Re: Is "Debian desktop environment" identical to "GNOME" upon installation?

2021-11-05 Thread Greg Wooledge
> Is "Debian desktop environment" identical to "GNOME" upon installation? Assuming you install with one of the REGULAR installers (not one that contains the word "Live" anywhere in its name): yes. Selecting "Debian desktop environment" in the installer simply acts as an alias for whichever deskto

Re: Trying to setup obexd but Operation not permitted

2021-11-05 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Nov 05, 2021 at 02:46:18PM +0100, deloptes wrote: > Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > Check whether the systemd unit file is restricting network access for > > the service/process. > > ??? How do I do this - a hint would be helpful. Start by figuring out the name o

Re: Trying to setup obexd but Operation not permitted

2021-11-05 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Nov 05, 2021 at 10:59:46AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, Nov 05, 2021 at 02:46:18PM +0100, deloptes wrote: > > Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > > Check whether the systemd unit file is restricting network access for > > > the service/process. >

Re: Trying to setup obexd but Operation not permitted

2021-11-05 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Nov 05, 2021 at 06:00:43PM +0100, deloptes wrote: > Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > So, never mind.  Continue whatever other investigations you have lined > > up. > > Ah yes, obexd is meant to be run at user level. In my case it is started by > a master applicatio

Re: Trying to setup obexd but Operation not permitted

2021-11-05 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Nov 05, 2021 at 06:24:38PM +0100, deloptes wrote: > I now used strace > writev(2, [{iov_base="obexd[23074]: PUT(0x2), {iov_base="\n", iov_len=1}], 2) = 40 > sendto(3, "<31>Nov 5 18:04:33 obexd[23074]"..., 59, MSG_NOSIGNAL, NULL, 0) > = 59 > openat(AT_FDCWD, "/home/user/Downloads/20211105_

Re: unkown root password and mkdir problem.

2021-11-05 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Nov 06, 2021 at 07:35:22AM +0800, Jeremy Ardley wrote: > On 6/11/21 7:17 am, Thomas George wrote: > > I have found mkdir in /usr/bin and changed the ownership to root:tom and > > given it rwx permissions but this does not solve the problem. > Try > > sudo passwd root > > And reset the ro

Re: Debian version

2021-11-09 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Nov 09, 2021 at 09:22:25AM +, Koler, Nethanel wrote: > I am Nati, I am trying to find a variable that is configured in the > linux-headers that can tell me on which Debian I am This sounds like an X-Y problem. What's your real objective? There is NOT a one-to-one correspondence bet

Re: Package: nvidia-legacy-390xx-driver

2021-11-09 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Nov 09, 2021 at 04:15:49PM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > On Tue, Nov 09, 2021 at 02:51:33PM +0100, lina wrote: > > Can I have a system with both X-session and the nvidia-driver > > as gaussian view requires > > > > Gaussview must be run in an X-windows session. Details for controlling

Re: Package: nvidia-legacy-390xx-driver

2021-11-10 Thread Greg Wooledge
> > > On Tue, Nov 09, 2021 at 02:51:33PM +0100, lina wrote: > > > > Can I have a system with both X-session and the nvidia-driver > > > > as gaussian view requires > > > > > > > > Gaussview must be run in an X-windows session. On Wed, Nov 10, 2021 at 09:16:12AM +0100, lina wrote: > I use the xfce4

Re: downgrade qt version from 5 to 4

2021-11-11 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 02:10:40PM +0100, lina wrote: > Thanks all for the input. My problem originated from after the system > upgrade to bullseye, the gaussian view (gview) won't be able to show the > result file. > As gview is an essential part in my work, these days my work is stranded > due to

Re: Mutt can not delete mails

2021-11-11 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 02:48:25PM -0600, David Wright wrote: > There should be some indication at this point of why it can't > delete your emails. The reason you see the filename > /home/username/.mutt-cache/scratchpad/mutt-hostname… above is > that I have set tmpdir="$HOME/.mutt-cache/scratchpad"

Re: Problem with Synaptic

2021-11-12 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Nov 12, 2021 at 08:19:15AM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Friday 12 November 2021 07:36:01 Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: > > > On 12/11/2021 09:30, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: > > > This is the immediate problem that I need to fix: > > > > > > comp@AbNormal:~$ sudo apt upgrade > > > Reading pa

Re: Mutt can not delete mails

2021-11-12 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Nov 12, 2021 at 07:06:26PM +0100, Hans wrote: > No, it is not /tmp, but /var/tmp. See here from the output: > [2021-11-11 22:08:39] ../../mbox.c:895: mutt_mktemp returns "/var/tmp/mutt- > protheus2-1000-47311-14301765248385272183". > [2021-11-11 22:08:39] Temporärdatei konnte nicht erzeugt

Re: Mutt can not delete mails

2021-11-12 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Nov 12, 2021 at 08:58:18PM +0100, Hans wrote: > Greg Wooledge: > > chmod 1777 /var/tmp > > Yes, that works, of course! But I do not understand why the settings are > wrong. You said you've got /var on a separate partition. Was it always that way (i.e. you created

Re: Where do I find the definitive man page for mdadm?

2021-11-13 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Nov 13, 2021 at 04:06:43PM -0700, Charles Curley wrote: > On Sat, 13 Nov 2021 16:57:01 -0500 > Gene Heskett wrote: > > > So which of these various UUID's is actually valid in an fstab > > Thanks, Andy. This is nice to know about. > > Gene, the answer is, anythng the TYPE of which is a v

Re: Where do I find the definitive man page for mdadm?

2021-11-13 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Nov 13, 2021 at 08:37:19PM -0700, Tom Dial wrote: > Device UUIDs are kind of ugly, but in my experience they are stable > across both OS updates and physical movement of the file systems they > contain as long as what is copied is the disk partition. I do not think > copying a file system (

Re: Debian 9 on H410 hardware / Upgraded to 11 - Zenity width quirk

2021-11-17 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 10:35:20AM -0500, Allen Hoover wrote: > line. For instance, zenity --info --text "The quick brown fox jumped > over the lazy dogs", displays in 5 rows, instead of in 1 row like it > used to before upgrading. The behaviour is the same on a fresh install > of 11. > > Was

Re: How to cause a process started in .xsessionrc to terminate with x-session termination?

2021-11-17 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 10:39:21PM +0100, Arkadiusz Dabrowski wrote: > I have a problem with unison sync termination when it is started from > .xsessionrc. > It works flawlessly but when I log out it is orphaned and not terminated. > I start it like this: > nice -n18 ionice -c2 -n7 unison unison_pr

Re: How to cause a process started in .xsessionrc to terminate with x-session termination?

2021-11-18 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 08:21:00PM -0500, songbird wrote: > Arkadiusz Dabrowski wrote: > ... > > It works flawlessly but when I log out it is orphaned and not terminated. > > I start it like this: > > nice -n18 ionice -c2 -n7 unison unison_profile &>/dev/null & > > Once started the parent is x-sess

Re: How to cause a process started in .xsessionrc to terminate with x-session termination?

2021-11-18 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Nov 18, 2021 at 02:34:52PM -0600, David Wright wrote: > On Wed 17 Nov 2021 at 22:39:21 (+0100), Arkadiusz Dabrowski wrote: > > > I have a problem with unison sync termination when it is started from > > .xsessionrc. > > It works flawlessly but when I log out it is orphaned and not terminat

Re: How to cause a process started in .xsessionrc to terminate with x-session termination?

2021-11-18 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Nov 18, 2021 at 09:21:34PM +, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Thu, Nov 18, 2021 at 03:46:48PM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > (I still wonder whether systemd offers anything relevant here. And if > > not, what the hell *is* the point of systemctl --user? I've ne

Re: How to cause a process started in .xsessionrc to terminate with x-session termination?

2021-11-20 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Nov 20, 2021 at 09:46:24PM +0100, Arkadiusz Dabrowski wrote: > Unfortunately, the solution with .xsession file doesn't work. > I resorted to something very simplistic: > > > exec /usr/bin/marco > > > Note: I use mate desktop with marco wm. I doubt very much that this is the correct com

Re: If the variable has its 'integer' attribute set,

2021-11-20 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Nov 21, 2021 at 01:37:14AM +, sim sim wrote: > I do not understand  "If the variable has its 'integer' attribute set," where > the variable has an 'integer' attribute, after all, this is not a function? They're talking about "declare -i". Which is really a stupid thing and I wish it

Re: How to cause a process started in .xsessionrc to terminate with x-session termination?

2021-11-21 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Nov 21, 2021 at 07:18:23PM +0100, Arkadiusz Dabrowski wrote: > Have you considered using my suggestion? Put these two lines in .xsession: > > > > . /etc/X11/Xsession > > pkill unison > > > > Keep your .xsessionrc which starts the unison program. (Or you could > > move it here, later, but

Re: If the variable has its 'integer' attribute set,

2021-11-21 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Nov 21, 2021 at 07:18:09PM +, Darac Marjal wrote: > You probably already know that if you write: > > i = 65 > > then several things happen: Only one thing happens: bash tries to run the command named "i" and you will almost certainly get an error message saying "command not found".

Re: How to cause a process started in .xsessionrc to terminate with x-session termination?

2021-11-22 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Nov 21, 2021 at 11:39:53PM -0600, David Wright wrote: > On Sun 21 Nov 2021 at 14:16:26 (-0500), Greg Wooledge wrote: > > So then, it would look something like this: > > > > your unison thing & > > unisonPID=$! > > other things you want to run

Re: How to cause a process started in .xsessionrc to terminate with x-session termination?

2021-11-22 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Nov 22, 2021 at 03:25:02PM +, Musbur wrote: > Am 20.11.2021 22:19 schrieb Greg Wooledge: > > On Sat, Nov 20, 2021 at 09:46:24PM +0100, Arkadiusz Dabrowski wrote: > > > Started with "exec" according to Debian documentation: > > > https://wiki.debi

Re: How to cause a process started in .xsessionrc to terminate with x-session termination?

2021-11-22 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Nov 22, 2021 at 10:58:28AM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > (Unless someone can figure out how to make systemd do this.) Google found <https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/systemd/User> which is the first time I've ever seen an attempt at an end user's guide for systemd --us

Re: How to cause a process started in .xsessionrc to terminate with x-session termination?

2021-11-22 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Nov 22, 2021 at 02:45:28PM -0600, David Wright wrote: > I implied in my first post that a background job started in .xsession > would be killed when the X server terminated, be that by reaching the > end of the .xsession script (if you prefer that expression), or by > killing the X server (

Re: How to cause a process started in .xsessionrc to terminate with x-session termination?

2021-11-23 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Nov 23, 2021 at 12:05:37PM +, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Mon, Nov 22, 2021 at 11:39:46AM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > I don't know the exact time that I closed the login shell on tty2. It > > *could* have been at exactly 11:19:00 but that seems like a su

Re: what is flooding /var/tmp?

2021-11-24 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Nov 25, 2021 at 04:23:23AM +0100, sp...@caiway.net wrote: > Hello, > > My /var/tmp directory gets flooded by big files named: > > sort01ei1t > sort01Eq7u > sort01sLAs > ... > sortzZZtvv > > > the files are approx. 13 Gb each. > In 24 hours > 6000 are written. > How can I find out which

Re: Impossible to give "write" permission on a sub folder

2021-11-26 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Nov 26, 2021 at 07:30:32PM +, Brian wrote: > On Fri 26 Nov 2021 at 09:29:50 +0100, lists.deb...@netc.eu wrote: > > > Hello to all, I have a dual boot PC with Windows 10 and Debian 11 This PC > > has 2 drives, one SSD that has both operating systems and a HDD where I > > store all oth

Re: MD5 listing format

2021-11-28 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 12:57:00PM -0600, David Wright wrote: > I was taken by surprise by the following output from md5sum: > $ echo special/* > special/C:\nppdf32Log\debuglog.txt special/same-contents > $ md5sum special/* > \adfc1d2f1b1d6c7fcaa51e857c1a6f68 special/C:\\nppdf32Log\\debuglog.txt >

Re: Don't try this at home kids

2021-11-30 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Nov 30, 2021 at 11:12:49AM -0600, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 11:57 PM Joe Pfeiffer wrote: > > David Wright writes: > > > As /etc/sudoers already contains the line: > > > > > > %sudo ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL > > > > > > one should be able to achieve the same effect by > > >

Re: Double boot (Windows & Debian) with UEFI mode

2021-12-02 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Dec 02, 2021 at 10:37:38AM +0100, fran...@libero.it wrote: > How to install os-prober? apt install os-prober > I think I have to be able to boot Debian first to be able to install it later. > > Right? Yes. Either boot Debian natively, or boot some sort of rescue system, mount the Debia

Re: Status of Bookworm

2021-12-03 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Dec 04, 2021 at 12:30:52PM +1100, Keith Bainbridge wrote: > netinst is cli only ... what? NO! > try > > sudo tasksel > > and choose desktop options. xfce is listed The netinst image contains the same installer as the full DVD-1 image does. The task selection menu that you get at the

Re: OT: SSL Negotiation Failed

2021-12-05 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Dec 05, 2021 at 08:18:53AM -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > The kmail I use is an older version Wheezy (1.13.7 in kde 4.8.4) The fact that something from wheezy fails to interoperate with current-day TLS web sites is not a surprise at all. Sorry, but this is just *way* too old to expect

Re: filesystem I'd?

2021-12-06 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Dec 06, 2021 at 06:34:14PM -0800, Gene Heskett wrote: > Whats the name of the filesystem used on 64G micro-sd's labeled SDXC ? Are you asking us how you could find out? 'Cause you can't seriously expect us to know what file system is on your device. One way to find out would be to mount

Re: Firefox ESR EOL

2021-12-09 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Dec 09, 2021 at 01:27:56PM -0500, Dan Ritter wrote: > It is absolutely okay to create a FrankenDebian with repos from > testing, unstable, Ubuntu Jovial Jackrabbit and a cronjob that > looks for changes to a webpage somewhere in oracle.com and > automatically downloads and installs a new Ja

Re: Update Debian 9 to 10

2021-12-09 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Dec 09, 2021 at 01:12:15PM -0600, David Wright wrote: > Actually, the paragraph I referred to in §4.1.5, but did not quote, > is missing from buster (but was in stretch): > > "4.1.5 Prepare a safe environment for the upgrade > > "The distribution upgrade should be done either locally fr

Re: upgrade - packages have been kept back

2021-12-09 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Dec 09, 2021 at 11:58:33PM +0100, teamas...@mad-hatters-teatime.teanet.org wrote: > root@saira:~# apt-get upgrade > Reading package lists... Done > Building dependency tree > Reading state information... Done > Calculating upgrade... Done > The following packages have been kept back

Re: changed file while editing

2021-12-11 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Dec 11, 2021 at 05:18:32PM -0500, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote: > On Saturday 11 December 2021 02:39:06 pm David Wright wrote: > > Another facility that I don't use is "click-to-focus", because > > I prefer to focus a window just by shoving the mouse inside it > > (no precision required). >

Re: Update Debian 9 to 10

2021-12-13 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Dec 13, 2021 at 12:04:32PM +0200, Thanos Katsiolis wrote: > Thank you Piotr for your response. > > As I responded to Andrei lower in the thread, neither DM nor DE must have > been installed. > > I would like to get GNOME, so I will try to install it. Does this affect > the DM somehow? If

Re: changed file while editing

2021-12-16 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 06:04:05PM +, mick crane wrote: > Is it at all possible that running Perl executable file somehow shares the > same memory as same file opened in vi and they get jumbled? No. Each process has its own private memory space. Even if you WROTE to the file (via perl or any

Re: Fwd: Returned mail: see transcript for details

2021-12-16 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 03:10:17PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > >- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors - > > >- Transcript of session follows - > ... Deferred: Connection refused by lists.apple.com. > Message could not be delivered for 5 days > Message will

Re: doas 101 question

2021-12-17 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Dec 17, 2021 at 12:20:43PM -0800, David Newman wrote: > How to configure /etc/doas.conf so a non-root user gets root's PATH? This works for me: unicorn:~$ PATH=/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin unicorn:~$ cat /etc/doas.conf permit setenv { PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bi

Re: doas 101 question

2021-12-18 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Dec 17, 2021 at 09:20:59PM -0800, David Newman wrote: > Thanks for this. I get similar results where doas shows root's PATH -- but I > cannot execute a file called '/usr/local/sbin/s', which is owned by > root:root and has 0750 permissions, unless I specify the full path: > > dnewman@coppi

GRUB really slow to boot

2021-12-18 Thread Greg Wooledge
Today I rebooted my machine for the first time in quite a while, after the kernel update that was released along with Debian 11.2. When it reached the GRUB screen, I pressed Enter, and nothing happened as far as I could see. I was initially worried that it had stopped seeing my USB keyboard (a th

Re: GRUB really slow to boot

2021-12-18 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Dec 18, 2021 at 10:23:54PM +, James Dutton wrote: > Hi, > > This is most likely a failing disk. > Please post the output of: > smartctl -a /dev/sda > > or whatever your disk device name is, if not sda smartctl 7.2 2020-12-30 r5155 [x86_64-linux-5.10.0-10-amd64] (local build) Copyrig

Re: GRUB really slow to boot

2021-12-18 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Dec 18, 2021 at 11:42:23PM +, James Dutton wrote: > Disk looks OK to me. > Next, check no USB devices are connected while it boots. > Disable "quiet" boot mode, so you can see all the boot up messages. > This will give you an idea where it is going slow. "quiet" is a kernel parameter.

Re: GRUB really slow to boot

2021-12-19 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Dec 19, 2021 at 12:54:04PM +, James Dutton wrote: > One question, does it boot faster if you just press enter at the grub > menu, and don't wait for the counter? On Sat, Dec 18, 2021 at 11:08:37AM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: [...] > When it reached the GRUB screen, I

Re: GRUB really slow to boot

2021-12-19 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Dec 19, 2021 at 07:19:40AM +, Tim Woodall wrote: > Check if the kernel log jumps from 1/1/70 to today as it boots. That > would point to the RTC being bad when the kernel first starts. Not sure which log I'd need to look at for this information. dmesg only reports time in relative sec

Re: GRUB really slow to boot

2021-12-19 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Dec 19, 2021 at 02:17:17PM -, Curt wrote: > Did we see /etc/default/grub? Could this resolution bug lead to a > resolution via a new resolution for the New Year? > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/480159 > > 11 years old, but still extant. I've used GRUB interac

Re: qmail package in bullseye

2021-12-24 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Dec 24, 2021 at 09:58:11PM +0900, 황병희 wrote: > Hi, there is no qmail package in bullseye. what's wrong? If you wish to use qmail, the recommended way to do it is: 1) Install equivs, and use it to build the "mta-local" package. There's an example file for it: /usr/share/doc/equivs/ex

Re: doas 101 question

2021-12-25 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Dec 24, 2021 at 08:32:14PM -0800, David Robert Newman wrote: > I asked doas author Ted Unangst about this. His reply: > > > Sorry, only very limited env replacement can be done in setenv. root's > > environment isn't available before the switch. > > Ergo, it is just as you suspected. Thi

Re: Problem with Terminal Paste

2022-01-01 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Jan 01, 2022 at 12:57:45PM -0500, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: > i have finally upgraded my Debian Platform from Buster to Bullseye. > > I am pleased, but the terminal paste function reverses the colors from black > print on white background to white type on black background. I find this > rat

Re: Replace line in file based on pattern

2022-01-02 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Jan 02, 2022 at 06:20:15PM -0500, The Wanderer wrote: > If you mean that you want to only replace the first matching line in the > file, but leave any subsequent matching lines alone... I've never > actually had occasion to do that, but a bit of Googling (for 'sed first > match only') found

Re: Replace line in file based on pattern

2022-01-02 Thread Greg Wooledge
I'm rearranging the order of the quoted sections. On Sun, Jan 02, 2022 at 08:14:47PM -0500, The Wanderer wrote: > That's very interesting, although not all that accessible to the > relative newcomer to the field. It does leave me sad about the apparent > conclusion that there is no safe way to edi

Re: Replace line in file based on pattern

2022-01-02 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Jan 02, 2022 at 09:59:08PM -0500, Paul M. Foster wrote: > Regarding "patch", let's consider a "stock" config file from a fresh install > (call it NEW), and an existing config which is tweaked for my purposes (call > it OLD). Assume I want the stock config altered to conform to my > existing

Re: why bash completion sometimes doesn't work?

2022-01-03 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Jan 03, 2022 at 05:25:31AM +, Long Wind wrote: > when i type "ifdown wl" and press Tab, it shall complete it with full device > name wlx12345 > i believe it's taken from /etc/network/interfaces > but sometimes it doesn't work in buster You're describing "programmable completion", whic

Re: why bash completion sometimes doesn't work?

2022-01-03 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Jan 03, 2022 at 08:12:50PM +, Long Wind wrote: > Thank Greg!  i use bash 5.0-4 and bash-completion 1:2.8-6 > i type "ifdown wl" and press Tab, nothing happens > there's only one wireless device in /etc/network/interfaces > it shall complete command to "ifdown wlx12345" > > i've read

Re: why bash completion sometimes doesn't work?

2022-01-03 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Jan 03, 2022 at 11:56:57PM +, Long Wind wrote: > Thank Greg and David! > > i type "ifdown ", it add lo automatically, > wireless device isn't shown, though wireless connection works well > > i think "ip a" can list wireless device Well, it sounds like _configured_interfaces on your s

Re: couldn't build pipe-viewer with debian

2022-01-03 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Jan 03, 2022 at 07:38:25PM -0500, Jude DaShiell wrote: > pipe-viewer youtube-viewer and straw-viewer cannot be built with debian. > The reasons for that are each of those packages require > Term::ReadLine::Gnu and Term::ReadLine::Gnu cannot be built withreadline > 2.0. That's an ancient ve

Re: why bash completion sometimes doesn't work?

2022-01-03 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Jan 04, 2022 at 02:39:24AM +, Long Wind wrote: > > Thank Greg Wooledge! > > it seems solved, > there's more whitespace between iface and device name, > i correct it to just one space, and bash completion works for ifup/ifdown Might be worth a bug report.

Dragging tabs in Google Chrome 97

2022-01-05 Thread Greg Wooledge
This morning, I did my normal apt-get update/upgrade, and this brought in a new version of google-chrome-stable ii google-chrome-stable 97.0.4692.71-1 amd64The web browser from Google After restarting in the new version of Chrome, I am unable to move tabs around within a window. Any att

Re: Dragging tabs in Google Chrome 97

2022-01-05 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Jan 05, 2022 at 09:14:07AM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > This morning, I did my normal apt-get update/upgrade, and this brought > in a new version of google-chrome-stable > > ii google-chrome-stable 97.0.4692.71-1 amd64The web browser from > Google > > Af

Re: Dragging tabs in Google Chrome 97

2022-01-05 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Jan 05, 2022 at 11:13:46AM -0500, Cindy Sue Causey wrote: > I don't have answers toward a permanent resolution but still wanted to > suggest that CTRL+SHIFT+[pageUP/pageDOWN] works for me to > alternatively move tabs around one position at a time. Am hoping that > also works (universally) i

Re: Single broken package blocks whole package management

2022-01-05 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Jan 05, 2022 at 05:26:21PM +0100, Urs Thuermann wrote: > Yes, and my question should be about dpkg & friends how to get out of > that state where a single corrupted package blocks everything. Use dpkg to purge it. With force if needed. dpkg --force-help

Re: Dragging tabs in Google Chrome 97

2022-01-05 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Jan 05, 2022 at 05:16:27PM -, Curt wrote: > On 2022-01-05, David Wright wrote: > >> > >> As of this morning's update, dragging and dropping items in this game > >> doesn't work either. The dragging part appears to work correctly, as > >> far as I can tell -- there is visual feedback

Re: still fixing stuff the upgrade broke...

2022-01-06 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Jan 06, 2022 at 01:01:07AM -0500, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote: > So I downloaded the current version of the program. This gets incremental > upgrades all the time, and the latest one is chirp20220103, which I > downloaded. When I went to invoke it directly, there was an error about > so

Re: odd question re man pages

2022-01-07 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Jan 07, 2022 at 11:41:45AM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > On Fri, Jan 07, 2022 at 05:01:05AM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > > I've noted that there can be links to a web page in a man page that are > In a terminal: left click might not do anything but right click will bring > up a menu f

Re: odd question re man pages

2022-01-07 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Jan 07, 2022 at 01:09:38PM -, Curt wrote: > I'd rather just cut and paste the URI in the always-open browser, but > then again I've never had that old hacker spirit. That's what I do too. I like my terminals to be relatively frill-free. Obviously that's just my preference, and I know

Re: downsides to replacing xfce4-terminal?

2022-01-07 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Jan 07, 2022 at 01:26:22PM -0500, Lee wrote: > so what are the downsides, if any, to replacing > /usr/bin/xfce4-terminal with the one I build from the xfce4-terminal > 0.9.1 source tarball? The biggest obvious flaw in doing this is that your custom local version will be overwritten the nex

Re: downsides to replacing xfce4-terminal?

2022-01-07 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Jan 08, 2022 at 12:16:44AM +0100, Michael Lange wrote: > In case you have a mouse with a wheel, what's wrong with middle-button > pasting? It's virtually impossible to press the wheel without accidentally turning it, either forward or backward. Depending on where you're clicking, this can

Re: 8 -> 9 update changing things

2022-01-11 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 01:15:05PM +0100, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Lu, 03 ian 22, 14:02:05, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote: > > In the one that was running to start with, the command line shown to > > me in system monitor includes "daemonize=no". I would guess that to > > be the problem, but why

Re: 8 -> 9 update changing things

2022-01-11 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 11:03:55AM -0500, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote: > What I'm not clear on at this point is why the instance of it that's started > by the system doesn't seem to work, while the one that I start manually at > some point later on does. Pulse Audio is still quite mysterious to m

Re: Limit dir write by storage size

2022-01-11 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Jan 12, 2022 at 02:03:45AM +0800, Yamadaえりな wrote: > For a debian based system, how can I setup that, if a dir has total storage > size reached to the max, it won’t be writable anymore? That sounds tricky. It depends on your exact needs, and the exact "threat" you're protecting against.

Re: 8 -> 9 update changing things

2022-01-11 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 12:42:11PM -0500, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote: > On Tuesday 11 January 2022 11:24:27 am Greg Wooledge wrote: > > But if I let it start itself automatically on demand, then it works > > straight out of the gate with no issues. So far, anyway! > > How

Re: freeing up some space

2022-01-11 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 11:11:21PM +, Brian wrote: > > apt-get clean is a fairly useful command. > > Indeed it it is. But what useful function does it perform on a default > installation? Some users appear to think that downloaded and installed > packages are preserved in /vat/cache/apt/archiv

Re: Debian 11 xfce

2022-01-12 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Jan 12, 2022 at 09:52:01AM -0600, c. marlow wrote: > I honestly don't see what people see in XFCE > > To me, XFCE looks VERY DATED and out of the 90s. You say that like it's a bad thing. For many people, a user interface that keeps changing every few years is incredibly annoying. There

Re: restructure folders

2022-01-13 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Jan 13, 2022 at 10:26:55AM +0100, sp...@caiway.net wrote: > > > I want to extract all man pages and all docs from all packages. I do > > > not want to install the packages. Then make nice search interfaces > > > with dwww and recoll. First of all, this already exists: https://manpages.deb

Re: Debian vs Firefox

2022-01-13 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Jan 13, 2022 at 09:45:21PM +, Richmond wrote: > Emanuel Berg writes: > > Is the feud between Debian and Firefox sorted out? > > I believe the feud was sorted out. I recently went out of my way to try > to get icecat, and found it eventually in a linux distribution called > Parabola, w

Re: Instalacja Debian8 błąd w Release

2022-01-14 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Jan 14, 2022 at 05:56:19PM +0100, Wojciech wrote: > choose-mirror pointing to the branch > http://ftp.pl.debian.org/debian/dists/jessie/ > The Release found there points (redirects) to > http://ftp.pl.debian.org/debian/dists/oldoldstable/ > At that location lies another distribution/differe

Re: Firefox PDF download - strange behaviour.

2022-01-16 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Jan 16, 2022 at 05:47:13PM +0100, Kamil Jońca wrote: > Recently I recognized strange behaviour during pdf download with > firefox. > 1. When I enter target name with colon - this colon is replaced with > space. Probably because colons are not allowed in filenames on Microsoft platforms. I

Re: Multiple 7zip extract

2022-01-16 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Jan 16, 2022 at 02:48:00PM -0600, David Wright wrote: > You obviously meant something else by "Every extracted file must be in > the same directory" from the literal meaning that I employed. Yes, the wording is quite ambiguous. > "My problem is extracting 7z files … into their own directo

Re: Re: XEN domU: Guest Rx stalled, unreachable

2022-01-16 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Jan 16, 2022 at 10:11:30PM +0100, Felix Odenkirchen wrote: > A udev update changed the interface name for virtual network devices > from "eth0" to "enX0" (using persistent block device naming scheme), https://wiki.debian.org/NewInBuster#Network_interface_name_migration Which version of De

Re: /usr/share/calendar.usholiday

2022-01-16 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Jan 16, 2022 at 09:58:11PM -0600, Martin McCormick wrote: > There's a stale version of this file on my system that reflects > when Debian was installed but it brings a question to mind. The one in the Subject: header? Are you sure that's the correct path for this file? On Debian 11, I ha

Re: /usr/share/calendar.usholiday

2022-01-17 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 07:16:25AM -0600, Martin McCormick wrote: > I am presently running > > Debian GNU/Linux 10 as in Buster. Buster was released in the summer of 2019, so it's not totally unreasonable for one of its packages to have been last updated in 2017. Especially if there weren't any c

Re: /usr/share/calendar.usholiday

2022-01-17 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 08:25:42AM -0600, Martin McCormick wrote: > The entry in that file probably should read: > > 01/MonThird Martin Luther King Birthday (3rd Monday of January) unicorn:/usr/share/calendar$ grep Luther * calendar.birthday:01/15 Martin Luther King, Jr. born, 1929 calend

Re: Regarding: LXDE -- NOW: Mix n Match

2022-01-17 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 09:00:18AM -0600, c. marlow wrote: > I am just wondering if the email called: > [...] > Came through to the list? Check the list archive on the web, at or other third-party archives.

Re: Hyper-typematic and Firefox responsiveness in Weston.

2022-01-18 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 08:13:58PM -0800, pe...@easthope.ca wrote: > This shell function is defined in .bashrc and used to start firefox. > > fire () { case $# in > 0) /usr/bin/firefox-esr --display=:0 file:///home/peter/MY/Peter.html#Links > & ;; > 1) /usr/bin/firefox-esr --display=:0 $1 & ;

Re: Followup to my last...

2022-01-18 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 11:29:12PM -0800, R. Toby Richards wrote: > I'm installing Debian 11. The installer says that it is missing firmware > files: b43/ucode11.fw, b43/ucode11.fw, b43-open/ucode11.fw and > b43-open/ucode.fw. If you have such media available now, insert it, and > continue. You'v

Re: cooperative.co.uk has address 127.0.0.1

2022-01-18 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 01:19:58PM +, Richmond wrote: > Why do I see this? > > host cooperative.co.uk > cooperative.co.uk has address 127.0.0.1 Because whoever set up that DNS zone made an error. unicorn:~$ host cooperative.co.uk cooperative.co.uk has address 127.0.0.1

Re: Dragging tabs in Google Chrome 97

2022-01-20 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Jan 05, 2022 at 11:54:22AM -0500, Dan Ritter wrote: > Greg Wooledge wrote: > > This morning, I did my normal apt-get update/upgrade, and this brought > > in a new version of google-chrome-stable > > > > ii google-chrome-stable 97.0.4692.71-1 amd64The w

Re: hostname is being reset, killing net on reboot

2022-01-21 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Jan 21, 2022 at 07:27:11PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > On Friday, January 21, 2022 6:45:52 PM EST Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 21, 2022 at 06:42:38PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > > > So how do I officially set the hostname so its reboot proof? > > > > hostnamectl set hostname

Re: hostname is being reset, killing net on reboot

2022-01-21 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Jan 21, 2022 at 09:34:35PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > /etc/resolv.conf has: > search coyote.den > nameserver 192.168.xx.1 > > the search line says to look in the /etc/hosts file, failing that, the > nameserver line sends the dns lookup query to the router No, that's not correct. The c

Re: firejail: changing Ethernet network adapter name is breaking Firefox profile

2022-01-22 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Jan 22, 2022 at 10:00:34AM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sat, Jan 22, 2022 at 08:28:34AM +0100, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > On Lu, 17 ian 22, 22:43:49, piorunz wrote: > > > > > > Problem is, every now and then, Ethernet adapter name changes, from > > > enp5s0 to enp6s0 for example. >

Re: hostname is being reset, killing net on reboot

2022-01-22 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Jan 22, 2022 at 01:57:38PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > So my resolv.conf says to search coyote.den, and failing that, use my > isp's nameserver [...] Again: that is NOT what the resolv.conf file does. The /etc/nsswitch.conf file *SHOULD* tell your system to use the /etc/hosts file first

Re: hostname is being reset, killing net on reboot

2022-01-23 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Jan 23, 2022 at 08:50:56AM +0100, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Sb, 22 ian 22, 20:07:45, David Wright wrote: > > > > Because the basic /etc/hosts file looks something like: > > > > 127.0.0.1 localhost > > 192.168.1.1 router.corp router > > 192.168.1.2 cascade.corpca

Re: "Package was removed from Debian because of a variable name" myth (?) (was: Re: Why did Norbert Preining (having maintained KDE) left Debian?)

2022-01-23 Thread Greg Wooledge
> > > > This diff might give you an idea of some of the problems with this > > > > software (sadly broken TLS setup so have to click through warning): > > > > > > > > https://gitlab.com/woob/woob/-/merge_requests/228/diffs#85eabf8cd7ee0b4611976309bd723f6ad7b301c4_785_784 > If you insist on continu

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