in my 2.2.10
kernel source. You can probably use symlinks all the time, but you
should read /usr/doc/libc6-dev/FAQ.Debian.gz to understand the rationale
as to why the headers are packaged this way.
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I just looked in vmware-distrib and there ISN'T any Makefile (?). It
looks like install.pl handles it (somehow, it's beyond my grasp of
perl).
Bob
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> What I've done is put my kernel source's
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load
some modules. Assuming that that this uses the floppy tape interface
and the card is an accelerator card, take a look at the ftape web page:
http://www.math1.rwth-aachen.de/~heine/ftape/
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(errno 3): Server error.
I have no idea what caused this. /etc/X11/XF86Config hasn't changed and
ran fine for a couple of years. I reinstalled the old kernel and it made
no difference. I'm running potato, kernel 2.2.10 on a K6-2/350 with 64
MB ram. It's a generic video
On Fri, Jul 02, 1999 at 03:35:58AM -0500, Michael Merten wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 02, 1999 at 12:15:01AM -0700, G. Crimp wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 01, 1999 at 09:14:14PM -0700, Bob Nielsen wrote:
> [snip]
> >
> > > (**) FontPath set to
> > > "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/f
On Fri, Jul 02, 1999 at 07:51:53AM -0500, jason wrote:
> Where can i get all the debs i need to make the big switch?? like maybe a
> server to add to my apt config
deb http://ftp.netgod.net/ x/
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"unzip" form this format?
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Well, the problem occured after yesterday's potato update and went away
after today's update (whew!). I can't find anything in the changelog
which would explain it. Oh well, that's why it's called "unstable".
Bob
On Fri, Jul 02, 1999 at 06:56:35AM -0700,
d in /boot/config-. If not,
.config should be in /usr/src/linux.
Also, anything compiled as a module should show up in
/lib/modules/.
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he 2 cd problemn but I just don't know. HELP.
Try it without the leading slash (debian/dists/...)
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You need to put liblocal-gettext-perl on hold.
Bob
On Sat, Jul 03, 1999 at 08:03:35PM -0500, Brad wrote:
> On Fri, 2 Jul 1999, Christian Dysthe wrote:
>
> > I tried to do a dselect update on my potato box today. New Perl debs caused
> > a
> > lot of trouble.
>
ng message (my modem is on ttyS0, I've changed sendfax)
> /dev/ttyS0..OK
> /usr/sbin/sendfax: not a class 2/2.0 fax modem.
>
> What does it mean, class 2/2.0 fax modem.
> I have a internal Trust Communicator 56K fax modem !
This sounds like /etc/hylafax/config.ttyS0 is misconfigured. Did you
successfully run faxaddmodem?
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> of a notebook is still in the pipeline, so printing will have to do for now
> :-)
If you have a postscript printer (or gs),
man -t fetchmail | lpr
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tserial and some others. Could I have by hook and crook managed to
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What I did was to select a PostScript driver (one of the laserwriters)
and print to lp. It works fine with magicfilter.
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On Tue, Jul 06, 1999 at 12:23:19PM -0500, Kelly Corbin wrote:
> I've searched through the archives, and can't find a solution to my
> particular proble
I agree wholeheartedly. It is probably safest at this point to do
upgrades with 'apt-get upgrade' rather than with dselect. Or run
'apt-get update' and see what packages it intends to keep back, say no,
go to dselect and put those packages on hold.
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On Tue, Jul 06, 1999
have internet access via this machine?
A proxy server is probably not for you in that case. Have you looked at
IP masquerading? Take a look at the IP-Masquerade mini-HOWTO.
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ver tried mgetty+sendfax, but hylafax (you need both the client
and server packages) works fine with class 1 fax modems. I also tried
efax, but couldn't get it to work (probably because of modem
incompatibility).
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Ricardo "DomÃnguez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Hi my name is Ricardo Dominguez Ezquerro, and i work in Anahuac Universityin
> Mexico City, but i have 2 problems, the first one:
>
> I need install Linux at Sparcstation 4 but in all pages exist the sofware
> for PC, but for Sparc nothing.
>
et them up for X. If anyone either has the correct XF86Config
entries or a reference to where I can find the specs, I would appreciate
the information.
The monitors are:
IBM 8512-001
Samsung CVL-4951
TIA,
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ction died as soon as the POP server died, so that much is
good. :-/
I'm hoping someone has already gotten Eudora to talk to a Debian box. If
not some advice on what I'm doing wrong with either approach would be very
well! Thanks for the help!!
On Fri, Jul 09, 1999 at 02:00:07AM -0400, Carl Mummert wrote:
> Why not just set their shell to /bin/false or some such.
Thanks. I'll give it a try.
bob
they can supply apt-friendly .deb packages
on their site.
Bob
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I got it from there several months ago but when I went back to look for
any updates, the kde stuff was gone. I guess I should try again.
Thamks.
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On Fri, Jul 09, 1999 at 08:55:38PM +, Bradley Bell wrote:
> On Fri, 9 Jul 1999, Bob Nielsen wrote:
> > On Fri, Jul 09, 1999 at 0
bad. Debian has more stuff packaged
than anybody else, so the need is typically less. Non-packaged software
should go in /usr/local to keep it separate from the rest, so things
don't break when you upgrade, etc.
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new svga driver (you do not use the driver
for your video card -- thing virtual. I'm getting 1024x768 full screen
and it works fine.
There are many technical support pages on the vmware web site. They
also have some news groups that I have found helpful.
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Perchance did you not change your /etc/printcap to point to /dev/lp0
instead of /dev/lp1?
Bob
On Sun, Jul 11, 1999 at 03:54:04PM -0600, Gary L. Hennigan wrote:
> So I decided to take the plunge and install a 2.2.x kernel (2.2.10),
> under slink. Everything works fine, except for print
> couldn't get mick to route to the internet for addresses other than
> 192.168.01 and 192.168.02.
Not sure what you mean by that last sentence, since you say you are *not*
connecting mack to the internet. Off the top of my head I wonder if you had
'defaultroute' set as a ppp o
s: sndconfig-0.33-1.i386.rpm. This on a potato level Debian
system...
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so what did you do, or does sndconfig run anyway?
Yes, I got that error. (I had forgotten about that.)
I did an alien rpm->deb with the newt-0.40-9.i386.rpm and installed the
resultant deb.
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> However, I have
> 127.0.0.1ullocalhost
Try
127.0.0.1 localhost u1
The format is: ip hostname nickname
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er chown 0710 I get
>
> rhino:~# ls -al .fetchmailrc
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 164 Jul 12 15:51 .fetchmailrc
>
> What am I doing wrong?
chmod, not chown
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So
how to edit isapnp.conf after I had
created it with pnpdump. That's what sndconfig did for me, so if you use
pnpdump, then maybe you could ask around for help with editing the isapnp.conf
file.
This all assumes that whatever support your card needs has been built into the
kernel and/o
ion of XFree86 and
> recompiling it, is there another way? (someone already creating a .deb
> to use...)
XF86 3.3.3.1 is available for slink. Point /etc/apt/sources.list to:
deb http://ftp.netgod.net/ x/
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etc.
I guess we occasionally need a reminder why there are warnings about
running unstable.
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bian list I subscribe to. I am using Potato and regularly upgrade using
> unstable. I will do as you suggest and leave it a few days.
Using 'apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade' appears to be safer than
upgrading with dselect. The offending packages are held back and
netscape, etc.,
. However, I had to install the Win95 driver three
times before Win95 recognized one and tried three different cards that
Win98 recognized (one incorrectly) but wouldn't talk to.
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Is there a command that will do (so to speak) the inverse of chmod, i.e. if
given the name of a file return its current permissions in octal?
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at($1))[2] & 0x1ff)'
Needless to add I know as much about shell scripts as Hillary does about New
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Thanks to all for the rapid-fire primer in perl. Come to think it, I now know
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host.domain is the FQDN of the host I want to relay for. After
doing this it works for me.
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On Thu, Jul 15, 1999 at 04:01:22PM -0600, Mike Patterson wrote:
>
> Richard A Nelson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> : 1) Make sure /etc/resolv.conf is setup correctly
> :if you can't do
On Thu, Jul 15, 1999 at 05:08:47PM -0500, Michael Merten wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 15, 1999 at 05:15:29PM +0100, Phillip Deackes wrote:
> > Bob Nielsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > =>
> > => Using 'apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade' appears to be sa
Taper has been alternately stable and broken for some time now. I've
been using tob on both slink and potato with good results for a few
years.
Bob
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No. What is annoying is that despite the fact that several times in this
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continue to do it.
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there anything I should do at this
point?
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Can someone please point me in the right direction?
tia,
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Slink is libc6 (with support for libc5 available). 1.2.0 is libc5
(possibly some libc4, I forget). I'd recommend you either use ftp or
get a more recent CD. I also recommend you use the apt method with
dselect (which supports both ftp and http).
Bob
On Tue, Jul 27, 1999 at 12:43:25AM
gzip to tar etc. ?
The later versions of tar support the -z option, so you don't need to
use piping:
tar xvzf filename.tar.gz
tar xvzf filename.tgz
both work.
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I'd recommend moving /usr/lib, since it is the largest other than
/usr/local, which you already have on a separate partition. Possibly
/usr/share would be a good choice, as I think it will grow substantially
when the FHS is fully adopted.
Bob
On Tue, Jul 27, 1999 at 09:57:51AM +,
n spite of this, Debian has many more packages.
hth,
Bob
On Thu, Jul 29, 1999 at 07:21:30PM -0400, Steve Stancliff wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I use Debian at home. At work we are gradually switching from Windows to
> Linux,
> and a redhat
> system (6 machines) has been running for
tried connecting with netscape.com by ftp, and was refused. At this
> point I refer you to my previous e-mail.
>
Use ftp.netscape.com instead.
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> Yes, you need libc5. You can get it from the oldlibs/ directory. It won't
> bugger
> ya' up. you may
> as well get xpm4.7 while you're there. Start from there and see if that
> takes care
> of the rest of the
> problems.
While you're at it, als
and has 50% compression, the untarred archive
would be 30 MB. 15 + 30 = 45; 45 > 40
If you have a lot of space on some other partition, create a directory
there, mv the archive to that directory, rm -rf /tmp, and symlink it to
the larger space.
>
> P.S. Does netscape require X11?
Yes
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xkeycaps will let you redifine any of the keys.
Bob
On Sun, Aug 01, 1999 at 03:39:17PM -0700, Oz Dror wrote:
> On xterm I have to type crtl-h to generate the backspace character
>
> the backspace character defaults to the delete character
>
> how can I change this default.
&
y the way.
Bob
On Mon, Aug 02, 1999 at 09:36:51PM +0800, Liu Chung Him wrote:
> Dear All,
>
> Is there anyone know where to download pine ? I cannot find this in my
> archive.
>
> Thank you very much !
>
> Wilson
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installed. The new version of makedev should be
available in tomorrow's update (or check #debian on irc for where you
can get it).
Bob
On Tue, Aug 03, 1999 at 03:09:10AM -, Pollywog wrote:
> I am getting the following error when I do 'apt-get upgrade':
>
> Err
>
ks in this case to kill X. Otherwise
navigator has been pretty stable for me, unlike some others.
Bob
On Tue, Aug 03, 1999 at 09:06:32AM -, Wim Kerkhoff wrote:
> I am using Netscape glibc 4.61 right now, quite unstable (window closing
> stuff). I have the lastests gnome using a
Are you trying to install a hamm package on a bo system?
Bob
On Tue, 28 Jul 1998, Mikhali Mifsud wrote:
>
>
> If I want pop access I (think) I have to install qpoper. When I try
> and install it it complains libc6 and libgdbmg1 is not installed. I
> checked stable/binary b
m and the
instructions in the URLs mentioned above give three different methods of
accomplishing the upgrade with minimal risk.
Bob
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50 pages) that I went back to my HP DJ520 (which is
somewhat better, but still not great in that respect).
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libc5 to libc6 transition has been the biggest obstacle here.
On Thu, 30 Jul 1998, Mario Filipe wrote:
>
> On 22-Jul-98 Bob Nielsen wrote:
> > 3. Install apt and run 'apt-get dist-upgrade'. The bo version of apt may
> > be found at
Has anyone made a Debian package of lynx with encryption (weak or strong)?
I don't see anything like this on us or non-us mirrors.
Bob
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kernel to 2.0.34 or 2.0.35.
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available, so have I
stumbled onto a glibc compatibility problem there? (I ask because I used the
binaries from that site for a long time in bo with no problems.)
TIA, as usual, for any light shed on these matters. At least we're not talking
about the dress.
gt;
> Note: order here is important. Package files are scanned in order so
> later distributions will override earlier ones.
>
> So put stable before unstable.
>
> Enter space seperated list of distributions to get
> [hamm/hamm]:
dists/stable
>
> Ente
use it otherwise,
you will have to purchase it from either StarDivision or Caldera.
I've tried both. IMHO, the display is a bit better with version 3.0
(however I prefer WordPerfect, which is $$).
Bob
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I have a mixed hamm/slink system which works fine with 2.0.35. I have
tried running 2.1.112 and 2.1.114 and can't get pppd to start. Typing (as
root) '/etc/init.d/ppp start' doesn't give any error message, but it
doesn't run. Is there something different required for
Oh dear. I see I replied to Ed only, and missed sending a copy to the list.
>>>>> Forwarded message from Bob Bernstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Hi Ed!
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> There's a warning in the message box under dselect for Nedit that
> points
in order to compile a new kernel. You can get this as a
Debian package if you wish. Also you should consider using kernel-package
which will compile the kernel and create a kernel-image package which you
can then install.
You will still need to us ipfwadm (in the netbase Debian package).
B
under
> dselect?
kernel-source is in devel (2.0.33, 2.0.34 and 2.0.35 are available). You
will need dpkg-ftp, but I don't think you need dpkg-perl. Adding the apt
package from slink will give you the option of the apt method as well,
which can get packages by either ft
>
> you'll find it at:
>
> ftp.windowmaker.org/pub/beta/compiled/linux/debs/
Also, wmaker_0.17.5-2 is in slink
Bob
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roblem
> (it doesn't work).
>
It looks to me like a syntax error. Try changing your resolv.conf from
this:
domain.tht.net
nameserver = 209.47.145.2
nameserver = 209.47.145.3
to this:
domain tht.net
nameserver 209.47.145.2
nameserver 209.47.145.3
Bob
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better, however--no errors with
ghostscript).
Hopefully they'll come out with Quattro Pro one of these days.
Bob
On Fri, 7 Aug 1998, Joey Hess wrote:
> The one thing this doesn't mention is it hasa time limit and then it
> expires. Just to save some people a 30mb download...
&g
vmlinuz) file
somewhere on the DOS partition. Here's what I have (I don't normally use
loadlin, but it is quicker than rebooting after I have used DOS or Win95):
d:\loadlin\loadlin d:\loadlin\bzimage root=/dev/hda6 ro
Bob
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I had a similar problem (only in netscape). I installed xkeycaps and
defined backspace there, which fixed it.
Bob
On Fri, 7 Aug 1998, Matthew Myers wrote:
> I am having trouble with my backspace key in X. It acts as the delete key
> rather than the backspace, deleting characters aft
are installed,
you should probably just delete them unless the new versions puts them in
the same place, in which case they will be overwritten and you won't need
to do anything.
Bob
On Sat, 8 Aug 1998, Keith wrote:
> I am downloading the strong encrypted Communicator, I was wondering
am concerned that
it might not work, based on this boot hang.
Any thoughts or theories that might help would be appreciated.
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his should NOT be done
to binary (data) files since it will destroy the structure expectd by
whatever probram made the file. If you do not have the two utilities
I can supply you with some alternatives (assuming you have sed and tr
available).
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b may also need fixing. Is there anything else that needs changing?
Thanks again,
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> -Original Message-
> From: Nathan E Norman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, August 17, 1998 8:55 AM
> To: Bob McGowan
ils may or may not be useful but the over all
discussion
is very good.
Hope this helps ;-)
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edure will work. As to "appropriate" things, nothing other
than trying to avoid directory structures with lots of symlinks comes
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> -Original Message-
> From: Mike Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Fr
ay, I've lost the list's most recent mail, so a thousand pardons if I'm
asking something that's just been dealt with!
Bob Bernstein at Esmond, R.I.
n _my_ system.
That leaves the pesky 'questionable operand' message, and the rdate
problem, for now.
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ent brain tumor slowly robbing me of
what little sanity I have left!
Bob Bernstein at Esmond, R.I.
AUTOFW' option. Does anybody have a kernel config
for 2.0.34 that produces a working ip masq?
Bob Bernstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Has anyone ever seen the Subject: line's message before?
>
> I just compiled 2.0.34 to get ip masqing going, and I appear in the proce
e of is that I've entered the policy
rules correctly!
-D 0.0.0.0 *without* the '/0' on the end won't work no matter how much hair
I tear out!
I need a vacation. Mebbe go to the Vinyard and talk to Bill about my
'private problems', huh?
Thanks again,
Bob Bernstein at Esmond, R.I.
r of the Deb nedit package, who
very graciously and promptly helped me out with this same problem
recently. Due to my precocious Altzheimers, and recent hard drive demise,
I can't retreive the info you need.
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Bob Bernstein at Esmond, R.I.
software clock.
If your hardware clock is going off by hours, I would tend to
suspect the hardware clock itself (the chip or its power supply).
Then you would want to use the hardware clock to periodically update
your system software clock.
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Bob McGowan
i'm: bob dot mcgowan at artecon dot com
tput.
I see I have this xntp thing on this machine, so I ran /etc/init.d/xntp3
stop and sure enough it's stopped, at least according to ps -aux.
As you can see from the time stamp on this message, I really to set the
clock on this thing!
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Bob Bernstein at Esmond, R.I.
On Fri, 28 Aug 1998, Akop Pogosian wrote:
> If anyone knows how to fix this little problem, please let me know.
The package that needs upgrading is lesstifg. I found that
lesstifg_0.85.3-1.deb did the trick.
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Bob Bernstein at Esmond, R.I.
chine, so I ran /etc/init.d/xntp3
stop and sure enough it's stopped, at least according to ps -aux.
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Bob Bernstein at Esmond, R.I.
I'm no expert on this, but I recall that rdate and ntp use different
formats.
Perhaps the servers you are trying only support NTP. You might try
another one, such as 'rdate time.nist.gov'.
On Sat, 29 Aug 1998, Bob Bernstein wrote:
>
> Here's what I get every ti
Bingo!
On Sat, 29 Aug 1998, Bob Nielsen wrote:
> I'm no expert on this, but I recall that rdate and ntp use different
> formats.
I've never taken the time, obviously, to look into it. Running bo I was
happy to just use 'rdate tycho.usno.navy.mil'. That doesn'
On Sat, 29 Aug 1998, Bob Bernstein wrote:
> Bingo!
>
> On Sat, 29 Aug 1998, Bob Nielsen wrote:
>
> > I'm no expert on this, but I recall that rdate and ntp use different
> > formats.
>
> I've never taken the time, obviously, to look into it. Run
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