Hello,
On Fri 04 Apr 2025 at 12:41pm -06, Gunnar Wolf wrote:
> We see ourselves as an operational team, but not as a decision-making team,
> except when it comes to determining i.e. a given category of keys is no
> longer trustable (as we did back in 2014). Thus, we will be happy to add
> what wo
On Fri, Apr 04, 2025 at 01:57:01PM -0500, G. Branden Robinson wrote:
>
> > I also think in some cases more overlap would be helpful, such as
> > release team and ftpteam.
>
> Can you be more specific about where you see potential synergy here?
Both need to perform operations on the archive, remo
On Fri, Apr 04, 2025 at 01:04:10PM +0200, Simon Josefsson wrote:
> Ian Jackson writes:
>
> > REJECTED ALTERNATIVE - ADDING THE KEY TO THE DD KEYRING
> >
> > One approach that would let tag2upload function correctly, would be
> > adding the tag2upload service key to debian-keyring.gpg, as if it we
On Fri, Apr 04, 2025 at 06:19:14PM +0800, Sean Whitton wrote:
> And to the other candidates: do you agree about the seriousness of these
> issues? How will you approach them differently? How will you achieve
> more?
I think part of the reason here is that we have too many
responsibilities tied t
On Thu, Apr 03, 2025 at 01:17:48PM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Quoting Andreas' reply in an earlier thread:
>
> On 18/03/25 at 16:14 +0100, Andreas Tille wrote:
> > Understanding Debian's financial situation is essential for the DPL, as
> > one of the DPL's responsibilities is making d
On Sun, Mar 30, 2025 at 12:17:22AM +0530, Nilesh Patra wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I've three questions.
>
> 1. There are many contributors who maintain a large chunk of packages,
> including
> but not limited to key packages. The bus factor on some key packages is good,
> on
> others, it's usually one or
Philipp Kern writes ("Re: Call for volunteers and GR draft: tag2upload key
installation"):
> 2025-04-01: ansgar asks me to install dgit on fasolo to facilitate the
> integration. While complicated by the fact that fasolo is not upgraded to
> stable yet, it's installed the same morning (but not ins
Hello Ian,
Ian Jackson dijo [Fri, Apr 04, 2025 at 12:49:45PM +0100]:
(...)
As you write:
By including it in the official debian keyring package, we get some
historic accountability of which keys were used. You also get a way
to phase in new keys and phase out old keys.
keyring-maint, would y
On Saturday, March 29, 2025 8:57:24 AM Mountain Standard Time Nilesh
Patra wrote:
> On 29/03/25 9:13 pm, Soren Stoutner wrote:
> > On Saturday, March 29, 2025 2:34:35 AM Mountain Standard Time
> > Nilesh>
> > Patra wrote:
> >> On 28/03/25 9:33 pm, Gerardo Ballabio wrote:
> >>> I didn't realize it
Hello,
On Fri 21 Mar 2025 at 09:49am +01, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> I find your point, that interleaved quoting risks derailing the
> conversation, enlightening. Thanks for that.
Likewise.
> Taking your point into account, my advice is therefore not to top-post
> when responding to a post more
[This lengthy message resists summary, so I offer a single "pull quote"
in lieu thereof.
The delegation mechanism is not primarily for the benefit of the
delegates. Delegation exists to benefit the DPL and the Project.]
Hi Richard, Julian, Andreas, Gerardo, Gianfranco, and Soren,
I'm arranging
Hi,
On Fri, Apr 04, 2025 at 11:20:50AM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:
[ Dates adjusted to represent the correct year ]
> Here is a detailed timeline of the messages in the lasst month:
>
> 2025-03-14 We formally provide the production key
> and ask for it to be isntalled.
> 2025-03-15 An
Hi Ian
On 2025/04/04 11:08, Ian Jackson wrote:
Hi everyone.
tl;dr
We need to make an exceptional, short term delegation authorising
the installation of tag2upload's signing key on ftp-master.
We need two volunteers to take on this responsibility; please
volunteer in respon
Thanks to Andreas, Gianfranco, and others for pointing out that my
questions to the candidates would be improved by question marks.
As Debian Project Leader (DPL),
1. Will you remove the words "and Code of Conduct violations" from the
Community Team delegation charter?
2. Will you articula
On 20.03.25 20:35, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
I believe the question is if the nominees would be willing to support
the ideas explained in this email.
I feel it is appropriate to ask nominees for the DPL what they think
about specific issues as well as if they would support specific
actions/solutio
On Thursday, March 20, 2025 7:04:08 AM Mountain Standard Time Faidon
Liambotis wrote:
> Branden,
>
> On Thu, Mar 20, 2025 at 05:38:23AM -0500, G. Branden Robinson wrote:
> > Prompted in part by many years of reflection on the project's
> > strengths and weaknesses, I have a slate of recommendatio
Lucas Nussbaum wrote on 03/04/2025 at 13:17:48+0200:
> Hi,
>
> Quoting Andreas' reply in an earlier thread:
>
> On 18/03/25 at 16:14 +0100, Andreas Tille wrote:
>> Understanding Debian's financial situation is essential for the DPL, as
>> one of the DPL's responsibilities is making decisions on f
Jonathan Carter wrote on 04/04/2025 at 11:42:31+0200:
> Hi Ian
>
> On 2025/04/04 11:08, Ian Jackson wrote:
>> Hi everyone.
>> tl;dr
>> We need to make an exceptional, short term delegation
>> authorising
>> the installation of tag2upload's signing key on ftp-master.
>> We need two
hi all
Which big challenges do you see ahead of us?
AI and closed cloud systems
If you or someone else decide to create an AI team you can count me in,
it would be a very nice thing
kind regards
W.
Simon Josefsson writes ("Re: Call for volunteers and GR draft: tag2upload key
installation"):
> How about adding the tag2upload keys to a NEW keyring instead?
> https://salsa.debian.org/debian-keyring/keyring/
I think you're suggesting that this key should be in that package,
rather than installe
Hi Gianfranco,
Thanks!
On 04/04/25 at 11:35 +, Gianfranco Costamagna wrote:
> >What are the recent successes I might have missed?
>
> Server adoption, market share, reproducibility efforts, gdb symbols
> handling...
Regarding gdb symbols handling, could you be more specific? I found
https:
Hello Lucas
>How is Debian doing currently?
I think Debian is going great, but the market challenges shouldn't be missed.
>What are the recent successes I might have missed?
Server adoption, market share, reproducibility efforts, gdb symbols handling...
>Where did we fail or under-perform?
At
Hello Sean,
>And to the other candidates: do you agree about the seriousness of these
>issues? How will you approach them differently? How will you achieve
>more?
To me looks like we should split the ftp team in two. One for the new queue
handling, one
for the infrastructure.
If existing teams
Jonathan Carter writes ("Re: Call for volunteers and GR draft: tag2upload key
installation"):
> On 2025/04/04 11:08, Ian Jackson wrote:
> > ftpmaster don't want to see tag2upload in use, and so they are
> > choosing not to respond to our requests to install the key.
> > Therefore, we need to tempo
Ian Jackson writes:
> REJECTED ALTERNATIVE - ADDING THE KEY TO THE DD KEYRING
>
> One approach that would let tag2upload function correctly, would be
> adding the tag2upload service key to debian-keyring.gpg, as if it were
> a human uploading DD.
How about adding the tag2upload keys to a NEW key
G. Branden Robinson writes ("Re: Call for volunteers and GR draft: tag2upload
key installation"):
> Just to clarify, I do believe the Gregorian year is now 2025.
lol. Yes. All dates there were supposed to be 2025. I copied them
by eye, so that introduced the error.
Ian.
--
Ian JacksonTh
At 2025-04-04T11:20:50+0100, Ian Jackson wrote:
> Here is a detailed timeline of the messages in the lasst month:
>
> 2024-03-14 We formally provide the production key
> and ask for it to be isntalled.
> 2024-03-15 Ansgar sends us an obnoxious reply.
> 2024-03-15 Ian forwards Ansgar
Hello,
I'm phrasing this as a question for Andreas but I would like the other
candidates to offer their views on how they would try to improve the
situation. At the end I ask Andreas one question and the other
candidates some others.
In your Bits from the DPL at Debconf in Busan you told us that
On Fri, Apr 04, 2025 at 11:42:31AM +0200, Jonathan Carter wrote:
> I'm sorry Ian, but I couldn't second such a GR. I know you've worked on this
> for 6+ years and it's finished baking and ready for prime time, and that
> you're frustrated that it's not deployed yet, but I can't second something
> t
Hi everyone.
tl;dr
We need to make an exceptional, short term delegation authorising
the installation of tag2upload's signing key on ftp-master.
We need two volunteers to take on this responsibility; please
volunteer in response to this message if you can do it.
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