Re: Anton's amendment

2006-02-05 Thread Hubert Chan
On Sun, 5 Feb 2006 21:14:12 -0600, Richard Darst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Mon, Feb 06, 2006 at 11:31:38AM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote: > [the topic is invariant sections] >> i challenge any of you zealots to come up with a REAL WORLD, PRACTICAL >> proof that the GFDL is non-free (and i mean

Re: Anton's amendment

2006-02-05 Thread Richard Darst
On Mon, Feb 06, 2006 at 11:31:38AM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote: [the topic is invariant sections] > i challenge any of you zealots to come up with a REAL WORLD, PRACTICAL > proof that the GFDL is non-free (and i mean actually non-free, not > merely inconvenient. the DFSG does not require convenien

Re: The invariant sections are not forbidden by DFSG

2006-02-05 Thread Hubert Chan
On Sun, 5 Feb 2006 14:30:40 +0100, Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Sun, Feb 05, 2006 at 12:37:00PM +, Stephen Gran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> This one time, at band camp, Mike Hommey said: >> > On Sun, Feb 05, 2006 at 06:17:19PM +1100, Craig Sanders <[EMAIL >> > PROTECTED]> w

Re: The invariant sections are not forbidden by DFSG

2006-02-05 Thread Hubert Chan
On Sun, 5 Feb 2006 18:17:19 +1100, Craig Sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Sat, Feb 04, 2006 at 04:42:41PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: >> Craig Sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >>> alternatively, print a single link to either the full documentation >>> (containing the invariant s

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Re: The invariant sections are not forbidden by DFSG

2006-02-05 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Mike Hommey said: > On Sun, Feb 05, 2006 at 12:37:00PM +, Stephen Gran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > This one time, at band camp, Mike Hommey said: > > > You forgot something... > > > > > > > If you publish or distribute Opaque copies of the Document > > >

Re: Anton's amendment

2006-02-05 Thread Craig Sanders
On Sun, Feb 05, 2006 at 05:55:54PM -0500, Zephaniah E. Hull wrote: > On Mon, Feb 06, 2006 at 09:34:19AM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote: > > so, your complaint is that if you delete the contents of the document, > > then you can no longer change it? > > > > are you for real? do you seriously take this

Re: Anton's amendment

2006-02-05 Thread Zephaniah E. Hull
On Mon, Feb 06, 2006 at 09:34:19AM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote: > On Sun, Feb 05, 2006 at 08:47:54AM -0500, Zephaniah E. Hull wrote: > > I am unconvinced that the DFSG means 'all modifications', I think that > > it really does mean all reasonable modifications. > > > > But the GFDL fails this, _ent

Re: Anton's amendment

2006-02-05 Thread Craig Sanders
On Sun, Feb 05, 2006 at 08:47:54AM -0500, Zephaniah E. Hull wrote: > I am unconvinced that the DFSG means 'all modifications', I think that > it really does mean all reasonable modifications. > > But the GFDL fails this, _entirely_. > > Even by the bounds of 'reasonable modifications' the GFDL wi

Re: The invariant sections are not forbidden by DFSG

2006-02-05 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sun, Feb 05, 2006 at 12:37:00PM +, Stephen Gran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This one time, at band camp, Mike Hommey said: > > On Sun, Feb 05, 2006 at 06:17:19PM +1100, Craig Sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > On Sat, Feb 04, 2006 at 04:42:41PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:

Re: Anton's amendment

2006-02-05 Thread Zephaniah E. Hull
On Thu, Feb 02, 2006 at 12:40:38PM +0200, Anton Zinoviev wrote: > On Wed, Feb 01, 2006 at 11:00:34PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > > > > Yes, I am uneasy myself on that clause. But see, I regard > > removal of copyright notices as prohibited by copyright law, and if > > the original p

Re: The invariant sections are not forbidden by DFSG

2006-02-05 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Mike Hommey said: > On Sun, Feb 05, 2006 at 06:17:19PM +1100, Craig Sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > On Sat, Feb 04, 2006 at 04:42:41PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > > > Craig Sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > > > alternatively, print a singl

Re: Anton's amendment

2006-02-05 Thread Anton Zinoviev
On Fri, Feb 03, 2006 at 06:21:19PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > > > I didn't mean one specific license, but the requirement of DFSG: > > >The license may restrict source-code from being distributed in > >modified form _only_ if the license allows the distribution of > >"patch files"

Re: The invariant sections are not forbidden by DFSG

2006-02-05 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sun, Feb 05, 2006 at 06:17:19PM +1100, Craig Sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, Feb 04, 2006 at 04:42:41PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > > Craig Sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > alternatively, print a single link to either the full documentation > > > (containing t