Hallo,
* Didier 'OdyX' Raboud [Sun, Apr 11 2021, 06:00:30PM]:
> For what I'm concerned, I don't "insist on making the personal views on this
> GR public", because it was always clear (to me) that all voters' personal
> views on this GR would end up being made public by the secretary on our
> websi
Hallo,
* Russ Allbery [Fri, Apr 09 2021, 10:59:16AM]:
> Sam Hartman writes:
>
> > Thanks for doing this. I'm actually very comfortable for us to make the
> > decision under 5.1(3). We cleraly cannot hold a GR in time to change
> > the constitution prior to the election ending. And our constitut
Hallo,
* Felix Lechner [Sun, Mar 28 2021, 08:12:58AM]:
> On Sun, Mar 28, 2021 at 5:05 AM Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> >
> > You (and others, privately) agree that the
> > accusations are deliberately harmful
>
> That's intent to harm—and maybe malice.
>
> Anyone wishing to harm someone should do so
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* Debian Project Secretary [Sat, Oct 07 2006, 06:53:35PM]:
> - - -=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
> a65763d3-b1e2-4530-8ff8-aa5915274eb4
> [ 2 ] Choice 1: Re-affirm DPL, wish success to unofficial Dunc Tank
> [ 1 ] Choice 2: Re-affirm DPL, do not en
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* Bill Allombert [Fri, Sep 22 2006, 12:33:28AM]:
> Dear Debian developers,
>
> As an amendement to the firmware GR, I hereby propose the following
> position statement.
>
> ===
> THE DEBIAN PROJECT:
> 1. reaffirms its dedication to pro
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* Sven Luther [Sat, Aug 26 2006, 06:21:54PM]:
> On Sat, Aug 26, 2006 at 11:24:47AM +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote:
> > #include
>
> Thanks for saying those things, which i was thinking myself, but could not
> have expressed without being seen as a whiner.
You know, it
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* Peter Samuelson [Sat, Aug 26 2006, 05:35:00AM]:
>
> [Eduard Bloch]
> > > . Ship a separate non-free CD.
> >
> > >* Does bad things to our CD/DVD disk space requirements.
> >
> > How? Basedebs take about 40MB. I think there i
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* Joey Hess [Wed, Aug 23 2006, 02:15:59PM]:
> Anthony Towns wrote:
> > If it makes sense, what are the major difficulties/inconveniences/whatever
> > that were found in having this happen for etch, that will need to be
> > addressed to achieve an etch+1 release that's both useful and conv
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* Frans Pop [Wed, Aug 23 2006, 02:28:30AM]:
> Seconded.
Also seconded.
> > The application of DFSG#2 to firmware and other data
> >
> >
> > The Debian Project recognizes that access to source code for a work of
> >
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* Andres Salomon [Tue, Mar 07 2006, 04:53:40PM]:
> The reason for my question?
>
> jonas: i hope we never again meet in public, because i promise i
> will hit you if i do.
A-Ha. Let's buy them two boxing sets and popcorn for the rest of us.
Eduard.
--
anyone from the MIA team aroun
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* Thomas Bushnell BSG [Mon, Nov 21 2005, 10:25:26PM]:
> > I'm amazed anyone considers otherwise. It's unethical to publish
> > things that debian promised to keep private. I think it also leaves
> > us wide open to accusations of infringing copyright.
>
> I think you are wrong on both c
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* Matthew Garrett [Fri, Nov 18 2005, 04:13:35PM]:
> Monroe Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I don't think we have any moral right and barely any legal standing
> > to publish messages which were made to a private mailing list under
> > the current regime. The veto option doesn't cove
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* Anthony Towns [Tue, Nov 15 2005, 12:08:15PM]:
> Hello world,
>
> One of the issues Debian often stands for is transparency and openness
> -- indeed, the openness of our bug tracking system is codified in the
> Social Contract's statement "We will not hide problems". However, one
> part
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* Steinar H. Gunderson [Sun, Mar 13 2005, 02:53:38PM]:
> On Sun, Mar 13, 2005 at 02:42:05PM +0100, Martin Schulze wrote:
> > Out of curiosity, which "important pieces of software" are hidden
> > by not mentioning or including non-free (and contrib)?
> - nvidia-glx
> - atmel-firmware
> -
Hello,
I would like to know your opinion about the discrimination of the
contrib and non-free parts of the Debian archive(*).
Do you think that hidding important pieces of software does serve our
users? (with or without the bug license teaching messages)
The best example for the current practice
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* Anthony Towns [Mon, Mar 07 2005, 12:34:02AM]:
> I'm pretty confident I can find someone who's not me to enforce that
> policy who doesn't suffer from that level of infamy, and I'm also pretty
> confident that given that policy being actually enforced, that I can
> encourage a bunch
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* Sven Luther [Sat, Mar 05 2005, 08:32:57PM]:
> > I think we could do a better job of documenting the best ways of
> > packaging things. I don't think anything beyond ignorance of what the
> > best way actually is is stopping anyone from implementing really new
> > things though.
>
>
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* MJ Ray [Mon, Feb 28 2005, 12:31:27PM]:
> > I second the dead camel and the entire population of Swaziland, not the=20
> > cheddar cheese. Unless 100 developers wish the cheddar cheese to run, of =
> > course.
>
> Won't that happen anyway if they leave it out in the sun?
>
> I second
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* Andrew Suffield [Wed, Jul 28 2004, 07:16:04PM]:
> You cannot write a GR to order somebody to do something. That's
> fundamental to the project structure, and written into the
> constitution. Get used to the idea, and stop proposing GRs that don't
> do anything.
You can propose what yo
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* Ingo Juergensmann [Tue, Jul 13 2004, 08:12:22PM]:
> This issue has been raised many, many times before, because part of
> ftp-masters are as well part of DSA as part of wanna-build crew as part of
> .
>
> People in role positions should IMHO be forced to communicate with
> *everyone*
> I propose the following amendment, replacing the entire text of the
> resolution:
>
> --
> Reaffirmation of the social contract - priorities are our users and
> the free software community
...
> community, and we don't intend to blow our guidelines up to full legal
> texts, becau
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* Sven Luther [Wed, Mar 10 2004, 12:28:11PM]:
> > > Ok, they add parts of it. Thanks for clarifying my impressise
> > > terminology. Still part of non-free remains non-free :)
> >
> > That does not make it 'semi-official' though, or what was your point?
>
> Well, semi-official is vague
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* Sven Luther [Wed, Mar 10 2004, 12:28:11PM]:
> > > Ok, they add parts of it. Thanks for clarifying my impressise
> > > terminology. Still part of non-free remains non-free :)
> >
> > That does not make it 'semi-official' though, or what was your point?
>
> Well, semi-official is vague
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* Martin Schulze [Tue, Mar 09 2004, 08:24:47AM]:
> Eduard Bloch wrote:
> > > > do you mean the default source.list after installation? Does the sarge
> > > > installer also not ask the user if he want to include non-free?
> > >
> > >
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* Martin Schulze [Tue, Mar 09 2004, 08:24:47AM]:
> Eduard Bloch wrote:
> > > > do you mean the default source.list after installation? Does the sarge
> > > > installer also not ask the user if he want to include non-free?
> > >
> > >
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* Michael Banck [Sun, Mar 07 2004, 07:10:13PM]:
> On Sun, Mar 07, 2004 at 06:43:51PM +0100, Markus wrote:
> > On Sun, 07 Mar 2004 18:20:17 +0100, Joey Hess wrote:
> > > Markus wrote:
> > >> Ask in normal Debian or GNU/Linux forums how does a normal Debian OS
> > >> source.list looks. The
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* Michael Banck [Sun, Mar 07 2004, 07:10:13PM]:
> On Sun, Mar 07, 2004 at 06:43:51PM +0100, Markus wrote:
> > On Sun, 07 Mar 2004 18:20:17 +0100, Joey Hess wrote:
> > > Markus wrote:
> > >> Ask in normal Debian or GNU/Linux forums how does a normal Debian OS
> > >> source.list looks. The
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* MJ Ray [Sun, Mar 07 2004, 11:44:16PM]:
> >hardware manufacturers (in the last instance) only. Do you think that
> >they produce everything built in their devices?
>
> Do you really think that hardware manufacturers don't decide what to
> build into their devices?
Of course they do,
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* MJ Ray [Sun, Mar 07 2004, 11:44:16PM]:
> >hardware manufacturers (in the last instance) only. Do you think that
> >they produce everything built in their devices?
>
> Do you really think that hardware manufacturers don't decide what to
> build into their devices?
Of course they do,
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* MJ Ray [Wed, Feb 25 2004, 09:58:55PM]:
> Some hardware manufacturers do help to produce free software drivers,
> or even publish them themselves. We give them the carrot of letting
> their drivers into main. Why should we give the carrot of inclusion on
> our ftp archive to those wh
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* MJ Ray [Wed, Feb 25 2004, 09:58:55PM]:
> Some hardware manufacturers do help to produce free software drivers,
> or even publish them themselves. We give them the carrot of letting
> their drivers into main. Why should we give the carrot of inclusion on
> our ftp archive to those wh
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* Andrew Suffield [Wed, Dec 24 2003, 08:43:11PM]:
> This conflicts with the Social Contract as it currently stands. I am
> aware of this and I do not care; we can fix the Social Contract
> later. This probably prevents us from *acting* on this resolution
> until after the Social Contract
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* Andrew Suffield [Wed, Dec 24 2003, 08:43:11PM]:
> This conflicts with the Social Contract as it currently stands. I am
> aware of this and I do not care; we can fix the Social Contract
> later. This probably prevents us from *acting* on this resolution
> until after the Social Contract
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* Branden Robinson [Fri, Mar 07 2003, 03:23:37PM]:
> On Sat, Mar 01, 2003 at 11:37:15AM +1100, Brian May wrote:
> > On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 12:24:20PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
> > > On Thu, Feb 27, 2003 at 04:30:43PM +0100, Eduard Bloch wrote:
> > >
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* Branden Robinson [Fri, Mar 07 2003, 03:23:37PM]:
> On Sat, Mar 01, 2003 at 11:37:15AM +1100, Brian May wrote:
> > On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 12:24:20PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
> > > On Thu, Feb 27, 2003 at 04:30:43PM +0100, Eduard Bloch wrote:
> > >
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* Raphael Hertzog [Thu, Feb 27 2003, 10:04:08PM]:
> I've had debian-admin refusing to create me a CVS repository because
> it's too much work for them and I should better wait for
> the Debian Sourceforge (codenamed alioth.debian.org). And they have been
> refusing to create CVS repositor
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* Raphael Hertzog [Thu, Feb 27 2003, 10:04:08PM]:
> I've had debian-admin refusing to create me a CVS repository because
> it's too much work for them and I should better wait for
> the Debian Sourceforge (codenamed alioth.debian.org). And they have been
> refusing to create CVS repositor
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* Branden Robinson [Thu, Feb 27 2003, 09:09:20AM]:
> On Thu, Feb 27, 2003 at 11:05:21AM +0100, Eduard Bloch wrote:
> > Funny to hear it from someone still refusing to change few things to
> > improve useability on _small_ costs of mental consistency (remember
> > x-
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* Branden Robinson [Thu, Feb 27 2003, 09:09:20AM]:
> On Thu, Feb 27, 2003 at 11:05:21AM +0100, Eduard Bloch wrote:
> > Funny to hear it from someone still refusing to change few things to
> > improve useability on _small_ costs of mental consistency (remember
> > x-
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* Branden Robinson [Thu, Feb 27 2003, 04:25:34AM]:
> > can you tell me what "Our Users" in #4 of the social contract means?
> > Since Debian is not a market-share-seeking organization, we don't care
> > about people who don't use Debian, so it seems a tautology.
>
> I think it means tha
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* Branden Robinson [Thu, Feb 27 2003, 04:25:34AM]:
> > can you tell me what "Our Users" in #4 of the social contract means?
> > Since Debian is not a market-share-seeking organization, we don't care
> > about people who don't use Debian, so it seems a tautology.
>
> I think it means tha
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* Eduard Bloch [Fri, Feb 21 2003, 10:18:12AM]:
> their software is not supported by ancient versions in Woody...
...or hardware...
Gruss/Regards,
Eduard.
--
Atomkraft, strahlender Glanz ohne Abtrocknen.
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* Raphael Hertzog [Fri, Feb 21 2003, 12:48:11AM]:
> Ok, I'm tired, I'm sure I could have find dozen of other questions like
> those five ... but I'll let other people continue with questions like
> that if they like it.
Okay, let me ask some other questions...
6. Many people complaint
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* Eduard Bloch [Fri, Feb 21 2003, 10:18:12AM]:
> their software is not supported by ancient versions in Woody...
...or hardware...
Gruss/Regards,
Eduard.
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* Raphael Hertzog [Fri, Feb 21 2003, 12:48:11AM]:
> Ok, I'm tired, I'm sure I could have find dozen of other questions like
> those five ... but I'll let other people continue with questions like
> that if they like it.
Okay, let me ask some other questions...
6. Many people complaint
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