Re: What happened to debian - does "stable" keep having any meaning?

2011-03-25 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 5:06 AM, Tom H wrote: > On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 3:08 AM, Geronimo wrote: >> >> Seems like 6.0.0 disk images have been removed from mirrors too. >> As I normally use netinst-CDs only, I can't do that tests. Sorry. > > http://ftp.sunet.se/p

Re: What happened to debian - does "stable" keep having any meaning?

2011-03-25 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 9:00 PM, Brian wrote: > On Thu 24 Mar 2011 at 13:20:08 -0400, Tom H wrote: > >> You'd have to edit the scripts in order to modify the titles - and >> re-edit them the next time that they are updated through an update of >> grub. > >

Re: What happened to debian - does "stable" keep having any meaning?

2011-03-25 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 1:56 AM, Geronimo wrote: > Tom H wrote: >> - Does grub-probe on squeeze and maverick return the same values? > > Looks like this is true. See attachments. Yes. Although the "after some reboots" result of having hd4 correspond to sda is strange.

Re: What happened to debian - does "stable" keep having any meaning?

2011-03-25 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 7:05 AM, Jochen Schulz wrote: > Geronimo: >> >> Rebooting from debian after a grub-install/update-grub, situation is shown by >> picture grub01.png > > This doesn't look *that* bad. It hangs right before showing the menu or > at least its command line. I googled for "welcom

Re: What happened to debian - does "stable" keep having any meaning?

2011-03-25 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 7:49 AM, Michelle Konzack wrote: > Am 2011-03-21 12:40:22, hacktest Du folgendes herunter: >> >> Of course, it could be that your mobo doesn't like grub2.  Since the >> grub and Debian developers know that, they made a big, fat warning >> when wanting to install grub2, aski

Re: What happened to debian - does "stable" keep having any meaning?

2011-03-25 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 7:50 AM, Michelle Konzack wrote: > Am 2011-03-21 19:08:33, hacktest Du folgendes herunter: >> >> There's no choice to use another boot-manager. You have to use grub (which >> silently is grub2) or you have to use grub2. If grub2 is really stil beta - >> what the hell does i

Re: What happened to debian - does "stable" keep having any meaning?

2011-03-25 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 8:50 AM, Geronimo wrote: > Michelle Konzack wrote: >> >>     reportbug debian-installer > > Thanks a lot for that hint. > > but see what happens: > $ reportbug > /usr/lib/pymodules/python2.6/reportbug/ui/gtk2_ui.py:476: PangoWarning: > pango_layout_set_width: assertion `lay

Re: [SOLVED] Re: How to change the style and background of the Squeeze login screen?

2011-03-25 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 5:23 PM, Rick Thomas wrote: > On Mar 24, 2011, at 1:49 PM, Tom H wrote: >> Wouldn't it be better to keep gdm3 and customize it? >> >> http://www.khattam.info/howto-change-gdm-3-theme-and-wallpaper-2010-11-14.html > > Interesting.  Is the

Re: Squeeze, GPT, GRUB2 and Software RAID1

2011-03-27 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 10:35 AM, Georgi Naplatanov wrote: > > I have 2 disk Western Digital WD2002FAEX - 2TB and I want to install Squeeze > with software RAID 1 and GPT instead of old MSDOS partition map. > > I want to use GRUB2 as boot loader, but I read that is needed to be created > a BIOS Bo

Re: Prevent shutdown in Gnome

2011-03-29 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 3:29 PM, Liam O'Toole wrote: > On 2011-03-28, Klistvud wrote: >> Dne, 28. 03. 2011 13:22:10 je Paul van der Vlis napisal(a): >>> >>> I would like to remove the shutdown option in the Gnome menu, it's to >>> prevent shutdown by mistake. Is here somebody who knows how? > > I

Re: Prevent shutdown in Gnome

2011-03-29 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 4:34 AM, Liam O'Toole wrote: > On 2011-03-29, Tom H wrote: >> >> Wouldn't "ResultActive=auth_admin" be better? (IIUC, you'd have to >> supply the root password in order to shut down, etc.) > > "Better" if that

Re: Problem with fonts in console

2011-04-03 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 5:46 AM, James Brown wrote: > On 03.04.2011 04:45, 张启德 wrote: >> 2011/4/3 wolf python london : >>> On 3 April 2011 11:17, 张启德 wrote: 2011/4/3 James Brown : > > Earlier I used Debian Lenny AMD64, which I have upgraded to Debian > Squeeze AMD64. >>> ~$ dm

Re: question about bind9 from a clueless paranoid

2011-04-04 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 9:13 AM, Paul E Condon wrote: > I'm running Wheezy on several i386 boxes. Over the weekend I installed > bind9 and dhcp3-server on one of them. While starting to set up dynDNS, > I noticed a comment in /etc/bind/named.conf.options (this is a file > that had just been install

Re: Ubuntu Versions (was: Re: Let's say you never want to upgrade from Lenny...)

2011-04-05 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 1:21 PM, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > > 10. Can I install server packages on an Ubuntu Desktop installation > and vice versa? > > Yes – Ubuntu’s flexibility makes it easy. The Ubuntu software repositories > do not isolate packages to particular types of deployments. All th

Re: Ubuntu Versions (was: Re: Let's say you never want to upgrade from Lenny...)

2011-04-05 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 3:00 PM, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > > Someone that doesn't necessarily want to upgrade on Debian's schedule.  With > Ubuntu, you can get 5 years, as opposed to Debian's ~3 years.  With SLE* you > can get 10 years.  I'm not sure about RHEL, but I think it is roughly a SL

Re: [help-a-newb] setting grub

2011-04-06 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Joel Rees wrote: > On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 12:09 AM, Dom wrote: >> On 19/03/11 13:29, Joel Rees wrote: >>> >>> I'm having the devil of a time trying to figure out how to set the >>> default boot and how to chain in grub 2 in squeeze. >>> >>> I found something abou

Re: Ubuntu Versions (was: Re: Let's say you never want to upgrade from Lenny...)

2011-04-06 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 7:17 PM, Rob Owens wrote: > > With Ubuntu (I believe) you get "5 years for a server" and "3 years for > a desktop" if you go with an LTS release. What packages are server > packages and what ones are desktop packages? I don't know. It would be > nice to see a list somewhere.

Re: Ubuntu Versions

2011-04-07 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 7:58 PM, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 04/06/2011 06:39 PM, Tom H wrote: >> On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 7:17 PM, Rob Owens  wrote: >>> >>> With Ubuntu (I believe) you get "5 years for a server" and "3 years for >>> a desktop"

Re: Ubuntu Versions (was: Re: Let's say you never want to upgrade from Lenny...)

2011-04-07 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 9:56 PM, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > In , Tom H wrote: >>On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 7:17 PM, Rob Owens wrote: >>> >>> With Ubuntu (I believe) you get "5 years for a server" and "3 years for >>> a desktop" if you go wi

Re: [help-a-newb] setting grub

2011-04-07 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 11:45 PM, Huang, Tao wrote: > On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 11:32 PM, Tom H wrote: >> >> 1. Set "GRUB_DEFAULT=saved" in "/etc/default/grub" and run >> "grub-set-default "; update-grub". You will then always boot by >&g

Re: [help-a-newb] setting grub

2011-04-07 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 3:02 AM, Joel Rees wrote: > On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 12:32 AM, Tom H wrote: >> On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Joel Rees wrote: >>> On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 12:09 AM, Dom wrote: >>>> I don't use chain loading, so am not sure how to

Re: Ubuntu Versions (was: Re: Let's say you never want to upgrade from Lenny...)

2011-04-07 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 6:27 AM, Tom H wrote: > On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 9:56 PM, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. > wrote: >> In , Tom H wrote: >>>On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 7:17 PM, Rob Owens wrote: >>>> >>>> With Ubuntu (I believe) you get "5 years for a

Re: Squeeze, GPT, GRUB2 and Software RAID1

2011-04-07 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 5:32 AM, Georgi Naplatanov wrote: > On 03/27/2011 11:33 PM, Tom H wrote: >> On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 10:35 AM, Georgi Naplatanov >>  wrote: >>> >>> I have 2 disk Western Digital WD2002FAEX - 2TB and I want to install >>> Squeeze w

Re: [help-a-newb] setting grub

2011-04-08 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 4:03 AM, Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Vi, 08 apr 11, 09:56:43, Joel Rees wrote: >> On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 3:47 AM, Andrei Popescu >> wrote: >> > >> > You can set GRUB_DEFAULT to the complete name of an entry, then you >> > won't have to worry about reordering. >> >> Well, I

Re: [help-a-newb] setting grub

2011-04-08 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 8:38 AM, Joel Rees wrote: > On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 7:58 PM, Tom H wrote: >> On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 3:02 AM, Joel Rees wrote: >> The grub2 developers decided that most people wouldn't want to set up >> chainloads and would want update-gru

Re: Disable a service

2011-04-09 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Dan wrote: > > I would like to know which is the standard way to disable services. I > thought that the standard way is just to delete the link of the > service from rc*.d > > For example to disable bluetooth I would just delete the link > /etc/rc3.d/S20bluetooth t

Re: Disable a service

2011-04-09 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 7:32 PM, John A. Sullivan III wrote: > > Once I took the time to learn how to use it, RedHat's chkconfig worked > very well and it was simple to use (chkconfig on, chkconfig > off, chkconfig --list , chkconfig --add .  I > wonder if that's what insserv is trying to do.  I

Re: Disable a service

2011-04-10 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 3:13 AM, Joel Roth wrote: > On Sat, Apr 09, 2011 at 06:12:19PM -0400, Tom H wrote: >> On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Dan wrote: >> > >> > I would like to know which is the standard way to disable services. I >> > thought that the sta

Re: Disable a service

2011-04-10 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 3:48 AM, Thilo Six wrote: > John A. Sullivan III wrote the following on 10.04.2011 01:32 >> >> Once I took the time to learn how to use it, RedHat's chkconfig worked >> very well and it was simple to use (chkconfig on, chkconfig >> off, chkconfig --list , chkconfig --add

Re: Disable a service

2011-04-10 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 6:25 AM, shawn wilson wrote: > On Apr 10, 2011 6:13 AM, "Tom H" wrote: >> >> I've suggested the use of update-rc.d and invoke-rc.d here and on >> ubuntu-users and been told that they're not meant for users/sysadmins. >> I

Re: Disable a service

2011-04-10 Thread Tom H
, Apr 10, 2011 at 05:51:12AM -0400, Tom H wrote: >> Someone was advocating the use >> of chmod to disable an init script earlier in this thread. > > That was me, ignorant sod that I am. And I was starting to > feel vindicated, after reading DDs say Debian lacks a > san

Re: Disable a service

2011-04-11 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 7:27 PM, Joel Roth wrote: > On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 05:33:10PM -0400, Tom H wrote: >> On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 1:36 PM, Joel Roth wrote: >> > On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 05:51:12AM -0400, Tom H wrote: >> It's interesting/weird that there isn&#

Re: Disable a service

2011-04-11 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 6:15 AM, Joel Roth wrote: > On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 04:44:02AM -0400, John A. Sullivan III wrote: >> On Sun, 2011-04-10 at 17:33 -0400, Tom H wrote: >>> >>> You're welcome. I should perhaps add that there's probably a >>> possi

Re: [help-a-newb] setting grub

2011-04-16 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 11:04 PM, Joel Rees wrote: > On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 9:18 PM, Tom H wrote: >> On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 8:38 AM, Joel Rees wrote: >>> On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 7:58 PM, Tom H wrote: >>>> On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 3:02 AM, Joel Rees wrote: >

Re: installer, software raid and grub

2011-04-27 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 3:33 PM, Milos Negovanovic wrote: > > Ive just performed squeeze install on a server with 2 drives > configured in RAID1. I followed closely installer messages and I don't > remember seeing GRUB being installed on /dev/sdb. For a split second > there was a message saying so

Re: who creates 'dev/mapper/vgHDB-HDB9'?

2011-05-03 Thread Tom H
On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 12:41 PM, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > > I have installed lvm2 and created pv's, vg's and lv's. E.g.: > > root@Debian:/home/hugo# lvdisplay >  --- Logical volume --- >  LV Name                /dev/vgHDB/HDB3 >  VG Name                vgHDB >  LV UUID                SCHlBs-acvc-F

Re: Problem with Samba on Squeeze

2011-05-03 Thread Tom H
On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 9:41 AM, Camaleón wrote: > El 2011-05-03 a las 02:50 -0700, Roger Morgan escribió: > (resending to the list, no sensible data on it) I think that you mean "sensitive." :) >> > From: Camaleón >> > Make  a quick test. Try "smbclient -L servername" but when asked for the

Re: multiboot grub2

2011-05-04 Thread Tom H
On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 3:19 AM, consul tores wrote: > > i have a Laptop with Squeeze, OpenBSD-amd64-4.9, and > Slackware64-13.37: and it is using grub2 as bootloader, (if i use > lilo, it works correctly, but i want to evade bios check) grub2 can > not recognize OpenBSD (what is not a problem), an

Re: multiboot grub2

2011-05-04 Thread Tom H
On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 10:26 AM, wolf python london wrote: > On 3 May 2011 15:19, consul tores wrote: >> >> i have a Laptop with Squeeze, OpenBSD-amd64-4.9, and >> Slackware64-13.37: and it is using grub2 as bootloader, (if i use >> lilo, it works correctly, but i want to evade bios check) grub2

Re: What is this Apple Bootstrap thing of which the installer speaks?

2011-05-05 Thread Tom H
On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 12:41 PM, wrote: > > Also, is there any way to make Debian read OpenBSD's disklabel? > Debian seem to just see one big OpenBSD partition and none of the > subpartitions. Does that mean any partitions I want to share, e.g. > swap, have to be partitioned with something other

Re: cannot resolve hostname

2011-05-07 Thread Tom H
On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 9:14 AM, AG wrote: > > In what seems to be a string of related issues having to do with networking, > I now find that not only has my IP address been changed from 192.168.1.40 to > 192.168.1.64 but also that my machine's name (valhalla) cannot be resolved. > > This is the ou

Re: cannot resolve hostname

2011-05-07 Thread Tom H
On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Bob McConnell wrote: >> >> (I don't know what all the IPv6 references are, but I assume that I can >> safely ignore those). > > That is not a safe assumption. If you do not have an IPv6 capable router and > DNS server, many applications will timeout before the IPv6

Re: cannot resolve hostname

2011-05-07 Thread Tom H
On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 11:40 AM, AG wrote: > On 07/05/11 16:31, Tom H wrote: >> On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 9:14 AM, AG >>  wrote: >>> >>> In what seems to be a string of related issues having to do with >>> networking, >>> I now find that not on

Re: An experiment in backup

2015-01-16 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 10:19 PM, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: > > I have a tar backup of the entire system, excluding /sys, /proc and /dev. > I have a tar backup of a bind-mount of /dev. > These were taken while the system was running, but quiet. I did it this > way because I cannot get the system to bo

Re: An experiment in backup

2015-01-18 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 10:28 PM, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: > On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 3:54 AM, Tom H wrote: >> Are you using a DM? > > A what? Xubuntu uses xfce4 if that answers the question. DM = display manager On Ubuntu, lightdm is the default DM. >> Are you usin

Re: An experiment in backup

2015-01-20 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 1:02 PM, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 9:26 AM, Tom H wrote: On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 10:28 PM, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: > On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 3:54 AM, Tom H wrote: >> >> Have you looked at the logs? Especially Xorg.0.log and x

Re: `Xorg -configure' failure

2011-10-10 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 9:52 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote: > On 08/10/11 03:56, Harry Putnam wrote: >> Scott Ferguson writes: >> >> [...] >> > It's considered bad manners to cross post - why waste more peoples > time? Why is that wasting anyones time.  Some people read it here some >

Re: Is there any issue with reportbug in unstabl or bugs.debian.org?

2011-10-11 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 8:38 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: > > 3. Reportbug sends the bug report bug using /usr/sbin/sendmail as the >   MTA.  If that doesn't work then reportbug (and other commands too) >   will have problems.  I have no workaround to /usr/sbin/sendmail not >   working.  That simply must

Re: grub-install fails an RAID1

2011-10-12 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 5:58 PM, Kurt Flex wrote: > > I've done a safe-upgrade today which upgraded grub: > >    upgrade grub-pc 1.98+20100804-14 1.98+20100804-14+squeeze1 > > The same for grub-common. > > A dialog appeared which asked me to run grub-install. But that > failed. So i told the dialo

Re: grub-install fails an RAID1

2011-10-12 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 9:19 AM, Kurt Flex wrote: > Tom H writes: >> On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 5:58 PM, Kurt Flex wrote: >>> >>>    # grub-install /dev/sda >>>    /usr/sbin/grub-setup: warn: This msdos-style partition label has no >>> post-MBR gap; e

Re: hostname set to "new-host"

2011-10-12 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 10:13 AM, Celejar wrote: > > Just rebooted my system, and the hostname is now set to > 'new-host' (/etc/hostname still contains the correct hostname). Anybody > seeing this, or understand why? What's the output of "sysctl kernel.hostname"? Could now be getting your hostna

Re: stupid question about pvdisplay, just to be sure.

2011-10-12 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 10:26 AM, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > april:/farhome/hendrik# pvdisplay >  --- Physical volume --- >  PV Name               /dev/md0 >  VG Name               VG1 >  PV Size               673.62 GiB / not usable 3.00 MiB >  Allocatable           yes >  PE Size               4.00

Re: How to get version information in common notation

2011-10-12 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 11:58 AM, Harry Putnam wrote: > Darac Marjal writes: >> On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 09:45:19AM -0500, Harry Putnam wrote: >>> >>> How can I quickly get version information for packages I have >>> installed.  I mean the common kind of notion used throughout linux. >> >> If you

Re: grub-install fails an RAID1

2011-10-12 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 2:03 PM, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > > grub2 could use a blocklist (as lilo did), but thats unsafe. You can use blocklists with grub2 by passing "--force" as a "grub-install" argument but I would check first whether it's a VM booted through pvgrub or through whatever mecha

Re: hostname set to "new-host"

2011-10-12 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 12:37 PM, Celejar wrote: > On Wed, 12 Oct 2011 11:27:42 -0400 > Tom H wrote: >> On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 10:13 AM, Celejar wrote: >> > Just rebooted my system, and the hostname is now set to >> > 'new-host' (/etc/hostname still

Re: Software Raid, recovery after drive broke

2011-10-18 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 8:55 AM, Raf Czlonka wrote: > > dmraid and mdraid are not the same thing. Except for the fact that you can manage a dmraid array with mdadm (IIRC, you have to have "containers" on the "DEVICE" line in "mdadm.conf", but there may be more to it than that). -- To UNSUBSCRI

Re: preseed with USB-Stick and RAID on internal disks

2011-10-20 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 6:39 AM, Peter Beck wrote: > Is it possible to do an atomic _and_ raid setup at the same time ? Not AFAIK. > Or shall I just use "d-i preseed/late_command string in-target" to create > the RAID array with "mdadm --create --verbose --force --assume-clean > /dev/md0 --le

Re: Software Raid, recovery after drive broke

2011-10-21 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 8:57 AM, Raf Czlonka wrote: > On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 12:29:14AM BST, Tom H wrote: >> On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 8:55 AM, Raf Czlonka wrote: >>> >>> dmraid and mdraid are not the same thing. >> >> Except for the fact that you can ma

Re: framebuffer resolution problem

2011-10-23 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 4:27 AM, daniel jimenez wrote: > > Thanks! It worked wonders, my ttys work at native resolution now :D > > My /etc/default grub has these lines now: > > GRUB_GFXMODE=1280x800 > GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD=keep > GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=1280x800x32 "GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD" no longer exists. It

Re: grub wish

2011-10-24 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 11:56 AM, Thierry Chatelet wrote: > On Monday 24 October 2011 17:28:34 Richard wrote: >> >> is it possible on boot up to go to the login screen wait 10 seconds, and >> the automatically login a selected account? >> >> So on boot up it goes to the login screen and you have 1

Re: how to handle the not upgraded package

2011-10-24 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 4:14 PM, Sven Joachim wrote: > > As an unstable user, I beg to disagree.  With aptitude there are few > occasions where dist-upgrade is necessary, and it often does unwanted > things. Unfortunately, apt-get does not have a safe-upgrade command. (slight digression) I wish t

Re: how to handle the not upgraded package

2011-10-24 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 4:33 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: > Sven Joachim wrote: >> >> Unfortunately, apt-get does not have a safe-upgrade command. > > Here I beg to differ.  'apt-get upgrade' is the safe-upgrade mechanism. > Packages cannot be added or removed and dependency chains cannot be > broken. (

Re: grub wish

2011-10-24 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 12:42 PM, Thierry Chatelet wrote: > On Monday 24 October 2011 18:03:49 Tom H wrote: >> On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 11:56 AM, Thierry Chatelet wrote: >>> >>> Maybe havea look at /etc/grub.d/readme and then /etc/defaults/grub >> >> It sou

Re: Weird DNS error?

2011-10-24 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 4:55 PM, Greg van Anders wrote: > > I'm a bit embarrassed to be asking this question, but I just did a > brand new installation of Squeeze. The install seemed to go fine and I > didn't notice any problems. > > Upon booting, however, I don't seem to be able to resolve any ho

Re: Weird DNS error?

2011-10-24 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 7:29 PM, Greg van Anders wrote: > Thanks Bob and Tom. You're welcome. > # grep hosts /etc/nsswitch.conf > hosts:          files mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] dns mdns4 I'm glad that you or someone else thought of asking for the above because it slipped my mind and I

Re: Weird DNS error?

2011-10-24 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 8:58 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: > Greg van Anders wrote: >> >> # grep hosts /etc/nsswitch.conf >> hosts:          files mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] dns mdns4 > > I have never seen the mdns4 parts installed upon a pristine install of > Debian.  I can only guess that something

Re: preseeding/partman-auto: LVM expert recipe problem

2011-10-25 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 6:49 AM, Thorsten Sperber wrote: > > I have a problem regarding the partman-auto/expert-recipe. I have this > minimal recipe (very minimal, not really useful at all except to prove this > bug) and it calculates 220100 MB (and a lot more in my original recipe). > > : Oct

Re: Which repository

2011-10-26 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 9:49 AM, Marc Auslander wrote: > > I'm probably missing something obvious but ... Is there a way to find > out which repository an installed package came from?  The various show > commands list the path inside the repository, but not the repository itself. apt-cache policy

Re: preseeding/partman-auto: LVM expert recipe problem

2011-10-27 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 5:41 AM, Thorsten Sperber wrote: >> >> Oct 25 13:48:03 partman-auto: Available disk space (31457) too small for >> expert recipe (4400010064); skipping > > ehm, bump? How about using just this? It's the beginning of your full recipe but I've removed "logical-volumes::" be

Re: Software Raid, recovery after drive broke

2011-10-28 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Raf Czlonka wrote: > On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 06:12:37PM BST, Tom H wrote: >> >> I'm sorry that I've confused you. I was just pointing out that the >> demarcation line between mdraid and dmraid isn't as straightforward as &g

Re: Just a simple query

2011-10-29 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 7:04 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > A good Linux distro for beginners is a Linux distro with a huge > community, IOW a distro that is used by many people and that comes with > lot's of up to date forums, wikis etc., hence a good distro for > beginners would be one of the major

Re: Choosing a distribution (was: Just a simple query)

2011-10-29 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 6:03 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Sat, 2011-10-29 at 09:19 +, Camaleón wrote: >> >> http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:System_upgrade >> >> *** >> Version: 11.2+ Starting with openSUSE 11.2, a live upgrade from the prior >> version is officially supported. This allows to perfor

Re: Software Raid, recovery after drive broke

2011-10-29 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Raf Czlonka wrote: > On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 06:50:05PM BST, Tom H wrote: >> Given your posts, you're clearly confused... > > Would you care to elaborate? No. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a sub

Re: Broken packages............

2011-10-29 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 9:12 AM, Charlie wrote: >  On Sat, 29 Oct 2011 14:01:16 +0200 "Arno Schuring >> >>DMO? > > Sorry, silly question, but. what is DMO? Have been googling it > and not getting anywhere, and it's late, or early. http://debian-multimedia.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email t

Re: [Semi-OT] Automatic subscription to self-opened bug reports

2011-10-29 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 1:00 PM, Stephen Powell wrote: > On Sat, 29 Oct 2011 11:54:08 -0400 (EDT), Camaleón wrote: >> >> I would like to know if there is a way to get automatically subscribed¹ >> to Debian bugs I report. >> >> I mean, something like a "tag" I can use when I report the bug by e-mai

Re: [Semi-OT] Automatic subscription to self-opened bug reports

2011-10-29 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 2:27 PM, Walter Hurry wrote: > On Sat, 29 Oct 2011 12:23:45 -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: >> >> Auto-subscribing to Debian bugs I file >> http://madduck.net/blog/2008.06.20:auto-subscribing-to-debian-bugs-I-file/ > > 404 http://madduck.net/blog/2008.06.20:auto-subscribing-to-de

Re: [Semi-OT] Automatic subscription to self-opened bug reports

2011-10-29 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 3:45 PM, Stephen Powell wrote: > On Sat, 29 Oct 2011 13:22:50 -0400 (EDT), Sven Joachim wrote: >> On 2011-10-29 19:00 +0200, Stephen Powell wrote: >>> I could be wrong, but I believe that you are automatically "subscribed" >>> to bugs that you report yourself. >> >> You are

Re: Software Raid, recovery after drive broke

2011-10-29 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 1:47 PM, Raf Czlonka wrote: > On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 01:45:43PM BST, Tom H wrote: >> On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Raf Czlonka wrote: >> > On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 06:50:05PM BST, Tom H wrote: >> >> Given your posts, you're clearly c

Re: [Semi-OT] Automatic subscription to self-opened bug reports

2011-10-30 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 6:19 AM, Camaleón wrote: > On Sat, 29 Oct 2011 17:35:29 -0400, Tom H wrote: > > (...) > >> The madduck script automates subscribing to the bugs that you've filed >> for you. There's no need to do this manually. > > If I have corre

Re: [Semi-OT] Automatic subscription to self-opened bug reports

2011-11-01 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Camaleón wrote: > On Sun, 30 Oct 2011 13:53:47 -0400, Tom H wrote: >> On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 6:19 AM, Camaleón wrote: >>> On Sat, 29 Oct 2011 17:35:29 -0400, Tom H wrote: >>> >>> (...) >>> >>>> The mad

Re: Preseeded installation with non-standard locale

2011-11-04 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 4:07 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: > > What is /usr/bin/localechooser? It does not seem to exist on the > system. It's part of/called by d-i. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian

Re: Preseeded installation with non-standard locale

2011-11-04 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 4:45 PM, Philipp Tölke wrote: >> >> I think you have been diverted from the primary problem.  You won't >> need most of the above.  Try reverting to the very simple settings: >> >>   d-i debian-installer/locale string de_DE@euro >>   d-i debian-installer/keymap string de > >

Re: Preseeded installation with non-standard locale

2011-11-04 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 7:59 PM, Tom H wrote: > On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 4:45 PM, Philipp Tölke wrote: >>> >>> I think you have been diverted from the primary problem.  You won't >>> need most of the above.  Try reverting to the very simple settings: >>&

Re: [Semi-OT] Automatic subscription to self-opened bug reports

2011-11-04 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 10:05 AM, Camaleón wrote: > On Tue, 01 Nov 2011 14:17:01 -0400, Tom H wrote: >> On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Camaleón wrote: >>>> >>>> This script and the BTS aren;t tied in to the box from which you >>>> report a script. As

Re: How to "ifdown ..." on squeeze?

2011-11-06 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 8:42 PM, Dan B. wrote: > > On a new installation of squeeze, ifdown no longer works as it used > to (on my old Debian system). > > When ifconfig lists an interface "eth0", neither "ifdown eth0" nor > "ifdown eth" takes the interface down.  The attempts yield: >  "ifdown: int

Re: How to "ifdown ..." on squeeze?

2011-11-07 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 2:17 AM, Bob Proulx wrote: > Tom H wrote: >> Dan B. wrote: >> > On a new installation of squeeze, ifdown no longer works as it used >> > to (on my old Debian system). > > This is because by default with a GNOME desktop installed Debian has

Re: How to "ifdown ..." on squeeze?

2011-11-07 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 6:54 AM, Harry Putnam wrote: > Tom H writes: >> >> You can also use "nmcli" to take down and bring up your NIC. > > Can you show a usage of bringing up/down the network? > > With this in /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf &g

Re: sh malfunction after upgrade

2011-11-09 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 6:41 AM, J. Bakshi wrote: > On Wed, 09 Nov 2011 11:33:17 + > kuLa wrote: >> On 09/11/11 11:15, J. Bakshi wrote: >> > >> > I have upgraded a very old lenny server to squeeze. >> > The shell scripts are now malfunctioning; specially the >> > loop statement. Moreover "sh -

Re: OT: Just a simple query

2011-11-09 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 6:30 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote: > > Red Hat Linux = Red Hat's original commercial product Commercial?! You could get it for free like Fedora as well as get it for free and then enter into a service contract with RH. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.de

Re: OT: Just a simple query

2011-11-10 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 5:12 AM, Raf Czlonka wrote: > On Wed, Nov 09, 2011 at 11:12:01PM GMT, Ismael Scalcon wrote: >> >> To clarify things up (ok, a bit off topic): >> >> Red Hat Linux is a commercial distro, but what they sell is the supporte > > To clarify things, Red Hat Linux _was_ a distro a

Re: Undocumented detail from ls -l?

2011-11-10 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 12:16 PM, wrote: > > peter@joule:~$ dmesg | grep Debian > [    0.00] Linux version 2.6.32-5-686 (Debian 2.6.32-38) > (b...@decadent.org.u > k) (gcc version 4.3.5 (Debian 4.3.5-4) ) #1 SMP Mon Oct 3 04:15:24 UTC 2011 > peter@joule:~$ ls -l /dev/fw1 > crw-rw+ 1 root

Re: gdm3

2011-11-13 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 10:35 AM, Camaleón wrote: > On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 19:58:15 +0530, Sridhar M.A. wrote: >> >> With new gdm3 entering testing, > > gdm3 has been available in wheezy since time ago... That's an unfortunate Debian-induced confusion. Squeeze has a GDM that's called "gdm3" and tha

Re: Into: Coming over to Debian from Ubuntu

2011-11-13 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 5:43 AM, Camaleón wrote: > On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 14:47:33 -0500, Douglas Saylor wrote: > > (...) > >> *Meanwhile* iOS is *so* polished, so easy, so intuitive & yes*very* >> pretty. > > Apple products are so closed, so limited and so restricted that renders > you hardware into

Re: Can we stop whining about GNOME3 please?

2011-11-13 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 8:13 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote: > On 13/11/11 11:13, Walter Hurry wrote: >> >> It seems fashionable to complain about GNOME3. If you don't like it (and >> personally I detest it), then you have three choices: >> >> a) Wait until it improves (3,2, 3.3, 3.4)? >> b) Put up with

Re: gdm3

2011-11-14 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 12:52 PM, Camaleón wrote: > On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 10:57:22 -0500, Tom H wrote: > >> On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 10:35 AM, Camaleón wrote: >>> On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 19:58:15 +0530, Sridhar M.A. wrote: >>>> >>>> With new gdm3 enterin

Re: GNOME 3 Alt-Tab takes two hands now?

2011-11-14 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 11:33 AM, Camaleón wrote: > On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 19:38:03 -0800, Kevin Ross wrote: > >> If you have two windows open for the same application, the Alt-Tab popup >> combines them into a single icon. To switch between windows of the same >> application, you have to hit the dow

Re: How to get an IP address

2011-11-14 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 11:44 AM, T o n g wrote: > > I know how to get an IP address *info* using dig, but has anyone looked > into how to get *only* the IP address? so that I can use, eg. > >  the_ip=`get_ip host` dig +short ... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org

Re: gdm3

2011-11-14 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 10:12 AM, Camaleón wrote: > On Mon, 14 Nov 2011 08:56:18 -0500, Tom H wrote: > >> On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 12:52 PM, Camaleón wrote: >>> On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 10:57:22 -0500, Tom H wrote: >>> >>>> On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 10:35 AM,

Re: [OT] can't see own post to the list

2011-11-14 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 11:57 AM, Dan B. wrote: > Scott Ferguson wrote: >> On 14/11/11 11:19, Dan B. wrote: >>> Scott Ferguson wrote: On 13/11/11 16:14, Doug wrote: > > GMail deliberately removes your own list messages so > you can't see them and know that you actually were succes

Re: Into: Coming over to Debian from Ubuntu

2011-11-14 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 1:17 PM, Camaleón wrote: > On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 12:22:17 -0500, Tom H wrote: >> On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 5:43 AM, Camaleón wrote: >>> On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 14:47:33 -0500, Douglas Saylor wrote: >>> >>> (...) >>> >>>>

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