r...@debian.org wrote:
>Also, adopting systemd has been far from "easy." Just ask the systemd
>maintenance team in Debian, who I am sure are seriously questioning why
>they ever wanted to be the default init system right about now given all
>the work it entails!
Not really, I want that because it
Andrew McGlashan writes:
> On 1/11/2014 4:20 AM, Russ Allbery wrote:
>> I find this "giving in" language mystifying. Have you bought into this
>> idea that there's some sort of marketing campaign? Because as near as
>> I can tell that's a conspiracy theory for which I see little support.
>> As
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On 1/11/2014 4:20 AM, Russ Allbery wrote:
> I find this "giving in" language mystifying. Have you bought into this
> idea that there's some sort of marketing campaign? Because as near as I
> can tell that's a conspiracy theory for which I see littl
Andrew McGlashan writes:
> The trouble is that the "hedgehogs" seem to be going for the /easy/
> option of giving in to systemd,
I find this "giving in" language mystifying. Have you bought into this
idea that there's some sort of marketing campaign? Because as near as I
can tell that's a cons
Russ Allbery said:
>Andrew McGlashan writes:
>
>> If upstream is the problem, then they need lobbying; just accepting what
>> upstream does is a very serious problem
>
>I think this is an interesting statement. Personally, I would turn it on
>its head.
>
>I believe that the core, beautiful, exci
Andrew McGlashan wrote:
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I believe that the core, beautiful, exciting thing that we do inside
Debian, and that any other excellent Linux distribution does, is exactly
accepting what upstream does. Not acc
On 2014-10-31, Ivan Kharlamov wrote:
> Hi!
>
> Many DD's in their recent posts to debian-vote were assuming that
> ConsoleKit development has stopped and the component is deprecated. As
> far as I can tell, today it it not the case.
>
> One of the Xfce developers has forked it and is planning to m
On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 06:07:20PM +0900, Tristan Van Berkom wrote:
> Is systemd the problem or is the GNOME Desktop Environment[0] ?
Could you maybe address this within GNOME first instead of on Debian?
Going to Debian because you have a concern within GNOME seems rather
counter productive. First
On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 04:06:38PM +1100, Andrew McGlashan wrote:
> > I must note that this is a list of "Voting announcements and discussion"
> > and not yet another place where people, many of them non-DD and thus not
> > entitled to vote or take part in the pre-vote procedures, could endlessly
>
On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 11:02:22PM +0100, Svante Signell wrote:
> I should not have mentioned any company at` all, sorry :(
That would be the first step, yes.
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On Fri, 2014-10-31 at 09:37 +0530, Rustom Mody wrote:
> On Thu, 30 Oct 2014 16:54:33 +0900 Tristan van Berkom wrote:
> > [Disclaimer: I am not a debian developer myself and probably do not have
> > the right to vote here, I am however a long time contributor and
> > maintainer in GNOME who has be
Hi!
Many DD's in their recent posts to debian-vote were assuming that
ConsoleKit development has stopped and the component is deprecated. As
far as I can tell, today it it not the case.
One of the Xfce developers has forked it and is planning to maintain
it until systembsd matures. Possibly, even
Hi,
Andrew McGlashan:
> The trouble is that the "hedgehogs" seem to be going for the /easy/
> option of giving in to systemd, rather that thinking about what is
> actually best in the interests for their works ... perhaps systemd is
> the best for them because it is becoming the "tyranny of the de
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