Re: Questions Regarding Delegates

2007-03-04 Thread Steve McIntyre
[ First of all, apologies for the delayed response; I'm catching up after several days of FOSDEM-plague :-( ] Hi John, On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 04:46:55PM -0600, John Lightsey wrote: >The first power enumerated to the DPL in the Debian Constitution is the >power to appoint and remove delegates.

Re: Questions Regarding Delegates

2007-02-28 Thread Sam Hocevar
On Wed, Feb 28, 2007, Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote: > As far as I can tell, it is not forbidden. A DAM can run for DPL and > still retain the DAM hat if elected. Again, this makes sense, as the > fact that the DAM is in the race would be well known and therefore a > vote to elect them would be an

Re: Questions Regarding Delegates

2007-02-28 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 10:43:34AM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > So it was quite logical to forbid the sharing of DPL hat and DAM hat. As far as I can tell, it is not forbidden. A DAM can run for DPL and still retain the DAM hat if elected. Again, this makes sense, as the fact that the DAM is

Re: Questions Regarding Delegates

2007-02-28 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Wed, 28 Feb 2007, Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote: > On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 09:55:52PM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > Probably. But what is the purpose of not being able to delegate to > > the DPL then? I doubt it was added just to make sure that people > > understand that delegation means shar

Re: Questions Regarding Delegates

2007-02-28 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 09:55:52PM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > Probably. But what is the purpose of not being able to delegate to > the DPL then? I doubt it was added just to make sure that people > understand that delegation means sharing power with someone else. There are mandatory delegatio

Re: Questions Regarding Delegates

2007-02-27 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Wed, 28 Feb 2007, Mohammed Adnène Trojette wrote: > On Tue, Feb 27, 2007, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > Probably. But what is the purpose of not being able to delegate to > > the DPL then? I doubt it was added just to make sure that people > > understand that delegation means sharing power with som

Re: Questions Regarding Delegates

2007-02-27 Thread Mohammed Adnène Trojette
On Tue, Feb 27, 2007, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > Probably. But what is the purpose of not being able to delegate to > the DPL then? I doubt it was added just to make sure that people > understand that delegation means sharing power with someone else. We should ask the constitution writers (Ian Jacks

Re: Questions Regarding Delegates

2007-02-27 Thread Sam Hocevar
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007, John Lightsey wrote: > 1) Do you believe past DPL's have used the power of delegation > effectively? Hard to tell. I believe additional delegation would have solved the unresponsiveness issues we have been having for several years now, but I wouldn't say it was the only w

Re: Questions Regarding Delegates

2007-02-27 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Tue, 27 Feb 2007, Sam Hocevar wrote: > On Tue, Feb 27, 2007, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > On Tue, 27 Feb 2007, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > > No. Delegating oneself could theoretically be used to create loopholes > > > so that a future DPL has no power anymore. Continuing an > > > already-existing d

Re: Questions Regarding Delegates

2007-02-27 Thread Sam Hocevar
On Tue, Feb 27, 2007, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > On Tue, 27 Feb 2007, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > No. Delegating oneself could theoretically be used to create loopholes > > so that a future DPL has no power anymore. Continuing an > > already-existing delegation could not. > > Ack. NACK. Please exp

Re: Questions Regarding Delegates

2007-02-27 Thread Anthony Towns
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 04:46:55PM -0600, John Lightsey wrote: > 1) Do you believe past DPL's have used the power of delegation > effectively? I don't think the power of delegation is a terribly effective power; once people have filled a role for a while, they end up with a moral authority to reta

Re: Questions Regarding Delegates

2007-02-26 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Tue, 27 Feb 2007, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 04:46:55PM -0600, John Lightsey wrote: > > The first power enumerated to the DPL in the Debian Constitution is the > > power to appoint and remove delegates. My questions are directed at > > determining how you as DPL will use t

Re: Questions Regarding Delegates

2007-02-26 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 2/26/07, John Lightsey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The first power enumerated to the DPL in the Debian Constitution is the power to appoint and remove delegates. My questions are directed at determining how you as DPL will use this power to guide the Debian Project. Hi John, 1) Do you beli

Re: Questions Regarding Delegates

2007-02-26 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 04:46:55PM -0600, John Lightsey wrote: > The first power enumerated to the DPL in the Debian Constitution is the > power to appoint and remove delegates. My questions are directed at > determining how you as DPL will use this power to guide the Debian > Project. Even if th

Questions Regarding Delegates

2007-02-26 Thread John Lightsey
The first power enumerated to the DPL in the Debian Constitution is the power to appoint and remove delegates. My questions are directed at determining how you as DPL will use this power to guide the Debian Project. 1) Do you believe past DPL's have used the power of delegation effectively? 2) A