s a problem but it's one we've known about for a long time so I
don't really see things as being quite as urgent as you seem to.
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> At last count, the following had sconded the previous draft, I hope
> there is no problem with the changes made with this version.
I have no problem with these changes.
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of the grammar, spelling, or comma changes. Several of the other
changes seem to be useful clarifications.
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> there's a desire for that, just get in touch with me.
Thanks for the offer but I don't think the issue is a real lack of
understanding between FSF, CC and Debian. There are officially delegated
and long term conversations between Debian and both CC and FSF.
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sy by limiting a release to a small core part of the
distro. CDDs may have been brought up in this regard. Quite honestly,
I think there's *way* too much overlap between different CDDs to make
this sort of division very practical. Perhaps I'm misunderstanding
though.
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sy by limiting a release to a small core part of the
distro. CDDs may have been brought up in this regard. Quite honestly,
I think there's *way* too much overlap between different CDDs to make
this sort of division very practical. Perhaps I'm misunderstanding
though.
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On Tue, Mar 09, 2004 at 05:32:13PM +, MJ Ray wrote:
> Short memory. Don't some FSF machines use Debian?
I think basically all of them do. It should go without saying: sans
non-free.
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On Tue, Mar 09, 2004 at 05:32:13PM +, MJ Ray wrote:
> Short memory. Don't some FSF machines use Debian?
I think basically all of them do. It should go without saying: sans
non-free.
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oup while making
things less ambiguous in ways you think are important.
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P.S. The third person stuff is kind of freaky. :)
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oup while making
things less ambiguous in ways you think are important.
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P.S. The third person stuff is kind of freaky. :)
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On Tue, Jan 27, 2004 at 03:38:20PM -0500, Raul Miller wrote:
> > > How do you compromise between A and B when the the distinguishing
> > > feature is that A wants to have nothing to do with B?
>
> On Tue, Jan 27, 2004 at 12:10:30PM -0800, Benj. Mako Hill wrote:
> >
those beliefs stupid is the most effective way to
campaign on behalf of your amendment.
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On Tue, Jan 27, 2004 at 03:38:20PM -0500, Raul Miller wrote:
> > > How do you compromise between A and B when the the distinguishing
> > > feature is that A wants to have nothing to do with B?
>
> On Tue, Jan 27, 2004 at 12:10:30PM -0800, Benj. Mako Hill wrote:
> >
those beliefs stupid is the most effective way to
campaign on behalf of your amendment.
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100% free, or is it our project?
I think that yours is one creative way of trying to clarify the
current situation without making most people feel like the strength of
their project's stated commitment to the creation of a free software
distribution is being smashed. I think there is room for improvement.
In terms of answering your question though: I think that's pretty much
what we're voting on.
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tion (as
discussion on this list seems already beginning to demonstrate).
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> all the meaning from the subtitles and ignore the rest of the contract.
The subtitles should be an accurate reflection of rest of the
document. The subtitles are the bits that get quoted all over the
place -- like it or not. If we have the ability to make a firm and
largely unambiguou
100% free, or is it our project?
I think that yours is one creative way of trying to clarify the
current situation without making most people feel like the strength of
their project's stated commitment to the creation of a free software
distribution is being smashed. I think there is room for improvement.
In terms of answering your question though: I think that's pretty much
what we're voting on.
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Mako
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discussion on this list seems already beginning to demonstrate).
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> all the meaning from the subtitles and ignore the rest of the contract.
The subtitles should be an accurate reflection of rest of the
document. The subtitles are the bits that get quoted all over the
place -- like it or not. If we have the ability to make a firm and
largely unambiguous state
sea of non-free software,
we're doing our job.
I guess that means I think it needs work.
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sea of non-free software,
we're doing our job.
I guess that means I think it needs work.
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its easy for users that really want non-free software but not
so easy that people instinctively choose it en mass is a good gaol
One benefit is that it all ends up being a lot less controversial than
the sorts of proposals that spawn this thread. :)
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gt; It becomes a problem of "Where do you draw the line?"
>
> I would not draw a line which gets rid of non-free as it currently exists.
Obviously, some people would. That's why we need to vote.
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its easy for users that really want non-free software but not
so easy that people instinctively choose it en mass is a good gaol
One benefit is that it all ends up being a lot less controversial than
the sorts of proposals that spawn this thread. :)
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gt; It becomes a problem of "Where do you draw the line?"
>
> I would not draw a line which gets rid of non-free as it currently exists.
Obviously, some people would. That's why we need to vote.
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st and some process and policy type decisions.
So far, people seem to be taking the position that it will better to
first vote on whether or not we're going to move in this direction (a
super majority decision) and then, once that decision is made to focus
on the details.
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Be
st and some process and policy type decisions.
So far, people seem to be taking the position that it will better to
first vote on whether or not we're going to move in this direction (a
super majority decision) and then, once that decision is made to focus
on the details.
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ry without a mandate.
> If this proposal passes, wouldn't it be a mandate to also remove
> non-free, and the admins shall be acting in accordance with the
> wishes of the developers?
Branden's justification makes it *explicitly* clear that this is not
the case. I don't see how anyone
ry without a mandate.
> If this proposal passes, wouldn't it be a mandate to also remove
> non-free, and the admins shall be acting in accordance with the
> wishes of the developers?
Branden's justification makes it *explicitly* clear that this is not
the case. I don't see how an
On Thu, Oct 30, 2003 at 02:09:42PM +0200, Richard Braakman wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 29, 2003 at 06:14:24PM -0800, Benj. Mako Hill wrote:
> > Also, in the first sentence in the second section, the proposed text
> > reads: "we will license them as freely in a manner consistent with
On Thu, Oct 30, 2003 at 02:09:42PM +0200, Richard Braakman wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 29, 2003 at 06:14:24PM -0800, Benj. Mako Hill wrote:
> > Also, in the first sentence in the second section, the proposed text
> > reads: "we will license them as freely in a manner consistent with
ies the exact opposite.
Did you read the wdiff wrong, mistype, or am I missing something? If
it's the first option, check out Richard Braakman's page. It's much
more readable. If it's the last bit, please correct me. :)
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ies the exact opposite.
Did you read the wdiff wrong, mistype, or am I missing something? If
it's the first option, check out Richard Braakman's page. It's much
more readable. If it's the last bit, please correct me. :)
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ink there is a residual "as" in
there. You could probably lose the "as freely" and just have it say
"we will license them in a manner..." and it would make sense.
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ink there is a residual "as" in
there. You could probably lose the "as freely" and just have it say
"we will license them in a manner..." and it would make sense.
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On Thu, Oct 23, 2003 at 07:33:39PM -0400, Daniel Burrows wrote:
> Apparently I'm doing something wrong when signing messages. Can
> someone tell me what's wrong with this email?
I'm getting a correct signature with the key thats listed on db.debian.org.
Regards,
Mako
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On Thu, Oct 23, 2003 at 07:33:39PM -0400, Daniel Burrows wrote:
> Apparently I'm doing something wrong when signing messages. Can
> someone tell me what's wrong with this email?
I'm getting a correct signature with the key thats listed on db.debian.org.
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Mako
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'd be willing to check over my
proposal once it's written, I'd be willing to take this up.
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'd be willing to check over my
proposal once it's written, I'd be willing to take this up.
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opinions are leaning one way or the
> other, yet.
For whatever it's worth: I think that the voting geeks recommendations
make sense and I think that fixing a bug in our voting system--even
one who's effect is statistically improbable--is a worthwhile use of
our time. I support m
opinions are leaning one way or the
> other, yet.
For whatever it's worth: I think that the voting geeks recommendations
make sense and I think that fixing a bug in our voting system--even
one who's effect is statistically improbable--is a worthwhile use of
our time. I support m
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