w your example or not.
But telling them what they "should" do, unless it relates to behaviour that
affexts you directly(*) is the first step on the road to intolerance,
persecution, the Talibans and the Inquisition, etc.
Cheers,
Ron.
* Of course there is the difference between &
wn religion is better than ours ?
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Ron.
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The only way to get rid of a temptation is to yield to it.
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On Fri, 20 Nov 2015 23:23:02 -0700
Glenn English wrote:
> Chill a bit, folks. There's no question that vi is better than emacs :-)..
Of course it is; yet we do not go round preaching to all and sundry "You should
use vi"...
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Ron.
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You do ill if you
llowing the precept wisely given by the Fathers of
the American Constitution, never try to impose your religion on others !
Cheers,
Ron.
--
You do ill if you praise, but worse if you censure,
when you do not rightly understand.
like vi
better", "I believe vi is better suited to what you want to do" and on the
other "you should use vi".
Cheers,
Ron.
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First Law of Bicycling:
No matter which way you ride,
u try to force others to hold those same opinions
that you start on the road to intolerance and persecution.
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Ron.
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First Law of Bicycling:
No matter which way you ride,
it's uphill a
not forcing anyone to use free software.
> I try to convince with arguments.
No; you are not trying to convince, with or without arguments, but you attempt
to dictate what we can and cannot do.
Wont work.
Cheers,
Ron.
--
It is easier to fight for one's principles
work.
> You are asserting something without any support. Dicating implies
> coercion. Show how I am coercing or trying to coerce people.
By saying we "should" do something.
Cheers,
Ron.
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Fortunate is he for whom the belle toils.
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Trying to activate Samba with chkconfig, I get:
root@ron:/home/ron # chkconfig –add smb 5
Usage: chkconfig -s service on|off|runlevels
Yet according to man chkconfig:
SYNOPSIS
chkconfig -t|--terse [names]
chkconfig -s|--set [name state]
chkconfig -e|--edit [names
On Mon, 23 Nov 2015 16:08:03 +0100
Petter Adsen wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Nov 2015 11:59:35 -0300
> Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote:
>
> > Trying to activate Samba with chkconfig, I get:
> >
> > root@ron:/home/ron # chkconfig –add smb 5
>
PS Running Wheezy / XFCE, no systemd.
Cheers,
Ron.
--
Pacifism is a shifty doctrine under which a man accepts the benefits
of the social group without being willing to pay
-and claims a halo for his dishonesty
On Mon, 23 Nov 2015 18:11:47 +0200
Teemu Likonen wrote:
> Renaud OLGIATI [2015-11-23 12:59:38-03] wrote:
>
> > root@ron:/home/ron # chkconfig -–add smb
> ^^
> You have these two different characters there:
>
> - U+002D HYPHEN-MINU
my raspberry pi B+. Thanks for answers.
Plug it in, and launch wicd; refresh to see all the available wifi networks,
choose yours, and configure.
Cheers,
Ron.
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To the optimist, the glass is half full.
To the pessimist, the glass is half empty.
To
On Mon, 23 Nov 2015 14:18:07 -0500
Dan Ritter wrote:
> > OK Ta; changed the CL to what you gave me:
> > root@ron:/home/ron # chkconfig --add smb
> > smb: unknown service
> > Just checked in Synaptic, have both Samba, Samba-common and
> > Samba-common-bin install
On Mon, 23 Nov 2015 15:58:47 -0500
Gene Heskett wrote:
> I put a bounty on
> wipeing windows from anything I own in about 1997. No regrets yet.
SWMBO has some hardware that only speaks Windows, alas...
Cheers,
Ron.
--
There never was a good war or a bad
On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 11:13:24 -0500
Felix Miata wrote:
> Easier to change fstab to mount swap LABEL= instead of UUID=, then
/dev/sd6 noneswapsw 0 0
Cheers,
Ron.
--
Stercus acci
gt; because of the stick or external enumerated as sda instead of the internal
> HD. By LABEL and by UUID both avoid that risk.
No risk: when I want to boot from the USB I do it (F8 at boot) from the Grub
installed on the USB.
No UUID crap needed.
Cheers,
Ron.
--
gnificant cost of human interface changes and
> should be considered.
Only obsolete for those who have switched to systemd-Linux; the documentation
remains still valid for users of GNU-Linux.
Cheers,
Ron.
--
An expert is one who knows more and more about less and less
ed new users.
One wonders why did they abandon the principle of backward compatibility ?
Cheers,
Ron.
--
There comes a time in the affairs of a man
when he has to take the bull by the tail
and
hat was
before ?
And ensure that what worked before still works with (or in spite of) the
innovations and improvements ??
Cheers,
Ron.
--
There comes a time in the affairs of a man
when he has to take the bull by the tail
and fac
but when I go on a
trip . stop automatic download, and can access it on their web-site.
Cheers,
Ron.
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La superstition met le monde entier en flammes; la philosophie les eteint.
--Volta
Why not use Knoppix, instead of re-inventing the wheel ?
Cheers,
Ron.
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Those of you who think you know everything
are very annoying those of us who do.
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e CLI, did not work:
root@ron:/home/ron # mount /dev/sdi1
mount: can't find /dev/sdi1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
How do I get it to mount ?
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Ron.
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They also surf, who only stand on waves.
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ot;Authentication is required".
> >
> > Is that udev throwing a tantrum ?
> >
> > Tried mounting it from the CLI, did not work:
> >
> > root@ron:/home/ron # mount /dev/sdi1
> > mount: can't find /dev/sdi1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
> >
>
/devices/ -name sdb
/sys/devices/pci:00/:00:1f.2/host4/target4:0:0/4:0:0:0/block/sdb
If rules fail to reload automatically
# udevadm control --reload
-
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Ron.
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SATA drives, and one has to log in as root, and mount then, before use
?
Cheers,
Ron.
--
Le client n'a jamais tort.
-- César Ritz
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how up as "HintSystem: true" in the
> output of "udisksctl dump".
root@ron:/home/ron # udisksctl dump
bash: udisksctl: command not found
???
Cheers,
Ron.
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Le client n'a jamais tort.
-- César Ritz
ue" in the
> > > output of "udisksctl dump".
> > root@ron:/home/ron # udisksctl dump
> > bash: udisksctl: command not found
> > ???
> dpkg -l udisks2
root@ron:/home/ron # apt-get install udisks2
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency
evices
> > > > > for
> > > > > which the default policykit rules only allow mounting with
> > > > > authentication. These should show up as "HintSystem: true" in the
> > > > > output of "udisksctl dump".
> >
>
On Thu, 11 Dec 2014 09:07:21 +0100
Mart van de Wege wrote:
> This is like all those people who first moved to Ubuntu back in the day,
> complaining about not being able to login as root.
And how do you keep a multi-user box safe if any user can sudo ?
Cheers,
rtphone (web browser or screen
> mirroring software) - increasingly common among couch potatoes
Not to mention the Pentium I box happily recycled, headless, running IPCop
firewall to protect the LAN from intrusion.
Cheers,
Ron.
--
Profund and/or wi
On Fri, 12 Dec 2014 18:07:03 -0500
Ric Moore wrote:
> So maybe we could consider a standard for "home computer" that it "runs
> on 110V with less than X amount of watts"?
Except that for the greater part of the world it would be 220 Volts...
Cheers,
Ron.
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add
dmraid=true at the end of the GRUB boot line.
Cheers,
Ron.
--
Distrust all those who love you extremely
upon a very slight acquaintance
and without any visible reason.
-- Lord Chesterfi
le of the console a brass manometer, with
instruction to do an emergency stop if the pressure dropped below 6kg/cm^2;
that was for the water cooling the vacuum tubes..
Cheers,
Ron.
--
The way to love anything
is to realize that it migh
On Sat, 13 Dec 2014 12:15:05 -0500
JAWV WV wrote:
> por ejemplo instalé la
> versión 7.7.0 y dentro de 5 o 6 meses la versión estable mejorada es
> liberada , me toca re-instalar o simplemente puedo actualizar la versión
> 7.7.0 para que pase a ser la 8.0.1 . Pues en verdad actualizar es instalar
quirer could find the answer, or help, in his
own language.
Cheers,
Ron.
--
Dort, wo man Bücher verbrennt,
verbrennt man auch am Ende Menschen.
-- Heinrich
en two
phases (if your house is wired for three-phase current).
Cheers,
Ron.
--
Politics is the art of looking for trouble,
finding it everywhere,
diagnosing it incorrectly
and appl
1.9030...@merit.unu.edu
>
>
supposed to have 220 +/- 10%, which covers from 200 to 240 and a bit more.
Cheers,
Ron.
--
Politics is the art of looking for trouble,
finding it everywhere,
diagnosing it in
On Mon, 15 Dec 2014 08:01:07 + (UTC)
Curt wrote:
> > In Europe we have 220 Volts between phase and neutre, and 380 Volts
> > between two phases (if your house is wired for three-phase current).
>
> Paraguay is in Europe now?
Never claimed it was, why ?
Cheers,
Ro
I use the free prog Bagpipe, by Philippe Corgier
http://r.fifi.free.fr/BagPipe/english.htm but it is rather specialized, as it
caters to the needs of the Scottish Highland Bagpipe player ;-3)
Cheers,
Ron.
--
Documentation is like sex:
when it is
longer works, some dependency is buggered ;-3(
$ /usr/bin/easyabc
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/share/easyabc/easy_abc.py", line 197, in
import wx
ImportError: No module named wx
Cheers,
Ron.
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Documentation is like sex:
laimed it was, why ?
> In Europe *we* *have* I think he meant.
Well, I lived in Europe for over fifty years...
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Ron.
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A diplomat is man who always remembers a woman's birthday but never her age.
Pentium II box, as the install would not work on more
recent hardware ;-3(
Seems you can still find it for download on the net.
Cheers,
Ron.
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Behind every successful man there stands a woman,
telling him he is wrong
I plug in a USB pen drive, and launch dd to copy an iso image.
# dd bs=4M if=debian-live-7.6.0-amd64-rescue.iso of=/dev/sdi && sync
dd: opening `/dev/sdi': Read-only file system
Is there a way to force it to mount read-write ?
Cheers,
Ron.
--
We&
O9660 file system which, by design, is read-only.
No, when I launch dd it contains a FAT32 file system.
> > Is there a way to force it to mount read-write ?
> Nothing is mounted during the reading and writing process.
Then why does dd complain, and refuse to run ?
Cheers,
Ron.
dd bs=4M if=debian-live-7.6.0-amd64-rescue.iso of=/dev/sdi && sync
dd: opening `/dev/sdi': Read-only file system
The drive does not have a HW write-protection switch. Where does this Write
Protect come from, how can one get rid of it ?
?
Cheers,
Ron.
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Government is not the
hich-doesnt-exist
# touch /dev/somefile-which-doesnt-exist
# ls -l /dev/somefile-which-doesnt-exist
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Dec 19 09:54 /dev/somefile-which-doesnt-exist
My gast remains fiercely flabbered...
Cheers,
Ron.
--
George Orwell was an optimist.
On Fri, 19 Dec 2014 15:07:25 -0300
Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote:
> # ls -l /dev/sdi
> brw-rw---T 1 root floppy 8, 128 Dec 19 07:59 /dev/sdi
Anyone know where I could find info on the special permission denoted by the
leading b in the permissions above, and same for the trailing T ?
he t; chmod o-T does not work. Maybe there is
a simpler way, but this one did work.
Only fly in the ointment is that gparted still complains that:
Unable to open /dev/sdi read-write (Read-only file system). /dev/sdi has been
opened read-
at your USB stick has
> cocked its toes up?
I still doubt that, given I can read the contents.
Cheers,
Ron.
--
Democracy substitutes election by the incompetent many
for appointment by the corrupt few.
/dev/sde
brw-rw---T 1 root floppy 8, 65 Dec 27 17:01 /dev/sde1
Why does it fail to auto-mount, and does not appear in Thunar or Pcmanfm ?
udev gone mad ?
Cheers,
Ron.
PS The card is perfectly readable and writeable in my phone, or in SWMBO's
windows Vista box.
--
The abili
esys Logic, Inc. USB-2.0 4-Port HUB
Bus 006 Device 002: ID 413c:2107 Dell Computer Corp.
Bus 006 Device 003: ID 046d:c408 Logitech, Inc. Marble Mouse (4-button)
Bus 004 Device 003: ID 03f0:2504 Hewlett-Packard DeskJet F4200 series
Same for ls /media, in both cases :
# ls /media
cdrom cdrom0 flop
I am looking for a prog that will display on screen, and save, pictures taken
with a USB camera connected to the box.
Better obviously with a GUI; but I do not care to install a load of Gnome or
KDE bloat.
Any idea, advice, etc ?
Cheers,
Ron.
--
Learning does not consist of knowing
KDE bloat.
> > Any idea, advice, etc ?
> you should try cheese https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Cheese
Thank you, Marcos, but I specifically excluded anything that brought Gnome (or
KDE) bloat to my box.
Cheese wants to install 49 other packages, including Nautilus...
Cheers,
Ron.
--
On Sun, 04 Jan 2015 21:19:46 +0100
Hans wrote:
> Maybe Camorama or GUVCView is what you are looking for. Maybe, there are some
> commandline tools, too.
Many thanks, Camorama is exactly what I was hoping for.
Cheers,
Ron.
--
King Herod has been greatly misunde
On Wed, 14 Jan 2015 06:58:00 -0500
Mike McGinn wrote:
> Don't complain about my top post. I don't care and will ignore you.
We'll complain about not trimming the post.
Cheers,
Ron.
--
99 percent of lawyers give t
with the central button the same way so??).
It depends on the pastee app having the focus, for which you have to go and
click in its window after selecting in the pasting app window.
Cheers,
Ron.
--
Mediocrity knows nothing higher than itself,
but talent ins
On Fri, 23 Jan 2015 18:46:04 +
Lisi Reisz wrote:
> Touché. :-( Yes, that wasn't very nice. But one can hardly compare 1985
> with
> now! Hard drives were in single figure gig sizes.
More like meg sizes...
Cheers,
Ron.
--
Non omnia
, and keep characters at a legible size in consoles ?
Cheers,
Ron.
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God, I wish ignorance was painful.
-- James Knox
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When I plug in my USB modem, it is recogniz"ed and mounted on /dev/ttyACM0
Sadly, it is not accessible to the user as:
root@ron # ls -l /dev/ttyA*
crw-rw---T 1 root dialout 166, 0 Jan 24 11:23 /dev/ttyACM0
and I must chmod a+rw before users can use it.
Is there a way to make it mount crw-
On Sat, 24 Jan 2015 15:35:15 +0100
Hans wrote:
> > When I plug in my USB modem, it is recognized and mounted on /dev/ttyACM0
> > Sadly, it is not accessible to the user as:
> > root@ron # ls -l /dev/ttyA*
> > crw-rw---T 1 root dialout 166, 0 Jan 24 11:23 /dev/ttyACM0
&
On Sat, 24 Jan 2015 21:45:09 +
Philip Ashmore wrote:
> just reboot the machine.
Shades of MS Windows ;-3(
Thanks to all for your help.
Cheers,
Ron.
--
It is not too late to turn back
from the Gates of Hell. Use Li
it available in the rescue console ?
Cheers,
Ron.
--
Intolerance is itself a form of violence
and an obstacle to the growth of a true democratic spirit.
-- Mahatma Gandhi
> > So I give the root password, and # vi /etc/fstab. Surprise ! I get vi:
> > command not found
> Which version of Debian? I have vi in Debian Wheezy (Stable).
You have it in the rescue console ?
Cheers,
Ron.
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A new koan:
On Mon, 26 Jan 2015 18:27:26 +0100
Michael Biebl wrote:
> Were you dropped into the initramfs rescue shell?
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configure console-setup
Worked, but only after editing /etc/default/console.setup (as root) as per
David Wright's advice so it reads:
#FONTFACE="Fixed"
FONTFACE="Terminus"
FONTSIZE="8x16"
FONTSIZE="10x20"
FONTSIZE="12x24"
F
rting
> the services and without asking what to do.
>
> Would you know the right option?
Install needrestart and run it after upgrading..
Cheers,
Ron.
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Pro is to con as progress is to Congress.
-- http
On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 11:24:32 +
Lisi Reisz wrote:
> What about the Japanese?
not to mention the Israelis, Farsis, Urdus, and the Muslims ?
Cheers,
Ron.
--
A pessimist is an optimist
in full possession of the fa
tripping up
> gedit performance wise perhaps? (And vi/gvim, presentation wise?)
> Any advice or tips on this, especially from Windows to Linux converts, would
> be gratefully received.
Possibly non-formatted, with one line per paragraph ?
Cheers,
Ron.
--
¿Porqué a medida que
(see page 4)
Cheers,
Ron.
--
The wisdom of the wise,
and the experience of ages,
may be preserved by quotation.
-- Benjamin Dis
tation...
> >
> > https://rhsummit.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/summit_demystifying_systemd1.pdf
> > (see page 4)
> Inexistant.
The pdf exists, and loads perfectly.
?
Cheers,
Ron.
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Faith and force - the destroyers of the modern world.
TBE.
This is why , having been bit once, follow the procedure for new installations:
- Have the /home directory on a separate physical unit.
- Physically disconnect said unit during the install.
- Reconnect after the install has been done without problem, adding the
relevant line to /etc/fsta
ill know nothing about it; you install, then once installed
connect your home CD, boot a live CD, find and delete the content of the /home
created by the installer, add the /dev/sdXXX of your old home drive to fstab,
and reboot.
The installer never sees your old /home so never gets a chance to
://partclone.org ? :)
Or http://clonezilla.org ? ;-3)
Cheers,
Ron.
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On Fri, 06 Feb 2015 23:31:51 +0530
Sivaram Neelakantan wrote:
> The missus is asking "who's Jessie and why are you thinking of her?" ;)
>
> Sure, I'd upgrade to Jessie
That will please the missus...
Cheers,
Ron.
--
Against logic the
t have
> this opportunity as fo yet. Thanks for your thoughts.
I solved the same problem by setting the output volume in pavucontrol.
Cheers,
Ron.
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Go placidly amid the noise and waste, and remember
what value there may be in ownin
On Tue, 17 Feb 2015 16:28:04 +
Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
> "i disagree with what you are saying, but i will defend your right to say it".
> i believe it was someone famous who wrote that,
Attributed to Voltaire; but does not appear in his writings.
On Tue, 24 Feb 2015 14:11:13 +
Lisi Reisz wrote:
> I want a simple ftp client, for putting not getting, that is easy and
> pleasant
> to use. GUI based. For the use of non-geeks as well as myself.
I am quite pleased with Gftp.
Cheers,
Ron.
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> With gFTP being apparently on its way out, being apparently removed by Debian
> 8,
gftp runs well under 7.7, so you have a bit more time before having to change.
Anyway I am not unduly worried as I'll be shifting some time ahead for a
systemd-free distribution.
Cheers,
Ron.
-
directly RJ45 to RJ45 ?
Cheers,
Ron.
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more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great
and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White
t works".
Not much of a problem: (Install and) open wicd, Wired Network Properties, click
Use Static IPs, and 192.168.1.x, and 255.255.255.0
Cheers,
Ron.
--
As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents,
more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On so
> that 254G comes before 1,3T?
Use sort -h ?
Cheers,
Ron.
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with no hypothetical situations ?
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is that you get an honest day's pay for it.
On Wed, 11 Mar 2015 18:16:48 -0300
Martinx - ジェームズ wrote:
> What am I missing?
SysVinit...
Cheers,
Ron.
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may be the headlight of an approaching train.
-- h
e you tested with another mouse, that it is not a HW problem ?
Cheers,
Ron.
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The easiest thing of all is to deceive one's self;
for what a man wishes he generally believes to be true.
;
>
> Then it should take arbitrary binary file and display contents of the
> file nicely according to the description.
>
> If found such a tool exists for MS Windows [1]. I remember there was
> similar for MS DOS. Is there something like that for the Debian GNU/Linux?
COBO
n) helps keep up to date, as it is now 36.0.3 whereas Iceweasel is still
at ? 31.5.3 ?
Cheers,
Ron.
--
Any sufficiently advanced technology
is indistinguishable from magic.
-- Arthur C
On Tue, 24 Mar 2015 10:01:23 -0500
John Hasler wrote:
> What doe 36 have that 33 doesn't?
Security (and other) upgrades...
Cheers,
Ron.
--
Always keep your words soft and sweet,
just in case you have to
some new version has come out and should be looked for.
When using SolydX I had an applet in the panel that warned me when upgrades
were available, but I have found nothing similar in Debian.
Cheers,
Ron.
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What is moral is what you feel good after
and wh
http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20150330#community
Or is it serious ?
Cheers,
Ron.
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The liar at any rate recognizes that recreation, not instruction,
is the aim of conversation, and is a far more civilised being
than the blockhead who loudly expresses his
7;t thinking about this
> before.
I hope he does, and follows the idea.
That way he can fork off, with his systemd bloatware and his own kernel, and
leave the rest of the Linux world return to sanity.
Cheers,
Ron.
--
Falling in
words - no cooperation, discussion
> and respect, we will take over! Completely wrong...
Not to mention so much easier for malware devs...
Cheers,
Ron.
--
Toute loi qui viole les droits imprescriptibles de l'homme,
est essentiellement injuste et tyrann
y-z so I can, in case of problem, easily revert to the
earlier version by changing dir name again. .
And I have a link in /usr/bin pointing to /opt/firefox/firefox
Cheers,
Ron.
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The holy passion of Friendship is of so sweet and steady and loyal
and enduring a nature that it wil
On Fri, 10 Apr 2015 18:11:42 -0400 (EDT)
Bob Bernstein wrote:
> > I don't get on with XFCE either - but that isn't
> > Wheezy's fault.
> It's clearly George W. Bush's fault.
And Tony Bliar ?
Cheers,
Ron.
--
On Thu, 16 Apr 2015 12:27:43 -0400
German wrote:
> I don't think this is important what chip I have. I think that all realtek
> firmware installs in one package.
Excrept that some Realtek-chipped NICs do not work under Linux.
Cheers,
Ron.
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All that is necess
nitors...
Cheers,
Ron.
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So many beautiful women,
and so little time.
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Not to mention that unlike an install, a dist-upgrade does not require
reinstalling all the special configs and tweaks you may have added to the
system.
Cheers,
Ron.
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Sex without love is an empty experience, but,
as empty experiences go, it's one o
g?subject=unsubscribe>
Is that not clear enough for you ?
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s a better bet
> nowadays as far as present and future reliability goes.
What is the pint of a journal for a fs that does not change outside of system
upgrades ?
Cheers,
Ron.
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If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you;
But if you really make t
On Wed, 13 May 2015 12:08:49 +0200
Jazz Au Duc wrote:
> We would like to install UBUNTU , in order to work with good versions of
> GIMP & SCRIBUS .
> Can you help us ?
> Thanks from Brittany.
Le genre de question qui ne va pas améliorer l'image des Bretons.
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