On Thu, Mar 08, 2007, Josip Rodin wrote:
> How much time do you generally have to read Debian-related e-mail?
> How much for the Debian mailing lists?
If you only mean "read", reading e-mail is a continuous process for
me and I don't know how much time it sums up to. About half of the
legitima
On Thu, Mar 08, 2007 at 03:30:18AM +0100, Josip Rodin wrote:
>Hi,
>
>How much time do you generally have to read Debian-related e-mail?
>How much for the Debian mailing lists?
I normally expect to read most of my Debian-related mail every day. I
read several of the lists directly in my inbox, and
On Thu, Mar 08, 2007 at 03:30:18AM +0100, Josip Rodin wrote:
> Hi,
>
> How much time do you generally have to read Debian-related e-mail?
Too much :)
> How much for the Debian mailing lists?
One hour up to a few hours per day.
> How many lists do you follow, and which ones do you pay real atte
Hi,
On Thu, 08 Mar 2007, Josip Rodin wrote:
> How much time do you generally have to read Debian-related e-mail?
> How much for the Debian mailing lists?
This really depends on my workload and in the interest that I have on the
discussions going on. I have an incoming folder for mails coming to
[
Hi,
How much time do you generally have to read Debian-related e-mail?
How much for the Debian mailing lists?
How many lists do you follow, and which ones do you pay real attention to?
Have you stopped following a Debian mailing list in the past, and if so,
what was the most important/common reas
On Sun, Mar 12, 2006 at 09:23:37PM -0300, Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
wrote:
They will definitely need to be Debian Developers.
With that in mind, you have just "kicked me off" the Volatile
Team. :-)
Non-DD contributors are important to Debian, and they deserve greater
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On 03/12/2006 06:09 PM, Ted Walther wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 08, 2006 at 10:22:54PM +0100, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote:
>> (all other candidates feel free to answer the questions as well.)
>> 1.) What is your opinion regarding the current status of
>> debian-
also sprach Ted Walther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.03.12.2209 +0100]:
> Who is on the current volatile team? They will definitely need to
> be Debian Developers.
How do you intend to work with all those hundreds of active
contributors who aren't yet DDs? Will you ignore them?
--
Please do not se
On Wed, Mar 08, 2006 at 10:22:54PM +0100, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote:
(all other candidates feel free to answer the questions as well.)
1.) What is your opinion regarding the current status of
debian-volatile?
I just looked it up today. I like the concept a lot.
2.) Do you think this services
On Wed, Mar 08, 2006 at 10:22:54PM +0100, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote:
> 1.) What is your opinion regarding the current status of debian-volatile?
> [...]
Please see the bottom of [1] for my opinion.
--Jeroen
[1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2006/03/msg00211.html
--
Jeroen van Wolffelaar
On Wed, Mar 08, 2006 at 10:22:54PM +0100, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote:
> 2.) Do you think this services should be made an official service of the
> debian project? Please give a reason for your answer.
I like to think of debian.net as an area where we experiment for things that
might or might not
This one time, at band camp, Martin Zobel-Helas said:
> Hi Ari,
>
> On Wednesday, 08 Mar 2006, you wrote:
> > Martin Zobel-Helas wrote:
> > >1.) What is your opinion regarding the current status of debian-volatile?
> > >... more questions about volatile ...
> >
> > Wasn't this just asked by Joey?
Martin Zobel-Helas wrote:
1.) What is your opinion regarding the current status of debian-volatile?
... more questions about volatile ...
Wasn't this just asked by Joey?
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Hi Ari,
On Wednesday, 08 Mar 2006, you wrote:
> Martin Zobel-Helas wrote:
> >1.) What is your opinion regarding the current status of debian-volatile?
> >... more questions about volatile ...
>
> Wasn't this just asked by Joey?
yes, in some parts. But as i consider myself as one of the
debian-v
On Sat, Mar 05, 2005 at 10:49:26PM +0900, Seo Sanghyeon wrote:
> The Debian Free Software Guidelines states that "The program must
> include source code".
>
> 1. How do you define "source code" yourself?
Any definition of source code, to be useful to the Debian Project in
applying our Free Softwa
On Sun, Mar 06, 2005 at 02:15:00PM -0800, Jonathan Walther wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 05, 2005 at 10:49:26PM +0900, Seo Sanghyeon wrote:
> >1. How do you define "source code" yourself?
>
> Like pornography, I know "source code" when I see it. There may be some
> edge cases where not everyone agrees wha
Seo Sanghyeon wrote:
The Debian Free Software Guidelines states that "The program must
include source code".
1. How do you define "source code" yourself?
It means different things in different contexts; for Debian's purposes
it means the stuff you need to modify then compile to produce the stuff
On Sat, Mar 05, 2005 at 10:49:26PM +0900, Seo Sanghyeon wrote:
1. How do you define "source code" yourself?
Like pornography, I know "source code" when I see it. There may be some
edge cases where not everyone agrees what constitutes source code, but
porn is like that too. Where do you draw the l
On Sat, Mar 05, 2005 at 10:49:26PM +0900, Seo Sanghyeon wrote:
> The Debian Free Software Guidelines states that "The program must
> include source code".
[...]
Your questions point out an interesting legal area which is still
under discussion in large parts of the FOSS world. An common
agreement
Hi,
Am Sonntag, den 06.03.2005, 15:10 + schrieb Matthew Garrett:
> > 6. Which of the following satisfies DFSG #2? What is the general
> >principle? Or should it be case-by-case?
>
> I'm not going to get into a case-by-case discussion, because I don't
> believe it to be interesting or rele
Seo Sanghyeon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 1. How do you define "source code" yourself?
I believe that source code is anything that allows us to learn how the
software works and modify it to function in different ways. In almost
all cases, the GPL's "preferred form for modification" will be sourc
On Sun, Mar 06, 2005 at 12:44:44AM +0100, Joachim Breitner wrote:
> Am Samstag, den 05.03.2005, 23:11 + schrieb Andrew Suffield:
> > On Sat, Mar 05, 2005 at 03:30:14PM +, Henning Makholm wrote:
> > > Indeed, I would be reluctant to vote for any candiate who would commit
> > > to twenty-four
Hi,
Am Samstag, den 05.03.2005, 23:11 + schrieb Andrew Suffield:
> On Sat, Mar 05, 2005 at 03:30:14PM +, Henning Makholm wrote:
> > Indeed, I would be reluctant to vote for any candiate who would commit
> > to twenty-four definite answers as part of his campaign, no matter
> > what the ans
On Sat, Mar 05, 2005 at 03:30:14PM +, Henning Makholm wrote:
> Indeed, I would be reluctant to vote for any candiate who would commit
> to twenty-four definite answers as part of his campaign, no matter
> what the answers were.
Or, for that matter, one who couldn't spot the fairly big hole in
Ha! This gets the official "best question so far" award. Especially the neural
network bit. That's rich.
On Saturday 05 March 2005 7:49 am, Seo Sanghyeon wrote:
> 6. Which of the following satisfies DFSG #2? What is the general
>principle? Or should it be case-by-case?
>
> * ELF binary witho
Scripsit Seo Sanghyeon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 6. Which of the following satisfies DFSG #2? What is the general
>principle? Or should it be case-by-case?
[snip TWENTY-FOUR semi-concrete examples]
However relevant and interesting it would be to get the candidates'
general opinion about the DFSG
The Debian Free Software Guidelines states that "The program must
include source code".
1. How do you define "source code" yourself?
2. I think that people have different ideas of what "source code" means.
Do you agree? Are there significant disagreements regarding this
issue within the Debi
Martin Michlmayr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I believe coordination is an active role. The paragraph I quoted
> above is from Branden who seems to define coordination in a way that
> "initiatives are executed by others". Perhaps he can clarify if this
> is what he meant to say.
I think it is
* Fabio Massimo Di Nitto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-03-20 07:17]:
> On Sat, 20 Mar 2004, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
> > > Especially if that leader's most valuable trait is coordination: the
> > > initiatives are executed by others, while the leader's role is simply in
> > ^^^
Martin Michlmayr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I believe coordination is an active role. The paragraph I quoted
> above is from Branden who seems to define coordination in a way that
> "initiatives are executed by others". Perhaps he can clarify if this
> is what he meant to say.
I think it is
On Sun, Mar 21, 2004 at 12:58:38PM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 20, 2004 at 11:49:55AM +1100, Daniel Stone wrote:
> > they're wrong. Where if someone slips up and gets a little
> > overenthusiastic,
>
> Err, you think that uploading a major new version of a major
> package is a slip
On Sat, Mar 20, 2004 at 11:49:55AM +1100, Daniel Stone wrote:
> they're wrong. Where if someone slips up and gets a little
> overenthusiastic,
Err, you think that uploading a major new version of a major
package is a slip up?
It seems a bit more deliberate than that to me.
Hamish
--
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* Fabio Massimo Di Nitto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-03-20 07:17]:
> On Sat, 20 Mar 2004, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
> > > Especially if that leader's most valuable trait is coordination: the
> > > initiatives are executed by others, while the leader's role is simply in
> > ^^^
On Sun, Mar 21, 2004 at 12:58:38PM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 20, 2004 at 11:49:55AM +1100, Daniel Stone wrote:
> > they're wrong. Where if someone slips up and gets a little
> > overenthusiastic,
>
> Err, you think that uploading a major new version of a major
> package is a slip
On Sat, Mar 20, 2004 at 11:49:55AM +1100, Daniel Stone wrote:
> they're wrong. Where if someone slips up and gets a little
> overenthusiastic,
Err, you think that uploading a major new version of a major
package is a slip up?
It seems a bit more deliberate than that to me.
Hamish
--
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On Sun, 21 Mar 2004, Daniel Stone wrote:
> YOU'RE AN IDIOT! CHUTUP MORMON
>
> (That, by the way, was sarcasm.)
lol :-) I would never take that seriously.. not from you at least :P
> I don't have any real position on the flames, just on the fact that
> Branden is incapable of working with quite a
On Sat, Mar 20, 2004 at 01:39:51PM +0100, Fabio Massimo Di Nitto wrote:
> On Sat, 20 Mar 2004, Daniel Stone wrote:
> > Yes, but had I disagreed with Branden, my opinion would've been noted
> > and very quickly discarded.
>
> I think we are going personal here and i don't like to (since i am sure i
On Sat, 20 Mar 2004, Daniel Stone wrote:
> > > The XSF is run as a Branden-centric 'team', whereby if someone doesn't
> > > agree with you, they're wrong.
> >
> > Personally I don't agree with you. An eg. that doesn't touch either you or
> > me directly:
> > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugrepor
On Sun, 21 Mar 2004, Daniel Stone wrote:
> YOU'RE AN IDIOT! CHUTUP MORMON
>
> (That, by the way, was sarcasm.)
lol :-) I would never take that seriously.. not from you at least :P
> I don't have any real position on the flames, just on the fact that
> Branden is incapable of working with quite a
On Sat, Mar 20, 2004 at 08:16:00AM +0100, Fabio Massimo Di Nitto wrote:
> On Sat, 20 Mar 2004, Daniel Stone wrote:
> > > Coordinating a project the size of Debian requires a very different set
> > > of skills than maintaining a large package, such as glibc.[1]
> > >
> > > ...or XFree86, the rea
On Sat, Mar 20, 2004 at 01:39:51PM +0100, Fabio Massimo Di Nitto wrote:
> On Sat, 20 Mar 2004, Daniel Stone wrote:
> > Yes, but had I disagreed with Branden, my opinion would've been noted
> > and very quickly discarded.
>
> I think we are going personal here and i don't like to (since i am sure i
On Sat, 20 Mar 2004, Daniel Stone wrote:
> > > The XSF is run as a Branden-centric 'team', whereby if someone doesn't
> > > agree with you, they're wrong.
> >
> > Personally I don't agree with you. An eg. that doesn't touch either you or
> > me directly:
> > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugrepor
On Sat, Mar 20, 2004 at 08:16:00AM +0100, Fabio Massimo Di Nitto wrote:
> On Sat, 20 Mar 2004, Daniel Stone wrote:
> > > Coordinating a project the size of Debian requires a very different set
> > > of skills than maintaining a large package, such as glibc.[1]
> > >
> > > ...or XFree86, the rea
On Sat, 20 Mar 2004, Daniel Stone wrote:
> > Coordinating a project the size of Debian requires a very different set
> > of skills than maintaining a large package, such as glibc.[1]
> >
> > ...or XFree86, the reader is surely invited to infer.
>
> The XSF is run as a Branden-centric 'team',
On Sat, 20 Mar 2004, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
> > Especially if that leader's most valuable trait is coordination: the
> > initiatives are executed by others, while the leader's role is simply in
> ^^
> > putting the right people together.
>
> Part of coordination
On Sat, 20 Mar 2004, Daniel Stone wrote:
> > Coordinating a project the size of Debian requires a very different set
> > of skills than maintaining a large package, such as glibc.[1]
> >
> > ...or XFree86, the reader is surely invited to infer.
>
> The XSF is run as a Branden-centric 'team',
On Sat, 20 Mar 2004, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
> > Especially if that leader's most valuable trait is coordination: the
> > initiatives are executed by others, while the leader's role is simply in
> ^^
> > putting the right people together.
>
> Part of coordination
On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 06:06:27PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 11, 2004 at 06:10:28PM +, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
> > I would go a step further and also ask how much Branden has achieved
> > of what he wrote in his platforms in the last years, and how much of
> > this has been d
* Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-03-12 13:39]:
> > > But, even more important than individual interactions is energy and
> > > drive.
> > >
> > I can only invite you to look at the work I've done for Debian over
> > the last years. You'll see a high level of commitment and energy.
>
* Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-03-19 18:06]:
> > I certainly hope that people will ask themselves whether I have been
> > productive as DPL. The following questions you raised are all valid,
> > and they are questions I have constantly asked myself throughout the
> > year in order to
On Thu, Mar 11, 2004 at 06:10:28PM +, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
> * Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-03-09 00:57]:
[...]
> I certainly hope that people will ask themselves whether I have been
> productive as DPL. The following questions you raised are all valid,
> and they are question
On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 06:06:27PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 11, 2004 at 06:10:28PM +, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
> > I would go a step further and also ask how much Branden has achieved
> > of what he wrote in his platforms in the last years, and how much of
> > this has been d
* Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-03-12 13:39]:
> > > But, even more important than individual interactions is energy and
> > > drive.
> > >
> > I can only invite you to look at the work I've done for Debian over
> > the last years. You'll see a high level of commitment and energy.
>
* Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-03-19 18:06]:
> > I certainly hope that people will ask themselves whether I have been
> > productive as DPL. The following questions you raised are all valid,
> > and they are questions I have constantly asked myself throughout the
> > year in order to
On Thu, Mar 04, 2004 at 09:03:17AM +0100, Marc Haber wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Andreas has asked a lot of the questions that I intended to ask as
> well, so I only need to amend one question he asked.
Sorry for the delay in replying. Your amended question was a doozy! :)
> 2a. Do you see the concentrat
On Thu, Mar 11, 2004 at 06:10:28PM +, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
> * Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-03-09 00:57]:
[...]
> I certainly hope that people will ask themselves whether I have been
> productive as DPL. The following questions you raised are all valid,
> and they are question
On Thu, Mar 04, 2004 at 09:03:17AM +0100, Marc Haber wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Andreas has asked a lot of the questions that I intended to ask as
> well, so I only need to amend one question he asked.
Sorry for the delay in replying. Your amended question was a doozy! :)
> 2a. Do you see the concentrat
On Thu, Mar 11, 2004 at 08:05:04PM +, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
> * Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-03-11 13:52]:
> > But, even more important than individual interactions is energy and
> > drive.
> >
> > That's what I'm still trying to figure out about the both of you.
>
> I can only inv
On Thu, Mar 11, 2004 at 08:05:04PM +, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
> * Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-03-11 13:52]:
> > But, even more important than individual interactions is energy and
> > drive.
> >
> > That's what I'm still trying to figure out about the both of you.
>
> I can only inv
On Thu, Mar 11, 2004 at 08:05:04PM +, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
> I can only invite you to look at the work I've done for Debian over
> the last years. You'll see a high level of commitment and energy.
I don't doubt that -- I'm definitely ranking you above the default option.
But, I still have
* Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-03-11 13:52]:
> But, even more important than individual interactions is energy and
> drive.
>
> That's what I'm still trying to figure out about the both of you.
I can only invite you to look at the work I've done for Debian over
the last years. You'll se
On Thu, Mar 11, 2004 at 06:10:28PM +, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
> Furthermore, partly in line with AJ said, while your communication has
> significantly improved, I wonder why it had to improve in the first
> place? I have never been known for flamewars, and most people know me
> as approachable
On Thu, Mar 11, 2004 at 08:05:04PM +, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
> I can only invite you to look at the work I've done for Debian over
> the last years. You'll see a high level of commitment and energy.
I don't doubt that -- I'm definitely ranking you above the default option.
But, I still have
* Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-03-09 00:57]:
> In fact, Martin criticized me last year for not having novel ideas:
[..]
> Note that he didn't say he thought they were bad ideas; instead he
> asserted that I would be ineffective at achieving them.
Yes, and I still assert the same. As
* Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-03-11 13:52]:
> But, even more important than individual interactions is energy and
> drive.
>
> That's what I'm still trying to figure out about the both of you.
I can only invite you to look at the work I've done for Debian over
the last years. You'll se
On Thu, Mar 11, 2004 at 06:10:28PM +, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
> Furthermore, partly in line with AJ said, while your communication has
> significantly improved, I wonder why it had to improve in the first
> place? I have never been known for flamewars, and most people know me
> as approachable
* Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-03-09 00:57]:
> In fact, Martin criticized me last year for not having novel ideas:
[..]
> Note that he didn't say he thought they were bad ideas; instead he
> asserted that I would be ineffective at achieving them.
Yes, and I still assert the same. As
On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 10:35:01AM -0600, Steve Langasek wrote:
> Question 1, to Branden and Martin:
>
> Reading over your platforms, I notice that they are very similar. I
> don't think this is a bad thing; I happen to agree quite strongly with
> both of your assessments of productive roles the
On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 10:35:01AM -0600, Steve Langasek wrote:
> Question 1, to Branden and Martin:
>
> Reading over your platforms, I notice that they are very similar. I
> don't think this is a bad thing; I happen to agree quite strongly with
> both of your assessments of productive roles the
On Fri, Mar 05, 2004 at 02:51:08PM +, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
> I stay in constant contact with a wide range of people involved in core
> team. Just to give two examples, I'm in regular contact with Matt
> Zimmerman (security) and Pascal Hakim (listmaster), but the same goes for
> other peopl
On Fri, Mar 05, 2004 at 02:51:08PM +, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
> I stay in constant contact with a wide range of people involved in core
> team. Just to give two examples, I'm in regular contact with Matt
> Zimmerman (security) and Pascal Hakim (listmaster), but the same goes for
> other peopl
* Marc Haber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-03-05 08:48]:
> I would like to ask what you have done in your past term to find out
> overworked core roles, and what happened to ease the work load on
> these core roles.
I stay in constant contact with a wide range of people involved in
core team. Just to
* Marc Haber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-03-05 08:48]:
> I would like to ask what you have done in your past term to find out
> overworked core roles, and what happened to ease the work load on
> these core roles.
I stay in constant contact with a wide range of people involved in
core team. Just to
Hi Martin,
On Fri, Mar 05, 2004 at 04:03:34AM +, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
> Yes, please see my platform for more details. I will clearly identify
> who is overworked and help to find addition man power. I will also
> find out if there are other ways to help them carry out their tasks
> (for e
Hi Martin,
On Fri, Mar 05, 2004 at 04:03:34AM +, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
> Yes, please see my platform for more details. I will clearly identify
> who is overworked and help to find addition man power. I will also
> find out if there are other ways to help them carry out their tasks
> (for e
* Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-03-03 10:35]:
> Reading over your platforms, I notice that they are very similar. I
> don't think this is a bad thing; I happen to agree quite strongly
> with both of your assessments of productive roles the DPL can play
> in our community.
I think recen
* Marc Haber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-03-04 09:03]:
> 2a. Do you see the concentration of many important roles on a few
> people as a problem? As example, I'd like to name DAM, keyring
If they cannot successfully perform their duties, then this is
certainly a problem, yes. See below.
>
* Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-03-03 10:35]:
> Reading over your platforms, I notice that they are very similar. I
> don't think this is a bad thing; I happen to agree quite strongly
> with both of your assessments of productive roles the DPL can play
> in our community.
I think recen
* Marc Haber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-03-04 09:03]:
> 2a. Do you see the concentration of many important roles on a few
> people as a problem? As example, I'd like to name DAM, keyring
If they cannot successfully perform their duties, then this is
certainly a problem, yes. See below.
>
* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-03-03 17:13]:
> > Has all this talking resulted in even an iota of concrete movement
> > on the official FSF position? Have there been any real promises
> > made that there is indeed going to be a change, from hte powers
> > that be in the FSF? Is there anything solid
* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-03-03 17:13]:
> > Has all this talking resulted in even an iota of concrete movement
> > on the official FSF position? Have there been any real promises
> > made that there is indeed going to be a change, from hte powers
> > that be in the FSF? Is there anything solid
* MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-03-04 10:15]:
> Additionally, I asked how much longer you think this discussion
> should be given before taking further action. For example, is
> tagging FDL-caused bugs -ignore for the next four years
> acceptable?
In July last year, I was asked by some members
On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 02:27:17PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
> I'm not sure it's fruitful to ground public conclusions (on -vote) on
> premises that have to remain private. If nothing else, it leaves
> non-Debian-Developers following our election process almost completely
> in the dark.
>
>
* MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-03-04 10:15]:
> Additionally, I asked how much longer you think this discussion
> should be given before taking further action. For example, is
> tagging FDL-caused bugs -ignore for the next four years
> acceptable?
In July last year, I was asked by some members
On 2004-03-03 15:46:59 + Martin Michlmayr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
* MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-03-03 08:33]:
It's now over four years since RMS asked -legal for comments on the
FDL. Do DPL candidates think agreement is likely in the next three
months? How much longer should this di
On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 02:27:17PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
> I'm not sure it's fruitful to ground public conclusions (on -vote) on
> premises that have to remain private. If nothing else, it leaves
> non-Debian-Developers following our election process almost completely
> in the dark.
>
>
On 2004-03-03 15:46:59 + Martin Michlmayr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
* MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-03-03 08:33]:
It's now over four years since RMS asked -legal for comments on the
FDL. Do DPL candidates think agreement is likely in the next three
months? How much longer should this discu
Hi,
Andreas has asked a lot of the questions that I intended to ask as
well, so I only need to amend one question he asked.
On Tue, Mar 02, 2004 at 03:20:16PM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote:
> 2. Recently we had some flamewars about concentration of "power" for
> some people inside Debian. Wh
Hi,
Andreas has asked a lot of the questions that I intended to ask as
well, so I only need to amend one question he asked.
On Tue, Mar 02, 2004 at 03:20:16PM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote:
> 2. Recently we had some flamewars about concentration of "power" for
> some people inside Debian. Wh
On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 07:21:27PM +, Andrew Suffield wrote:
> I think it's not impossible that some (more) of the opponents could be
> made to understand why people might disagree with them. But I can't
> imagine any even theoretically possible scenarios where this would
> change their opinion
On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 07:21:27PM +, Andrew Suffield wrote:
> I think it's not impossible that some (more) of the opponents could be
> made to understand why people might disagree with them. But I can't
> imagine any even theoretically possible scenarios where this would
> change their opinion
On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 07:21:27PM +, Andrew Suffield wrote:
> I would say it as:
>
> "For those who understand, no explanation is necessary.
> For those who do not, none is worthwhile."
>
> I think it's not impossible that some (more) of the opponents could be
> made to understand why people
On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 09:37:25AM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote:
> On Wed, 3 Mar 2004, Branden Robinson wrote
>
> [ Sorry if I do not answer right inside the thread but the "Reply to"
> links in the webform do not work as expected and I did not subscribed
> to the list. Please CC me, if you wan
On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 05:51:11PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
> > Group (b) does not want to do this work
> > because they want non-free to be in Debian, not external to it.
>
> For reference, I don't want to do that work because I think it's a waste
> of time and effort to have a separate archiv
On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 02:16:13PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 06:18:03PM +0100, Michael Banck wrote:
> > On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 12:09:23PM -0500, Raul Miller wrote:
> > > However, if the point of this vote is "to decide what it is that we
> > > want to do", then I thi
On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 06:18:03PM +0100, Michael Banck wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 12:09:23PM -0500, Raul Miller wrote:
> > However, if the point of this vote is "to decide what it is that we
> > want to do", then I think we'd be better served with a rationale for
> > your proposal.
>
> The
On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 06:18:03PM +0100, Michael Banck wrote:
> The rationale is so obvious to everybody supporting the resolution and
> so incomprehensible to those opposing it that it is not worth the pain
> to argue about it, IMHO.
You're not describing a rationale, you're describing an articl
> Question 1, to Branden and Martin:
/me gets hissy and sad and stuff for being discriminated from a
question, and goes to his mommy to cry a little *weep-weep*
> Question 2, to Gergely:
>
> Your platform clearly shows your creativity and sense of humor, two
> traits I believe are important for
On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 07:21:27PM +, Andrew Suffield wrote:
> I would say it as:
>
> "For those who understand, no explanation is necessary.
> For those who do not, none is worthwhile."
>
> I think it's not impossible that some (more) of the opponents could be
> made to understand why people
On Wed, 03 Mar 2004 10:29:39 -0600
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > * MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-03-03 08:33]:
> >> It's now over four years since RMS asked -legal for comments on the
> >> FDL. Do DPL candidates think agreement is likely in the next three
> >> months? How much
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