Leader uses the
word "sacrifice" here.
On Thu, Feb 22, 2001 at 04:29:15PM +0100, Santiago Vila wrote:
> Branden Robinson wrote:
> > Nevertheless, if elected DPL, I realize that I turn the temperature
> > down on my occasional email flame of a fellow developer. That's a
> > sacrifice I'm willing to make.
>
> It's funny that someone wh
Branden Robinson wrote:
> Nevertheless, if elected DPL, I realize that I turn the temperature
> down on my occasional email flame of a fellow developer. That's a
> sacrifice I'm willing to make.
It's funny that someone who wants to be the Project Leader uses the
word "sacrifice" here.
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