Re: The Fine Art of Making a Bootable Drive

2014-08-04 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 7:33 AM, Martin G. McCormick wrote: > > It turns out that the reason I never thought of using mkfs to > build a working boot sector is that mkfs doesn't do that. Grub, > however, does but I am still a bit confused as to how to get it > working. I mounted the new drive on /mn

Re: End of hypocrisy ?

2014-08-04 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 10:37 AM, Andrew McGlashan wrote: > On 4/08/2014 11:32 PM, Tom H wrote: >> On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 6:37 AM, Andrew McGlashan >> wrote: >>> My own view is "why systemd" fix sysinit instead, where it is >>> broken or rather

Re: NFS and iptables during bootup

2014-08-04 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 10:52 AM, Martin T wrote: > > I made a very simple bash script which loads the iptables > configuration from /etc/firewall.conf and /etc/firewall6.conf files: > > # cat /etc/init.d/firewall > #!/bin/bash > > iptables-restore < /etc/firewall.conf > ip6tables-restore < /etc/fi

Re: End of hypocrisy ?

2014-08-04 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 11:20 AM, Slavko wrote: > Dňa Tue, 05 Aug 2014 00:37:06 +1000 Andrew McGlashan > napísal: >> On 4/08/2014 11:32 PM, Tom H wrote: >>> On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 6:37 AM, Andrew McGlashan >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> systemd g

Re: The Fine Art of Making a Bootable Drive

2014-08-04 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 10:57 AM, Martin G. McCormick wrote: > Tom H writes: >> >> Are you mounting "/mnt/{dev,proc,sys}" before chrooting? > > No. I did try the mount command after chrooting which successfully ran, but > didn't fix the missing /dev.

Re: End of hypocrisy ?

2014-08-04 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 3:44 PM, Erwan David wrote: > > What takes most time when booting a server is what the server does > before booting the OS (before grub in case of linux). Optimising what > comes after is non-sense. And VMs? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.or

Re: End of hypocrisy ?

2014-08-04 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 4:04 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: > Andrew McGlashan wrote: >> >> Yes, that's what I meant, sysvinit is not broken. > > I rather agree. But the opponents cite corner cases where the > previous security model doesn't handle every possible access case. > > I always hate it when peopl

Re: End of hypocrisy ?

2014-08-04 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 4:18 PM, Andrew McGlashan wrote: > On 5/08/2014 5:44 AM, Erwan David wrote: >> Le 04/08/2014 21:34, Tom H a écrit : >>> >>> Suppose that you have a 16-node cluster, some patches were applied to >>> the systems overnight, a mistake was ma

Re: End of hypocrisy ?

2014-08-04 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 5:56 PM, Brian wrote: > On Mon 04 Aug 2014 at 17:17:02 -0400, Tom H wrote: > >> Didn't all DEs use consolekit and policykit? IIRC wasn't the CTTE bug >> filed because of a debian-devel@ thread about Gnome depending on >> systemd (becau

Re: End of hypocrisy ?

2014-08-05 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 6:28 PM, Steve Litt wrote: > On Mon, 4 Aug 2014 14:03:35 +0200 > Raffaele Morelli wrote: >> >> I've seen tons of posts sent to this list about systemd... bla bla >> bla... and did not understand what's the matter with it. >> >> I wonder what are you all doing with your init

Re: End of hypocrisy ?

2014-08-05 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 6:44 PM, Steve Litt wrote: > On Mon, 4 Aug 2014 15:34:22 -0400 > Tom H wrote: >> On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 10:37 AM, Andrew McGlashan >> wrote: >>> On 4/08/2014 11:32 PM, Tom H wrote: > >>> Sure it counts, but if you have 1000s of

Re: End of hypocrisy ?

2014-08-05 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 7:21 PM, Joel Rees wrote: > On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 6:20 AM, Tom H wrote: >> On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 4:18 PM, Andrew McGlashan >> wrote: >>> On 5/08/2014 5:44 AM, Erwan David wrote: >>>> Le 04/08/2014 21:34, Tom H a écrit : >>

Re: Wireless card unavailable in Debian, but works in Ubuntu

2014-08-05 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 2:18 AM, S4mmael wrote: > > I have a liittle problem with a wireless card of a cheap HP laptop. It works > perfectly well out of the box in Ubuntu 14.04, but not in Debian Jessie. > > Here is what a managed to find. > > In Ubuntu it looks like that: > > root@ubuntu:~# dmesg

Re: End of hypocrisy ?

2014-08-05 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 2:45 AM, Erwan David wrote: > On Mon, Aug 04, 2014 at 11:17:02PM CEST, Tom H said: >> On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 4:04 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: >>> Andrew McGlashan wrote: >>>> >>>> Yes, that's what I meant, sysvinit is not broken.

Re: End of hypocrisy ?

2014-08-05 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 9:50 AM, Slavko wrote: > Dňa Tue, 5 Aug 2014 08:58:47 -0400 Tom H napísal: >> >> If tomh-init is faster than htom-init, whether there's just ssh >> running or 100 daemons running, I want to use tomh-init. >> >> I can understand that th

Re: End of hypocrisy, beginning of reason

2014-08-05 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 3:44 PM, Steve Litt wrote: > > LOL, perhaps I'll boot to bin/bash, and then run a script to do > everything else. Oh wait, I can't do that: I hear PAM now depends on > systemd, for what reason I haven't a clue. Maybe you should look into adapting the Android Init Language :

Re: End of hypocrisy, beginning of reason

2014-08-05 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 4:12 PM, AW wrote: > > cat /var/log/auth.log > or > journalctl 'something unknown by me' journalctl SYSLOG_FACILITY=4 There's tab completion, so on my laptop where I've aliased systemctl and journalctl to sc and jc (and duplicated the systemctl and journalctl bash completi

Re: End of hypocrisy, beginning of reason

2014-08-06 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 7:01 PM, AW wrote: > On Tue, 5 Aug 2014 17:57:02 -0400 > Tom H wrote: >> >> journalctl SYSLOG_FACILITY=4 > > Thanks! > But why '4'? Why not '42'? Or even better... > journalctl show auth > journalctl show apache

Re: End of hypocrisy, beginning of reason

2014-08-06 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 2:53 AM, Erwan David wrote: > On Wed, Aug 06, 2014 at 01:01:57AM CEST, AW > said: >> On Tue, 5 Aug 2014 17:57:02 -0400 >> Tom H wrote: >>> >>> journalctl SYSLOG_FACILITY=4 >> >> Thanks! >> But why '4'? Why n

Re: End of hypocrisy ?

2014-08-06 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 5:54 AM, Slavko wrote: > Dňa Tue, 5 Aug 2014 16:33:23 -0400 Tom H napísal: >> On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 9:50 AM, Slavko wrote: >>> Dňa Tue, 5 Aug 2014 08:58:47 -0400 Tom H >>> napísal: >>>> If tomh-init is faster than htom-init, w

Re: End of hypocrisy ?

2014-08-06 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 4:27 PM, AW wrote: > On Wed, 6 Aug 2014 16:25:21 -0400 > Tom H wrote: >> >> So, yeah, /var/log/messages sucks, and journalctl is better at >> generating a compatible output that that file ever was in itself. > > I definitely agree.

Re: End of hypocrisy ?

2014-08-07 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 11:49 AM, AW wrote: > On Thu, 7 Aug 2014 16:19:03 +0100 > Darac Marjal wrote: > > > Consider it to be another database format. You wouldn't necessarily try > > to cat a MySQL or PostgreSQL datastore; you'd use the appropriate tools > > to select all from it. > > Yes. Bu

Re: End of hypocrisy ?

2014-08-08 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 3:12 AM, Slavko wrote: > Dňa Wed, 6 Aug 2014 16:25:21 -0400 Tom H napísal: >> >> I've saved one or two relevant URLs from debian-devel@ pre-CTTE bug >> thread. I can dig them up and post them if you're interested. > > Please, give the

Re: Systemd: follow-up

2014-08-08 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 6:57 PM, Joel Rees wrote: > On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 4:04 AM, Brian wrote: >> On Thu 07 Aug 2014 at 20:25:22 +0200, Johann Spies wrote: >> >>> After rescuing two laptops which were unbootable after the installation of >>> systemd-sysfs I had problems with stuff as bluetooth a

Re: NFS and iptables during bootup

2014-08-08 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 11:47 AM, Martin T wrote: > > I moved the script from /etc/init.d to /etc/network directory and > changed the shebang line from /bin/bash to /bin/sh. /bin/sh on my > system points to /bin/dash. Thanks for those tips! > > Content of firewall rule-files can be seen here: > > #

Re: End of hypocrisy ?

2014-08-09 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 4:19 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: > Zenaan Harkness wrote: >> Joel Rees wrote: >>> >>> This is precisely why systemd should have been brought up to speed in >>> a separate, parallel, volunteer-only distro. >>> >>> (If you don't understand what I mean by a separate, parallel, >>> vo

Re: Question about dch

2014-08-09 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 10:52 AM, George Shuklin wrote: > > dch -i tool allows to add new version to debian/changelog file. > > When I add new version I make this: > > package (1.0.2-1myname1-ubuntu0) UNRELEASED; urgency=medium > > * > -- signature and date > > package (1.0.2-1myname1) unstable;

Re: Question about dch

2014-08-10 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 2:18 PM, George Shuklin wrote: > On 08/09/2014 07:16 PM, Tom H wrote: >> On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 10:52 AM, George Shuklin >> wrote: >>> >>> dch -i tool allows to add new version to debian/changelog file. >>> >>> When I

Re: NFS and iptables during bootup

2014-08-10 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 3:40 PM, Martin T wrote: > On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 6:33 AM, Tom H wrote: >> On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 11:47 AM, Martin T wrote: >>> >>> I moved the script from /etc/init.d to /etc/network directory and >>> changed the shebang line from

Re: Netflix in chrome-unstable on Debian Sid

2014-08-10 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 10:51 PM, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > And what is that "google-chrome-unstable deb"? Does that have a version > number? $ apt-cache show google-chrome-unstable | grep Ver Version: 38.0.2114.2-1 $ apt-cache show google-chrome-beta | grep Ver Version: 37.0.2062.68-1 $ apt-cache

Re: Irony

2014-08-10 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 4:47 PM, AW wrote: > On Sat, 9 Aug 2014 16:26:40 -0400 > Steve Litt wrote: >> >> Some of the reasons I switched my desktop from Ubuntu to Debian were: >> >> 1) To do more config by editor and less by magical binary program. >> >> 2) To get rid of gratuitous boot gunge (in t

Re: End of hypocrisy ?

2014-08-10 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 1:15 AM, Bob Proulx wrote: > Tom H wrote: >> Bob Proulx wrote: >>> >>> I believe the point was that it should be "make before break". They >>> should have allowed people to use systemd without preventing people >>> f

Re: Quiet Bootups

2014-08-10 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 6:36 AM, David Baron wrote: > > With Grub, I did not see that endless stream of text pouring on the screen to > rapidly to read. > > Because I (presumably) know how to configure it, I have gone back to lilo. Now > have all that text back. Is there an append= or lilo.conf en

Re: Question about dch

2014-08-10 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 5:26 AM, Tom H wrote: > On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 2:18 PM, George Shuklin > wrote: >> On 08/09/2014 07:16 PM, Tom H wrote: >>> >>> From the man page: >>> >>> --increment, -i >>> Increment either the final com

Re: System broken after full-upgrade: please help!

2014-08-10 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 8:46 AM, The Wanderer wrote: > On 08/10/2014 02:45 AM, Bonno Bloksma wrote: >> >> Charlie: According to the man pages all 3, halt, poweroff and reboot, >> use the shutdown command to perform the necessary steps when not >> starting in runlevel 0 or 6, which is pretty much a

Re: System broken after full-upgrade: please help!

2014-08-10 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 9:29 AM, The Wanderer wrote: > On 08/10/2014 09:26 AM, Tom H wrote: >> On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 8:46 AM, The Wanderer >> wrote: >>> On 08/10/2014 02:45 AM, Bonno Bloksma wrote: >>>> >>>> If halt or reboot is called wh

Re: System broken after full-upgrade: please help!

2014-08-10 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 10:26 AM, The Wanderer wrote: > On 08/10/2014 10:15 AM, Tom H wrote: >> On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 9:29 AM, The Wanderer >> wrote: >>> On 08/10/2014 09:26 AM, Tom H wrote: >>>> >>>> halt/poweroff/reboot have called shutdown at

Re: Debian Jessie Release

2014-08-10 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 2:12 PM, Erwan David wrote: > > PS: and I am still waiting for the replacement of policy-rc.d We know; you've complained here more than once. Have you filed a bug report? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe".

Re: IP Forwarding to Windows machine

2014-08-10 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Nemeth Gyorgy wrote: > 2014-08-10 11:33 keltezéssel, Pascal Hambourg írta: >> >> Nemeth Gyorgy's ruleset is too complicated. Use the bare minimum : >> >> sysctl -w net.ipv4.ip_forward=1 >> iptables -t nat -P ACCEPT >> iptables -t filter -P ACCEPT > > This is really

Re: IP Forwarding to Windows machine

2014-08-12 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 4:30 PM, Joe wrote: > On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 16:07:01 -0400 > Tom H wrote: >> On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Nemeth Gyorgy >> wrote: >>> 2014-08-10 11:33 keltezéssel, Pascal Hambourg írta: >>>> >>>> sysctl -w n

Re: Irony

2014-08-12 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 3:31 PM, Charles Kroeger wrote: > On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 21:50:01 +0200 > Lisi Reisz wrote: >> >> I had understood that Debian is in this, as in many things, different from >> most Linux distros. > > Yes you're right, that's what makes Debian special, passion always trumps >

Re: IP Forwarding to Windows machine

2014-08-12 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 5:19 AM, Joe wrote: > On Tue, 12 Aug 2014 04:53:51 -0400 > Tom H wrote: >> >> And you've proven my point... > > Agreed, I just can't see why there is any controversy. You misunderstand. The fact that you can't accept that t

Re: systemd fails to poweroff - "A stop job is running for Session 2 of user $USER"

2014-08-12 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 10:50 AM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > Debian sid > > systemd currently fails to poweroff for me > > XFCE (appears to) exit, the mouse point shows > for a while, then the kernel/ shutdown log appears. > > The last message is: > "A stop job is running for Session 2 of user me"

Re: systemd fails to poweroff - "A stop job is running for Session 2 of user $USER"

2014-08-13 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 2:51 PM, Paul E Condon wrote: > > I interpret the quoted string in the Subject: header as being flawed > use of English language. 'stop' should be 'stopped'. And, there is a > bug in the script that fails to evaluate the variable USER and > therefore fails to print the name

Re: Irony

2014-08-13 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Charles Kroeger wrote: > On Tue, 12 Aug 2014 11:50:02 +0200 > Tom H wrote: > >> Debian isn't as special as you think, at least not from this perspective. > > Everybody earns money and needs money in this development. Organizations l

Re: systemd fails to poweroff - "A stop job is running for Session 2 of user $USER"

2014-08-14 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 1:04 AM, Paul E Condon wrote: > > In English, both 'stop job' and 'stopped job' are an adjective > modifying a noun. The noun in both cases is 'job'. 'stop job' is a > noun phrase expressing a type of job, and must be some kind of geeky > usage. OTOH, the noun phrase 'stopp

Re: networking fails with temporary systemd (was auto starting of ppp has stopped working)

2014-08-14 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 10:32 AM, Rusi Mody wrote: > > To add to my earlier report: > > I managed to remove graphviz and its associated libraries. > > So that now aptitude dist-upgrade gives me only 1 'issue' : > > The following packages have unmet dependencies: > systemd-sysv : Conflicts: sysvin

Re: networking fails with temporary systemd (was auto starting of ppp has stopped working)

2014-08-17 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 12:14 PM, Rusi Mody wrote: > On Thursday, August 14, 2014 9:10:02 PM UTC+5:30, Tom H wrote: >> On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 10:32 AM, Rusi Mody wrote: >>> >>> To add to my earlier report: >>> I managed to remove graphviz and its associated

Re: Irony

2014-08-17 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 10:10 PM, Paul E Condon wrote: > > In my view SQL is a query language that can do much more than look up > records in a single table. To claim that some init system is superior > to some other init system because it has 'SQL logging' is, as Andrew > said, silly. Almost none

Re: systemd fails to poweroff - "A stop job is running for Session 2 of user $USER"

2014-08-17 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 7:46 AM, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 10:35:11AM -0400, Tom H wrote: >> >> "Stop" in "stop job" isn't an adjective, it's a noun (or an >> attributive noun) just like "office" in "o

Re: Jessie won't install

2014-08-17 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 8:47 AM, Francesco Ariis wrote: > On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 02:24:53PM +0200, Diogene Laerce wrote: >> >> Jessie (last testing version) does not want to install in a VM. It just >> get stucked > > If it regards Jessie, probably debian-testing [1] is a better place where > to

Re: auto starting of ppp has stopped working

2014-08-17 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 7:15 AM, Michael Biebl wrote: > Am 01.08.2014 10:45, schrieb Tom H: > >> Either "/etc/modprobe.d/.conf" or in "/etc/modules" if the >> former isn't early enough. > > You are mixing two things up here: > > /etc/modp

Re: Busybox: compile statically?

2014-08-20 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 12:25 PM, antispammbox-debian wrote: > > How to compile busybox in static mode, adding some utility different from > the usual, -dd, cat, other,... -, example, partimage, with all the > dependencies, compress it, and install on a usb stick? You can get the Debian source, m

Re: Got skype 4.2 to connect again

2014-08-20 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 4:53 AM, Hans wrote: > > just another thing relating to this. I would like to repack the debian package > and would like to change these in the package: > > - changelog > - skype binary > > I tried dpkg-deb -x and also with -e, but I guess, this is wrong, as it did > not wo

Re: Got skype 4.2 to connect again

2014-08-20 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 1:02 PM, Tom H wrote: > > Edit build/DEBIAN/control and bump up "Version: " (or create > a "Version" line of it doesn't exist because dpkg-deb needs it but > dpkg-buildpackage doesn't so it might not be there). I felt that this

Re: sysvinit->systemd transition details

2014-08-24 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Alexandre Ferrieux wrote: > On Saturday, August 23, 2014 3:00:02 PM UTC+2, Brian wrote: >> On Fri 22 Aug 2014 at 17:20:03 -0700, Alexandre Ferrieux wrote: >>> I have a Jessie-based system, which up to the last upgrade used >>> sysvinit of course, and where I had

Re: /etc/rc.local and systemd

2014-08-24 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 11:45 AM, Stephen Powell wrote: > > I just thought I'd pass along something that I recently discovered. > When using sysvinit as the init system, if the file /etc/rc.local > exists and is executable, it will be invoked at the tail end of the > boot process. But under system

Re: /etc/rc.local and systemd

2014-08-25 Thread Tom H
Resending to the list On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 2:12 PM, Erwan David wrote: > Le 24/08/2014 19:31, Tom H a écrit : >> >> With v208, there's a generator, >> "/lib/systemd/system-generators/systemd-rc-local-generator", that >> creates a symlink a

Re: I hate network-manager (was /etc/rc.local and systemd)

2014-08-25 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 6:00 PM, Stephen Powell wrote: > On Sun, 24 Aug 2014 15:44:26 -0400 (EDT), David Baron wrote: >> On Sunday 24 August 2014 11:45:40 Stephen Powell wrote: > I have a static route command in my /etc/rc.local file to define > a route to another network. I won't go into the re

Re: Help: Ubuntu 12.04LTS/14.04LTS PXE/netboot/preseed - does not initiate installation

2014-08-25 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 3:10 AM, Snow Leopard wrote: > > I stumbled on a problem with Ubuntu installation PXE/netboot/preseed. > > OS: Ubuntu 12.04LTS/14.04LTS > > I have setup for DHCP/TFTP/NFS which allows me to boot over network "Live > Ubuntu" and everything works as it should. > > Next logica

Re: Choose your side on the Linux divide

2014-08-26 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 6:44 PM, Steve Litt wrote: > > http://www.infoworld.com/d/data-center/choose-your-side-the-linux-divide-248950?source=IFWNLE_nlt_daily_pm_2014-08-25 There's a OT list for this BS. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsub

Re: cdimage.debian.org how-to? what gives? [solved]

2014-03-23 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 6:38 PM, Paul E Condon wrote: > > Hello everyone, I'm OP and I'm still adamant about what I did, and > what I saw. The URL, https://www.debian.org/CD/ does lead one to > images of CDs as stated by John H. So, my initial problem is solved. > > But what is an explanation of m

Re: Details behind a GRUB2 warning message?

2014-04-04 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 8:15 AM, Brian wrote: > On Thu 03 Apr 2014 at 14:32:26 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > >> I posted this to help-g...@gnu.org a week ago and got no response. >> Specifically I'm using GRUB 1.98 as installed by Squeeze. >> >> " >> I wish to install GRUB2 in a way that is active

Re: Details behind a GRUB2 warning message?

2014-04-05 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 9:59 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: > > Thank you. My individual use case appears to be adequately safe, perhaps > more due to good luck than good management. However a couple of side > comments plus something I read somewhere hints at a more elegant solution. > Will have to some

Re: pool to dists assocation?

2014-04-06 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 10:15 PM, Don Armstrong wrote: > On Sat, 05 Apr 2014, Peter Michaux wrote: >> >> Using dpkg --info for these two packages, I don't see what information >> is used about the package so that dpkg-ftparchive knows with which >> distribution to associate each package. > > The as

Re: pool to dists assocation?

2014-04-06 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 12:46 AM, Peter Michaux wrote: > On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 7:15 PM, Don Armstrong wrote: >> On Sat, 05 Apr 2014, Peter Michaux wrote: >>> >>> Using dpkg --info for these two packages, I don't see what information >>> is used about the package so that dpkg-ftparchive knows with

Re: Details behind a GRUB2 warning message?

2014-04-24 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 1:22 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: > Tom H wrote: >> >> Let's assume that you have two Linux installations on sda, on sda1 and >> sda2, and that grub is embedded in the mbr of sda for sda1 and in the >> pbr/vbr of sda2 for sda2. > > I

Re: Well I am in XFCE for right now since LDXE keeps crapping out

2014-04-24 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 4:11 AM, Slavko wrote: > Dňa Mon, 21 Apr 2014 23:51:33 -0500 "c. marlow" > napísal: >> >> Im so exhausted I just about give up on Linux, just about ready to >> scrape up the money, go to walmart and buy me a Windows Machine.. In >> the last week I have tried LMDE both made

Re: Personal Recommendations for Free List Compatible Email Service

2014-04-24 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 10:16 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Wed, 2014-04-23 at 14:08 +, mailer-dae...@yahoo.com wrote: > Sorry, we were unable to deliver your message to the following address. >> >> : >> Remote host said: 550 5.7.1 : Recipient >> address rejected: Mail appeared to be SPAM or f

Re: Alternatives to grub and lilo? was grub2 menu problems

2014-04-24 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 12:18 PM, Steve Litt wrote: > > Grub used to be good software. Predictable, non-surprising, one config > file you edited with an editor. Those days are gone. > > Now, with grub 2, I need to be an expert on seven or so files that get > processed into one big one, which acts

Re: Q: nfs server fails to mount own exported resource, but other client able to mount

2014-04-24 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 4:49 AM, Snow Leopard wrote: > > I came across strange "mount" problem on nfs server -- it refuses to mount > it's own directory while other nfs clients able mount nfs server exported > directory just fine > > 1. nfs server > name: install.myclub.com > OS: wheeze (D

Re: Alternatives to grub and lilo? was grub2 menu problems

2014-04-24 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 4:38 AM, Kruppt wrote: > On 2014-04-23, Steve Litt wrote: >> >> Is there a simpler bootloader that works with Linux? I don't want GUI. >> I don't want a framebuffer. I don't want a splash screen. And I don't >> want to wade through seven files to turn those things off. Bas

Re: Alternatives to grub and lilo? was grub2 menu problems

2014-04-24 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 9:41 AM, Darac Marjal wrote: > On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 03:35:18PM +0200, maderios wrote: >> On 04/23/2014 06:18 PM, Steve Litt wrote: >> >> >Now, with grub 2, I need to be an expert on seven or so files that get >> >processed into one big one, which acts as the config. I do

Re: Personal Recommendations for Free List Compatible Email Service

2014-04-24 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 11:23 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Thu, 2014-04-24 at 09:26 -0400, Tom H wrote: >> On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 10:16 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >>> On Wed, 2014-04-23 at 14:08 +, mailer-dae...@yahoo.com wrote: >>> OK, now this doesn't work a

Re: Q: nfs server fails to mount own exported resource, but other client able to mount

2014-04-24 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 2:06 PM, Snow Leopard wrote: > > the mystery has been resolved -- question how did I not catch it right away? > > I found that my old Red Hat system and Debian Wheezy/Squeezy resolve > computer name into ip address in different ways. > > Red Hat mount maps computer name to

Re: sudo in X-environment

2014-05-01 Thread Tom H
On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 4:51 AM, Johann Spies wrote: > > For years I have used sudo both in server administration and on the desktop. > > Lately I get the following error message and I do not really know what to do > about it other than logging into the xserver as root - which I do not want > to do

Re: qemu not grabbing control keys

2014-05-01 Thread Tom H
On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 5:23 AM, Ólafur Jens Sigurðsson wrote: > > Hi, if I try to run images with kvm I cant switch to virtual consoles > with ctrl-alt-(1/2/3) no matter what key combination I use (default is > ctrl-alt, starting kvm with -alt-grab makes it ctrl-alt-shift, starting > with -ctrl-gr

Re: sudo in X-environment

2014-05-01 Thread Tom H
On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 12:30 PM, Артур Истомин wrote: > On Thu, May 01, 2014 at 10:51:21AM +0200, Johann Spies wrote: >> >> For years I have used sudo both in server administration and on the desktop. >> >> Lately I get the following error message and I do not really know what to do >> about it ot

Re: qemu not grabbing control keys

2014-05-01 Thread Tom H
On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 1:58 PM, Ólafur Jens Sigurðsson wrote: > On Thu, May 01, 2014 at 07:13:16AM -0400, Tom H wrote: >> On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 5:23 AM, Ólafur Jens Sigurðsson >> wrote: >> >> There may be a less keyboard-intensive way but it's the only way that

Re: qemu not grabbing control keys

2014-05-02 Thread Tom H
On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 3:04 PM, Ólafur Jens Sigurðsson wrote: > > I tried that, didnt work. Neither does -alt-grab work. But in all cases > grabbing and ungrabbing the mouse works. So normally the ctrl-alt grabs > ungrabs the mouse but ctrl-alt-2 does not give me the qemu console, with > the -alt-

Re: sudo in X-environment

2014-05-02 Thread Tom H
On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 10:30 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Fri, 2014-05-02 at 14:04 +0200, Slavko wrote: >> Dňa Thu, 1 May 2014 20:33:17 + Артур Истомин >> napísal: >>> On Thu, May 01, 2014 at 07:29:08PM +0100, Tom Furie wrote: Here, have a wrapper script #!/bin/sh xho

Re: Upgrade debacle........

2014-05-02 Thread Tom H
On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 7:48 PM, Charlie wrote: > > I case it hasn't been fixed at the source and you missed it Paul. Ralf > put it right for me, but my system was more damaged than yours for some > reason? Probably my system was a little too lean and mean. So I had to > install: > > libgdk-pixbuf2

Re: `ls` shows file, `bash` says "No such file" ???

2014-05-02 Thread Tom H
On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 10:25 PM, Tom Roche wrote: > > For background on my problem (and why I very much need to solve it), > see http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=190&t=166506&p=855700#p855700 > > But the essence of the problem appears to be > > me@it ~ $ /usr/local/share/firefox-3.6.28/

Re: Upgrade debacle........

2014-05-02 Thread Tom H
On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 1:33 AM, Charlie wrote: > On Sat, 3 May 2014 01:12:23 -0400 Tom H sent: > >> And the message: >> Try running the command >> gdk-pixbuf-query-loaders > >> /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/gdk-pixbuf-2.0/2.10.0/loaders.cache >> to ma

Re: sudo in X-environment

2014-05-02 Thread Tom H
On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 1:35 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Sat, 2014-05-03 at 07:24 +0200, Slavko wrote: >> >> sux was removed from testing and unstable, then it is not a solution to >> future. > > It's just a short script everybody could copy & paste from any other > distro or from upstream, http:/

Re: `ls` shows file, `bash` says "No such file" ???

2014-05-03 Thread Tom H
On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 2:10 AM, filip wrote: > On Fri, 02 May 2014 22:25:34 -0400 > Tom Roche wrote: > >> >> For background on my problem (and why I very much need to solve it), >> see >> http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=190&t=166506&p=855700#p855700 >> >> But the essence of the proble

Re: Upgrade debacle........

2014-05-03 Thread Tom H
On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 2:13 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Sat, 2014-05-03 at 02:02 -0400, Tom H wrote: >> >> For x86_32: >> /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/gdk-pixbuf-2.0/gdk-pixbuf-query-loaders > >> /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/gdk-pixbuf-2.0/2.10.0/loaders.cache >> >

Re: Upgrade debacle........

2014-05-03 Thread Tom H
On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 2:25 AM, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Fri, May 02, 2014 at 07:48:45AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >> On Thu, 2014-05-01 at 22:56 -0400, The Wanderer wrote: >>> On 05/01/2014 02:37 PM, Selim T. Erdogan wrote: At the time, I didn't check to see if the file /usr/

Re: Upgrade debacle........

2014-05-03 Thread Tom H
On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 2:41 AM, Charlie wrote: > On Sat, 3 May 2014 02:02:49 -0400 Tom H sent: >> >> For x86_32: >> /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/gdk-pixbuf-2.0/gdk-pixbuf-query-loaders > >> /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/gdk-pixbuf-2.0/2.10.0/loaders.cache >> >> Fo

Re: sudo in X-environment

2014-05-03 Thread Tom H
On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 3:21 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > Btw. xhost is needed when using gksudo: > > $ chuser firefox > No protocol specified > No protocol specified > Error: cannot open display: :0 > size == 0' failed > $ cat /usr/local/bin/chuser > #!/bin/sh > > # /usr/local/bin/chuser -> /.chuse

Re: `ls` shows file, `bash` says "No such file" ???

2014-05-03 Thread Tom H
On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 6:15 AM, Tom H wrote: > On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 2:10 AM, filip wrote: >> On Fri, 02 May 2014 22:25:34 -0400 >> Tom Roche wrote: >> >>> >>> For background on my problem (and why I very much need to solve it), >>> see >&

Re: `ls` shows file, `bash` says "No such file" ???

2014-05-03 Thread Tom H
On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 8:55 AM, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote: > > On my machine /usr/lib/iceweasel/firefox-bin is a link to > /usr/lib/iceweasel/iceweasel . So maybe on your machine > /usr/local/share/firefox-3.6.28/firefox-bin is a dangling link. > What is the output of > > $ ls -lF /usr/local/share/f

Re: Question about wheezy-backports

2014-05-04 Thread Tom H
On Sun, May 4, 2014 at 1:28 AM, Paul E Condon wrote: > > I have added to my sources.list the following line: > > deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-backports main > > But according to http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/, that won't > make the backport appear in interactive aptitude,

Re: solved: `ls` shows file, `bash` says "No such file" ???

2014-05-04 Thread Tom H
On Sun, May 4, 2014 at 5:35 AM, Tom Furie wrote: > On Sun, May 04, 2014 at 06:23:05PM +0900, Joel Rees wrote: >> On Sun, May 4, 2014 at 8:05 AM, Tom Roche wrote: >>> >>> summary: solution: install jessie package=libc6:i386 et al >>> >> >> Well, you've actually pinned the problem pretty well. Who,

Re: Question about wheezy-backports

2014-05-05 Thread Tom H
On Sun, May 4, 2014 at 9:08 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Du, 04 mai 14, 04:01:25, Tom H wrote: >> >> I've never used this search term but aptitude has a search for new >> packages. I assume that a package is somehow marked as new after >> "apt-get update

Re: sudo in X-environment -- polkit solution

2014-05-05 Thread Tom H
On Sun, May 4, 2014 at 11:08 AM, Osamu Aoki wrote: > On Sat, May 03, 2014 at 12:43:17PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >> On Sat, 2014-05-03 at 06:29 -0400, Tom H wrote: > I am wondering why you even need to use wrapper explicitly? That's why I've said that I consider us

Re: boot in console mode from grub2

2014-05-05 Thread Tom H
On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 4:29 AM, François Patte wrote: > > I would like to boot in console mode from the grub screen (ie not in > graphic mode), but I don't want to be in single user mode, ie.: I want > to have a "normal boot" without X. > > I can't find any tuto for grub2 installed on my system.

Re: Problems with mdraid on initrd

2014-05-05 Thread Tom H
On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 12:48 AM, Fredrik Tolf wrote: > > I recently upgraded to Wheezy a system that has its root filesystem on top > of LVM and mdraid, and it gained a problem in booting, in that the initrd > calls mdadm to scan for the mdraid devices before the kernel is done with > detecting th

Re: Question about wheezy-backports

2014-05-05 Thread Tom H
On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 5:21 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Lu, 05 mai 14, 04:05:28, Tom H wrote: >> On Sun, May 4, 2014 at 9:08 AM, Andrei POPESCU >> wrote: >>> If one is watching for new packages it also makes sense to clear the >>> list from time to ti

Re: boot in console mode from grub2

2014-05-05 Thread Tom H
On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 5:38 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Lu, 05 mai 14, 04:58:14, Tom H wrote: >> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 4:29 AM, François Patte >> wrote: >>> >>> I would like to boot in console mode from the grub screen (ie not in >>> graphic mode),

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