Re: Aliases for /dev/null: Clarification about krooger's platform

2005-03-20 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Anthony Towns writes: > > > This is not the case; in most cases the people complaining about > > ifupdown have made it very clear they're not interested in > > co-maintenance. > > I know one person who is interested in co-maintenance. It doesn'

Re: Aliases for /dev/null: Clarification about krooger's platform

2005-03-20 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Anthony Towns writes: > Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > > Anthony Towns writes: > >>This is not the case; in most cases the people complaining about > >>ifupdown have made it very clear they're not interested in > >>co-maintenance. > > I know one person who is interested in co-maintenance. > > Wel

Re: Aliases for /dev/null: Clarification about krooger's platform

2005-03-20 Thread Anthony Towns
Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: Anthony Towns writes: This is not the case; in most cases the people complaining about ifupdown have made it very clear they're not interested in co-maintenance. I know one person who is interested in co-maintenance. Well, from your other mail it looks like you're more i

Re: Aliases for /dev/null: Clarification about krooger's platform

2005-03-20 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Anthony Towns writes: > This is not the case; in most cases the people complaining about > ifupdown have made it very clear they're not interested in > co-maintenance. I know one person who is interested in co-maintenance. It doesn't really matter what "in most cases" means, what matters is whe

Re: Aliases for /dev/null: Clarification about krooger's platform

2005-03-20 Thread Anthony Towns
Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: Anthony is the "maintainer" of this package, and has refused either to allow adoption or a co-maintainer arrangement with interested partes. This is not the case; in most cases the people complaining about ifupdown have made it very clear they're not interested in co-mai

Re: Aliases for /dev/null: Clarification about krooger's platform

2005-03-20 Thread Raul Miller
On Sun, Mar 20, 2005 at 03:26:23PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > My question is: when there is a technical issue, but one developer > refuses to discuss it with tech-ctte or anyone else, can tech-ctte get > involved? Yes. > It does, but I recall in the past being told that tech-ctte doesn

Re: Aliases for /dev/null: Clarification about krooger's platform

2005-03-20 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Beyond that... since you've not actually stated any technical issues, > and since the maintainer of that package is one of the DPL candidates, I > think you should make an effort to be clear about what you're saying here. This is a different question, and

Re: Aliases for /dev/null: Clarification about krooger's platform

2005-03-20 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > As described, this is an administrative issue, rather than a technical > issue. Yes, that's correct. At present there is no reason for tech-ctte to be involved. My example was poorly chosen. > Beyond that... since you've not actually stated any technic

Re: Aliases for /dev/null: Clarification about krooger's platform

2005-03-20 Thread Raul Miller
> Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > What work? On Sun, Mar 20, 2005 at 02:46:17PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > I have in mind, for example, the ifupdown script. The maintainer has > not made a maintainer upload for years, and so maintenance of the > package has been proceding by

Re: Aliases for /dev/null: Clarification about krooger's platform

2005-03-20 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > What work? > > A developer who never acts would have no work to review. The technical > committee would thus never have any reason to override any decisions > this developer made -- because there would be no such decisions. I have in mind, for example,

Re: Aliases for /dev/null: Clarification about krooger's platform

2005-03-20 Thread Raul Miller
> > How can the tech-ctte override a developer by not acting? On Mon, Mar 07, 2005 at 10:55:21AM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > No, the question is whether a developer (by never acting) can avoid > tech-ctte review of his work. What work? A developer who never acts would have no work to rev

Re: Aliases for /dev/null: Clarification about krooger's platform

2005-03-07 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > To: debian-vote@lists.debian.org > > This is why I suspect ftpmaster is a particular instance of some > > more general problem. At the moment, is there a constititional > > loophole that one can avoid tech-ctte overruling one (the only > > time complaints

Re: Aliases for /dev/null: Clarification about krooger's platform

2005-03-07 Thread Raul Miller
To: debian-vote@lists.debian.org > This is why I suspect ftpmaster is a particular instance of some > more general problem. At the moment, is there a constititional > loophole that one can avoid tech-ctte overruling one (the only > time complaints are mentioned) by never acting? I'm having trouble

Re: Aliases for /dev/null: Clarification about krooger's platform

2005-03-04 Thread Joel Aelwyn
On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 10:49:02AM -0800, Anthony Towns wrote: > MJ Ray wrote: > >That reminds me of one thing that has annoyed me during tbm's > >leadership (sorry tbm! You have done most things well): > >it has been very difficult to correct the bastard form of > >my name listed on db.d.o that wa

Re: Aliases for /dev/null: Clarification about krooger's platform

2005-03-04 Thread MJ Ray
Anthony Towns wrote: > I think it's far more important for people working on Debian to focus > their attention on improving our operating system; if "Mark J Ray" is a > correct variant of your name, no matter how bastardised, I don't think > it's worth worrying about changing that to "MJ Ray" w

Re: Aliases for /dev/null: Clarification about krooger's platform

2005-03-04 Thread Anthony Towns
MJ Ray wrote: That reminds me of one thing that has annoyed me during tbm's leadership (sorry tbm! You have done most things well): it has been very difficult to correct the bastard form of my name listed on db.d.o that was caused by a misconfigured mailserver years ago. The [EMAIL PROTECTED] addre

Re: Aliases for /dev/null: Clarification about krooger's platform

2005-03-04 Thread Matthew Garrett
MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 1. Will DPL candidates try to address delegate communication > in general? Deal with each case individually? Yes, to both. I think my platform makes my opinions in this respect fairly cleary. > 2. How would the candidate deal with complaints? Is it part > of t

Aliases for /dev/null: Clarification about krooger's platform

2005-03-04 Thread MJ Ray
MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Matthew Garrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Mark, [...] That reminds me of one thing that has annoyed me during tbm's leadership (sorry tbm! You have done most things well): it has been very difficult to correct the bastard form of my name listed on db.d.o th