Re: New section for firmware.

2008-12-23 Thread Loïc Minier
hich doesn't have this section. So that would mean two sets of images. What is the advantage of this section over pulling firmwares from non-free into a second set of images? -- Loïc Minier -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-vote-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubs

Re: First call for votes for the Lenny release GR

2008-12-18 Thread Loïc Minier
rying to remove some lenny blockers. It might be an useful vote to speed up the release of lenny, but it might also be a release killing vote such as "we wont release lenny with DFSG violations". I hope a lenny ballot wouldn't have such an option, but it might. -- L

Re: First call for votes for the Lenny release GR

2008-12-17 Thread Loïc Minier
osed resolutions (that they'd apply after lenny) has anything to do with the fact that we vote on them separately or on a single ballot. One reason it's worse is that we will effectively take only one decision instead of at least 3 or 4. -- Loïc Minier -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debi

Re: First call for votes for the Lenny release GR

2008-12-17 Thread Loïc Minier
d enough seconds; if you think we need more seconds for GRs, propose a GR. -- Loïc Minier -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-vote-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: First call for votes for the Lenny release GR

2008-12-17 Thread Loïc Minier
ate votes... > There was no such proposal during the discussion period. It was your decision to make a single ballot out of these orthogonal issues, do not present the situation as being the proposers' fault. -- Loïc Minier -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-vote-requ...@lists.debian.org

Re: First call for votes for the Lenny release GR

2008-12-14 Thread Loïc Minier
ntract and may or may not diverge in practice. This choice doesn't have any practical impact and doesn't change any rule or project opinion. -- Loïc Minier -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-vote-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: First call for votes for the Lenny release GR

2008-12-14 Thread Loïc Minier
all agreed to honor the social contract anyway. Apart of the noise of choice 1, this ballot doesn't empower us to decide on the 4 different questions. So I understand that we intend to honor all choices which beat NOTA, i.e. not only the highest ranked choice. Bye -- Loïc Minie

Re: call for seconds: on firmware (was: on firmware (possible proposal))

2008-11-15 Thread Loïc Minier
rce. While we do > | prefer firmware that comes with source and documentation we will not > | require it, > | b) we however do require all other freedoms that the DFSG mandate from > | components of our operating system, and > | c) such firmware can and should be pa

Re: on firmware (possible proposal)

2008-11-12 Thread Loïc Minier
I'd support it; I don't mind alternate proposals using new archive sections, or whatever new way to classify firmware on a Debian system either. -- Loïc Minier -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Technical committee resolution

2008-03-28 Thread Loïc Minier
d Charter concept looks like working around the Constitution's change process. -- Loïc Minier -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: On the "Debian Maintainers" GR

2007-07-26 Thread Loïc Minier
don't fit with your imagination. Too bad you couldn't be bothered to read "Not everybody wants to be DD". Please leave my imagination alone, thanks. -- Loïc Minier -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: On the "Debian Maintainers" GR

2007-07-26 Thread Loïc Minier
On Thu, Jul 26, 2007, Josselin Mouette wrote: > If someone can make such packages, he should become a DD, full stop. Don't bother replying if you don't read the thread. -- Loïc Minier -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe".

Re: On the "Debian Maintainers" GR

2007-07-26 Thread Loïc Minier
he case nowadays). So are you saying that an unexpected consequence of the Debian maintainers uploading their packages alone could be that the Debian sponsors would have to look for different packages to sponsor? -- Loïc Minier -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subjec

Re: On the "Debian Maintainers" GR

2007-07-26 Thread Loïc Minier
On Thu, Jul 26, 2007, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > - Not everybody wants to be DD. [1] > - Not everybody deserves to be DD. [2] > - Everybody who is able to properly maintain a package according to our > rules should have the possibility to maintain that package. But what if this results in higher

Re: Question for Gustavo and Sam: bringing back the fun

2007-03-15 Thread Loïc Minier
On Thu, Mar 15, 2007, Julien BLACHE wrote: > Flamewars are actually fun, when done properly. Oh right; the fun part must be an omission on <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flaming> -- unless you meant the artistic type of flamewars. ;) -- Loïc Minier -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email

Re: Questions to all candidates: Release importance, release blockers, release quality

2007-03-06 Thread Loïc Minier
On Mon, Mar 05, 2007, Clown Adams wrote: > Are you referring to Frans or AJ when you say that? Don't be jealous. -- Loïc Minier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [GR] DD should be allowed to perform binary-only uploads

2007-02-08 Thread Loïc Minier
een shutdown completely at multiple times and for various occasions. > > it sounds pointless to discuss what rights remain to them. >I could not agree more: discussion has shown to be pointless indeed, > hence the GR. Or so I guess. So, a pointless discussion in response to a

Re: [GR] DD should be allowed to perform binary-only uploads

2007-02-08 Thread Loïc Minier
R is about revoking some ftpmasters rights which should be exercized with judgment, it sounds pointless to discuss what rights remain to them. -- Loïc Minier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: First call for vote on immediate vote under section 4.2.2

2006-10-28 Thread Loïc Minier
Where's the vote.debian.org page? -- Loïc Minier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Call for vote (was Re: Proposal: Recall the Project Leader)

2006-10-04 Thread Loïc Minier
I confirm the short voting period. (This is also mentionned in the proposed WML pages for the website.) -- Loïc Minier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Call for a vote: Re-affirm support to the Debian Project Leader

2006-10-04 Thread Loïc Minier
discussion I'm attaching the proposed WML page for this vote (vote_006.wml). Bye, -- Loïc Minier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> General Resolution: Re-affirm support to the Debian Project Leader P #use wml::debian::template title="" BARETITLE="true" NOHEADER="true&quo

Re: Proposal: Recall the Project Leader

2006-10-03 Thread Loïc Minier
t's a useful thing to do. I wish the vote starts as soon as possible. I am fine with either one ballot or separates ballots. Denis, do you have a preference in the number of ballots? Bye, -- Loïc Minier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Resolutions concerning dunc-tank

2006-09-24 Thread Loïc Minier
; address dunc-tank in a General Resolution. > ->8- So, if this resolution wins the vote, it will contradict itself since we will have had a GR on Dunc yet we find it not appropriate to have one? -- Loïc Minier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL

Re: Counter-proposal: reaffirm support for the elected DPL

2006-09-24 Thread Loïc Minier
On Fri, Sep 22, 2006, Sam Hocevar wrote: > On Thu, Sep 21, 2006, Loïc Minier wrote: > > The Debian Project reaffirms its support to its DPL. > > The Debian Project does not object to the experiment named "Duck > > Tank" >I do not like how this "not objec

Re: Proposal: Recall the Project Leader

2006-09-24 Thread Loïc Minier
nk is a mean to disguise bribes? I fail to see why the problems you describe were not problems two months or two years ago. -- Loïc Minier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Proposal: Recall the Project Leader

2006-09-21 Thread Loïc Minier
"Dunc-Tank"" and "The Debian Project wishes success to projects funding Debian or helping towards the release of Etch.", which is something which was meant to be as consensual as "we wish nice things to people wanting nice thinkgs for Debian", but it seems

Re: Proposal: Recall the Project Leader

2006-09-21 Thread Loïc Minier
proposal (as I understand it). Please recall your GR proposal. -- Loïc Minier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Proposal: Recall the Project Leader

2006-09-21 Thread Loïc Minier
x27;t it be, it wouldn't get sponsors. -- Loïc Minier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Proposal: Recall the Project Leader

2006-09-21 Thread Loïc Minier
lopers, users and supporters of Debian. -- Loïc Minier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Counter-proposal: reaffirm support for the elected DPL

2006-09-21 Thread Loïc Minier
On Thu, Sep 21, 2006, Loïc Minier wrote: > I'm sorry for the typo, it is Dunc-Tank. Updated text attached. How embarassing. I keep making typos, I hope this cheers readers up. -- Loïc Minier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The Debian Project reaffirms its support to its DPL. The Debia

Re: Counter-proposal: reaffirm support for the elected DPL

2006-09-21 Thread Loïc Minier
On Thu, Sep 21, 2006, Loïc Minier wrote: > The Debian Project does not object to the experiment named "Duck Tank", lead > by I'm sorry for the typo, it is Dunc-Tank. Updated text attached. -- Loïc Minier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The Debian Project reaffirms its supp

Counter-proposal: reaffirm support for the elected DPL

2006-09-21 Thread Loïc Minier
There's always None of the above, but I am pissed enough by the attitude of some developers that I want to reaffirm support for the elected DPL whatever he does to suppose Debian outside of the project. (The text of the proposal is attached.) -- Loïc Minier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Proposal: Recall the Project Leader

2006-09-21 Thread Loïc Minier
roken article? Would you read an article claiming that Debian buys Ubuntu stock and then call the leader a fraud? What if the article would claim that KDE is sluggish in Debian? I'm deeply disappointed by the french cabal supporting this DPL bashing. Please do feel responsible for the f

Re: Proposal: Recall the Project Leader

2006-09-20 Thread Loïc Minier
. I'm impressed by the energy and creativity Anthony found for this issue, even if I strongely objected to his initial plan. Please, don't be the one blocking innovation in Debian; be innovant instead. Thanks, -- Loïc Minier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Proposal: The DFSG do not require source code for data, including firmware

2006-08-23 Thread Loïc Minier
7;s opinion on firmware, madwifi is > clearly non-free. Yes, that's why we (including Aurélien) want to keep it in non-free. -- Loïc Minier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]