Re: who is looking for a new distro as a result of systemd (particularly server-side users)

2014-10-13 Thread golinux
On Mon, 10/13/14, Miles Fidelman wrote: Subject: who is looking for a new distro as a result of systemd (particularly server-side users) To: "debian-user" Date: Monday, October 13, 2014, 11:45 AM Folks, [cut] I'm really curious to know how many others here have come to a similar concl

Re: piece of mind (Re: Moderated posts?)

2014-10-14 Thread golinux
On Tue, 10/14/14, Jonathan Dowland wrote: Subject: Re: piece of mind (Re: Moderated posts?) To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Date: Tuesday, October 14, 2014, 1:56 AM You are still writing as if you are going to be forced to run systemd, despite being repeatedly told that multiple init syste

Re: piece of mind (Re: Moderated posts?)

2014-10-14 Thread golinux
On Tue, 10/14/14, Brian wrote: Subject: Re: piece of mind (Re: Moderated posts?) To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Date: Tuesday, October 14, 2014, 12:22 PM On Tue 14 Oct 2014 at 10:47:13 -0500, goli...@riseup.net wrote: On Tue, 10/14/14, Jonathan Dowland wrote: Subject: Re: piece of min

GR proposed re: choice of init systems

2014-10-16 Thread golinux
Now let's see what happens with this! https://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2014/10/msg1.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/3035ef569c222b0d9e8

Debian fork

2014-10-20 Thread golinux
Just in case you haven't seen this elsewhere: http://debianfork.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/d78701a6bef411e6c3736ba962f4a...@riseup.net

Censorship confirmed

2014-10-20 Thread golinux
Armstrong Having a hard time deciding between sarcasm . . . NICE! Or outrage . . . WTF! for a response. golinux -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Conta

Refracta systemd-free progress

2014-10-20 Thread golinux
Check out the outstanding progress that fsmithred and dzz are making with a systemd-free Refracta: http://refracta.freeforums.org/going-with-the-systemd-flow-or-not-t422-50.html#p4085 http://refracta.freeforums.org/going-with-the-systemd-flow-or-not-t422-60.html#p4086 Kudos to them!! Looking f

Re: Refracta systemd-free progress

2014-10-20 Thread golinux
On Mon, 10/20/14, Gary Dale wrote: Subject: Re: Refracta systemd-free progress To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Date: Monday, October 20, 2014, 10:33 PM On 20/10/14 08:39 PM, goli...@riseup.net wrote: Check out the outstanding progress that fsmithred and dzz are making with a systemd-free R

Re: If Not Systemd, then What?

2014-10-21 Thread golinux
ver on FDN already managed to port uselessd to Debian Jessie. (Most of the discussion is way over my pay grade.): http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=117944 golinux -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe

Who's locking down the code?

2014-10-25 Thread golinux
ptional in the upstream source." If upstream is allowing choice, why is Debian cutting it off? Maybe I'm missing something . . . golinux -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@li

Re: Who's locking down the code?

2014-10-25 Thread golinux
On 2014-10-25 12:14, Laurent Bigonville wrote: golinux wrote: Would appreciate comments on this observation: "Look at the source code (while you're at it, note who are the upstream maintainers of util-linux). Even they (so far) allow compilation without systemd. It is Debi

Re: Perfect Jessie is something like this...

2014-10-29 Thread golinux
md :~$ I've always preferred to have only installed what is needed. Unfortunately, this has become more and more difficult. It's ok to ship it. It shouldn't be installed when it's not needed. Yes to all of this. golinux -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@l

Re: FW: Time for compassion and the Init GR

2014-11-06 Thread golinux
On Thu, 11/6/14, Andrei POPESCU wrote: Subject: FW: Time for compassion and the Init GR To: "Debian-User" Date: Thursday, November 6, 2014, 3:55 PM - Forwarded message from Sam Hartman - Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2014 09:58:29 + From: Sam Hartman To: debian-proj...@lists.debian.

Joey Hess is out?

2014-11-07 Thread golinux
Joey Hess is leaving Debian. Anybody have a context? Anything to do with the systemd controversy and the monolithic direction Debian is going? https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2014/11/msg00174.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "uns

Re: Joey Hess is out?

2014-11-07 Thread golinux
ually READ Joey's post. Those were his very own words that were used in the subject: " . . . I wish everyone well, but I'M OUT." So your comment is just plain stupid IMO. golinux -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of &

Re: Joey Hess is out?

2014-11-08 Thread golinux
e were his very own words that were used in the subject: " . . . I wish everyone well, but I'M OUT." So your comment is just plain stupid IMO. golinux After reading the foofaraw over the word "out", I took the time to read Joey Hess' abdication message and then

Re: Perfect Jessie is something like this...

2014-11-08 Thread golinux
On Sat, 11/8/14, Hendrik Boom wrote: On Wed, 29 Oct 2014 13:16:45 -0500, golinux wrote: On Tue, 10/28/14, lee wrote: Subject: Re: Perfect Jessie is something like this... To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Date: Tuesday, October 28, 2014, 2:54 PM I am considering Funtoo. I would

Re: Has the systemd fork already happened?

2014-11-09 Thread golinux
-- hendrik Yes, Refracta is pure unmodified Debian and uses the Debian repos! As suggested, please join the forums and contribute expertise if possible. golinux -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe".

Re: Has the systemd fork already happened?

2014-11-09 Thread golinux
little research before opening mouth and inserting foot. There is no comparison between Refracta and bloated offerings like Ubuntu or Mint. In fact, it is downright insulting. In case you missed it, Refracta is a respin NOT a derivative distro. golinux -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to d

Re: Has the systemd fork already happened?

2014-11-09 Thread golinux
they're more likely to give answers that match their party line. I'll get to hear the other side here. -- hendrik Hahahaha!! That's pretty funny. There is no 'party line' over at Refracta. Just geeks doing their thin

Re: Has the systemd fork already happened?

2014-11-09 Thread golinux
jessie-with-sysvinit-t440.html Those guys won't give up without a hell of a fight - they are idealistic and very stubborn. I wouldn't be surprised if it was the end of Refracta if they don't succeed. (And that would put me into mourning. :( ) golinux -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, e

Re: Has the systemd fork already happened?

2014-11-09 Thread golinux
On Sun, 11/9/14, Jonathan Dowland wrote: Subject: Re: Has the systemd fork already happened? To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Date: Sunday, November 9, 2014, 4:03 PM On Sun, Nov 09, 2014 at 03:20:30PM -0600, golinux wrote: Please do little research before opening mouth and inserting foot

Re: Has the systemd fork already happened?

2014-11-09 Thread golinux
ect me. :) -- hendrik No correction from here. Sounds pretty on the mark to me. Refracta definitely does not suffer from SNS* syndrome . . . which is one reason it feels like 'home' to me. :) golinux *Shiny New S**t -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ.

Re: systemd - so much energy wasted in quarreling

2014-11-10 Thread golinux
On Mon, 11/10/14, Hans wrote: Subject: systemd - so much energy wasted in quarreling To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Date: Monday, November 10, 2014, 11:23 AM Hi all, [cut] - If you do not like the behaviour of Leonard Poettering, do not quarrel with him. Hey, I guess,he wants a good s

Re: Installing an Alternative Init?

2014-11-12 Thread golinux
On Wed, 11/12/14, Tanstaafl wrote: Subject: Re: Installing an Alternative Init? To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Date: Wednesday, November 12, 2014, 5:10 AM On 11/11/2014 3:33 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote: Actually, there's a patch (thank you Kenshi). It has not been applied. Hence, to use i

Re: Web site conformance and various browsers

2014-11-17 Thread golinux
On Mon, 11/17/14, songbird wrote: Subject: Web site conformance and various browsers To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Date: Monday, November 17, 2014, 7:45 AM sometimes i have issues with a website and i cannot tell if it is a problem with the browser or a problem with the website. obviou

Not this again

2014-11-17 Thread golinux
UGH! Looks like Gregory Smith has returned with a new handle - SystemBlues. Does anybody read his swill? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/b4e40d9945

Re: the developers have spoken

2014-11-19 Thread golinux
Squeeze and Wheezy (and possibly Jessie - jury is still out) get to EOL . . . golinux (soon to be linuxrip) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.

Re: Modular-debian: a list for discussing init-system alternatives

2014-11-19 Thread golinux
7;s guess what the future will hold. I'm watching from the sidelines at present. golinux -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/f70f13e220ee64f11755c1fd3ee07...@riseup.net

Re: the developers have spoken

2014-11-19 Thread golinux
On Wed, 11/19/14, Scott Ferguson wrote: Subject: Re: the developers have spoken To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Date: Wednesday, November 19, 2014, 7:25 PM [cut] You must be thinking of someone else. Indeed, after re-reading, I am (Golinux). My apologies for that

Re: Got skype 4.2 to connect again

2014-08-19 Thread golinux
eeded any more! Yeah! Have fun! Works like a charm! How in the world did you figure that out? Hugo --- Great tip! There is a similar workaround for the Tab Killer add-on for FF. Just change the number in the configuration file and it works too. golinux -- To U

Choose your side on the Linux divide

2014-08-25 Thread golinux
Choose your side on the Linux divide To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Choose your side on the Linux divide From: Steve Litt Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2014 18:44:23 -0400 Message-id: <20140825184423.56668...@mydesq2.domain.cxm> Hi all, Perhaps the horse I was beating wasn't

Re: Choose your side on the Linux divide

2014-08-26 Thread golinux
On Tue, 8/26/14, B wrote: Subject: Re: Choose your side on the Linux divide To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Date: Tuesday, August 26, 2014, 11:16 PM On Tue, 26 Aug 2014 21:18:23 -0400 Miles Fidelman wrote: To some material that at least one list member (me) found very useful and inf

Re: Let's have a vote! I was just banned from debian forum for posting a systemd critical message.

2014-09-25 Thread golinux
On Thu, 9/25/14, Gregory Smith wrote: Subject: Re: Let's have a vote! I was just banned from debian forum for posting a systemd critical message. To: "row...@ptd.net" Cc: "debian-user@lists.debian.org" Date: Thursday, September 25, 2014, 11:51 AM I was just banned from debian forum for

Kernel failure

2014-12-12 Thread golinux
On squeeze LTS. Upgraded the kernel 2 days ago. Everything was going OK. Then out of nowhere I get a kernel failure popup after coming out of suspend. Everything seems to be working OK so I've just gone on about my business. But don't want to get bit down the road. What should I do? This

Re: Kernel failure

2014-12-16 Thread golinux
On Tue, 12/16/14, Kushal Kumaran wrote: Subject: Re: Kernel failure To: "Go Linux" Cc: "Debian User" Date: Tuesday, December 16, 2014, 12:18 AM For problems with squeeze lts release, send email to the debian-lts[1] mailing list. Given that your system is basically functional, and also