Re: Things I don't touch with a 3.048m barge pole: USB storage (Was Re: Unidentified subject!)

Hello, On Fri, Feb 09, 2024 at 12:23:45AM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > On 08/02/2024 22:36, Andy Smith wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 07, 2024 at 03:30:29PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > > > [629241.074187] scsi host37: usb-storage 1-2:1.0 > > > > USB storage is for phones an

Re: Things I don't touch with a 3.048m barge pole: USB storage (Was Re: Unidentified subject!)

Hello, On Thu, Feb 08, 2024 at 05:40:54PM +0100, Ralph Aichinger wrote: > On Thu, 2024-02-08 at 15:36 +0000, Andy Smith wrote: > > I learned not to go there a long time ago and have seen plenty of > > reminders along the way from others' misfortunes to not ever go > > th

Re: Things I don't touch with a 3.048m barge pole: USB storage (Was Re: Unidentified subject!)

Hello, On Thu, Feb 08, 2024 at 02:20:59PM -0500, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > On Thu, Feb 8, 2024 at 11:57 AM Ralph Aichinger wrote: > > How does a breaking USB disk differ from a breaking SATA disk? > > I may be mistaken, but I believe AS is talking about USB thumb drives, > SDcards and the like. I

Re: Things I don't touch with a 3.048m barge pole: USB storage (Was Re: Unidentified subject!)

On Thu, Feb 08, 2024 at 08:43:17PM +, Andy Smith wrote: > I really do mean all forms of USB that come over a USB port. That line was meant to read I really do mean all forms of storage that come over a USB port. Thanks, Andy -- https://bitfolk.com/ -- No-nonsense VPS hosting

Re: Things I don't touch with a 3.048m barge pole: USB storage (Was Re: Unidentified subject!)

On Thu, Feb 08, 2024 at 03:56:19PM -0500, Gremlin wrote: > On 2/8/24 15:43, Andy Smith wrote: > > I wouldn't have much issue with taking a USB drive out of its caddy > > to get the SATA drive from inside, except that it would have to be > > an amazingly good deal to

Re: Things I don't touch with a 3.048m barge pole: USB storage (Was Re: Unidentified subject!)

Hello, On Thu, Feb 08, 2024 at 04:00:01PM -0500, Gremlin wrote: > I have been using USB attached HDDs and SSDs for 10 years now and > have never had one unexpectedly go off line. Your postings > suggest you don't know what your talking about. Okay then. Despite this uncharitable comment, I do st

Re: Things I don't touch with a 3.048m barge pole: USB storage (Was Re: Unidentified subject!)

Hello, On Thu, Feb 08, 2024 at 04:22:49PM -0500, Gremlin wrote: > On Thu, Feb 08, 2024 at 08:43:17PM +0000, Andy Smith wrote: > > I really do mean all forms of USB that come over a USB port. > > That line was meant to read > > I really do mean all forms of storage that

Re: differences between hwclock <-> date due to time zone issues? ...

Hello, On Thu, Mar 23, 2023 at 09:41:40PM +, Albretch Mueller wrote: > I am using this (yes, visually cr@ppy ;-)) code snippet to set back > the time 5 hours. hwclock tells me it worked fine but the terminal > windows opened before and after running hwclock still give me the > "old" time sett

What's the correct procedure for replacing a DKMS module when it's upstreamed?

Hi, I have a Debian testing system with a Realtek 8852be wireless card. As the kernel in Debian testing does not currently support this hardware, I have to build the kernel driver as an external DKMS module from: https://github.com/lwfinger/rtw89 Specifically that is the rtw_8852be module.

Re: What's the correct procedure for replacing a DKMS module when it's upstreamed?

On Sun, Mar 26, 2023 at 04:51:25AM +, Andy Smith wrote: > I have to build the kernel driver as an external DKMS > module from: > > https://github.com/lwfinger/rtw89 > > Specifically that is the rtw_8852be module. > > That works fine, but it seems that this dr

Re: What's the correct procedure for replacing a DKMS module when it's upstreamed?

Hi Kushal, On Sun, Mar 26, 2023 at 08:13:33PM -0700, Kushal Kumaran wrote: > If you installed a -dkms package to get the kernel module (there are > several such packages in the debian repositories), Yep, that's what I did. The git repository I linked to builds an rt89-dkms .deb package. > uninst

Re: Which takes priority, ipv4, or ipv6?

On Mon, Mar 27, 2023 at 12:48:13PM +0100, Richmond wrote: > So how is the preference determined? It seems to be determined by the > DNS, but why or how do I tell for example with host -v? I'm not adding anything new here, only pulling together what has already been said in several different replie

Re: Is perl still the No.1 language for sysadmin?

Hello, On Sun, Apr 02, 2023 at 11:36:16PM +0200, Oliver Schoede wrote: > I don't see much of a reason for learning Perl today unless you're > a die-hard hobbyist with near infinite amount of time and an > undying penchant for obsolete technology. Perl continues to get new releases and new feature

Re: Is perl still the No.1 language for sysadmin?

Hello, On Sun, Apr 02, 2023 at 04:59:15PM +0800, cor...@free.fr wrote: > I saw many commands in /bin and /usr/bin are written by perl. > is perl still the first choice for sysadmin on linux? I don't accept the premise that it ever was the first choice, and I say that as someone who likes Perl and

Re: Is perl still the No.1 language for sysadmin?

Hello, On Mon, Apr 03, 2023 at 05:41:14AM +0200, Emanuel Berg wrote: > Andy Smith wrote: > > > For example, even if some AI assistant is written in Python, > > and even if you can ask it to spit out a device driver for > > the Linux kernel that does X and Y with Z hardwa

Re: Is perl still the No.1 language for sysadmin?

Hello, On Mon, Apr 03, 2023 at 12:23:19PM +0800, cor...@free.fr wrote: > I am just not sure, why perl6 is named to raku? Because Perl 5 still exists and is still seeing new releases, and what is now Raku is a completely different language, so there is no prospect of Perl 5 ceasing to be developed

Re: Is perl still the No.1 language for sysadmin?

Hello, On Tue, Apr 04, 2023 at 05:35:04AM +0200, local10 wrote: > Apr 4, 2023, 00:16 by in...@dataswamp.org: > > Andy Smith wrote: > > > >> The argument being responded to is roughly that "a popular > >> AI coding assistant is written in Python, and Pyt

Re: my immature thoughts on perl

Hello, On Tue, Apr 04, 2023 at 10:35:39AM +0800, cor...@free.fr wrote: > How do you think of it? I think you should use Ruby if you like Ruby better! Honestly, we aren't the "I'd Like An Argument Please" sketch; if we were then you'd have to be paying. As it stands I am only doing this in my spa

Re: questions about cron.daily

Hello, On Thu, Apr 06, 2023 at 07:33:26PM +0800, cor...@free.fr wrote: > For scripts put under /etc/cron.daily, which special time will they be > implemented? Greg already showed you how to check this on your own systems. If you need something to run daily but at a specific time, consider instea

Re: Is perl still the No.1 language for sysadmin?

Hello, On Mon, Apr 03, 2023 at 08:20:36PM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > 1.00 is best, higher numbers indicate wastefulness. > > C has 1.00 for energy consumption and for processing time. > For memory needs it's at rank 3 with 1.17. > Perl has 79.58 for energy (rank 27 of 27), 65.79 for time (ran

Re: apt temporary failure resolving deb.debian.org

Hi Badli, On Sun, Apr 09, 2023 at 07:59:32AM +, Badli Al Rashid wrote: > I got a temporary failure resolving deb.debian.org and > www.debian.org since last week thursday. I can resolve other sites > like www.kernel.org and others. > > When I switch to other DNS servers I can resolve www.debia

Re: how to change default nameserver?

Hello, On Mon, Apr 10, 2023 at 12:05:06PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > My way doesn't need that. But you've made it your lifes work to > not understand how my way Just Works. Just for the benefit of any inexperienced people who may read this in future: - As pointed out already, Gene's resolv.con

Re: https://: vs. https://:.

Hello, On Mon, Apr 10, 2023 at 12:13:15PM -0700, pe...@easthope.ca wrote: > As expected, login at https://hornby.islandhosting.com:2096 and at > https://mail.easthope.ca:2096 appear equivalent. > > But for URL https://158.69.159.172:2096 Firefox warns, What told you to use the URL with the IP ad

Re: how to change default nameserver?

Hello, On Tue, Apr 11, 2023 at 12:04:24AM +0200, zithro wrote: > So, I got curious about his claim Well you can't say you haven't been warned. This rabbit hole goes very deep and the bottom will not contain the answers you seek! Cheers, Andy -- https://bitfolk.com/ -- No-nonsense VPS hosting

Re: Apt sources.list

On Sat, Apr 15, 2023 at 07:21:17PM +0100, Alain D D Williams wrote: > On Sat, Apr 15, 2023 at 11:00:52AM -0400, pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote: > > > Okay. Let's open this can of worms. The ONLY reason https is used on > > most sites is because Google *mandated* it years ago. ("Mandate" means > > w

Re: Am I infected with a rootkit?

Hello, On Tue, Apr 18, 2023 at 06:22:16PM +0200, Michel Verdier wrote: > I recently learned the ctrl-r key which launch a regex search in > history. It's more powerful than ! as it search the full > lines so not only commands but also parameters. Now step in to the late 2010s and look into "fzf"

Re: sha256sum --text generating blank spaces and hyphens?

Hello, On Wed, Apr 26, 2023 at 07:41:56AM +, Albretch Mueller wrote: > _SHA256=$(printf '%s' "${_TXT}" | sha256sum --text ) > echo "// __ \$_SHA256: |${_SHA256}|" […] > // __ $_SHA256: > |7d5895cb24ab49692a8ad495e036074fec8e61b22040544f02a9b69c926dbdeb -| > > I am trying to avoid funk

Re: sha256sum --text generating blank spaces and hyphens?

Hello, On Wed, Apr 26, 2023 at 08:30:01PM +, Albretch Mueller wrote: > On 4/26/23, Dan Ritter wrote: > > The only characters used in the sha256 hash itself are [a-f] and > > [0-9] > > Yes, I knew that; that is why I could not understand why sha256sum > was being "courteous" to me. The man

Re: Impossible to change ownership of a file to user when user is UID 0

Hello, On Mon, May 01, 2023 at 04:37:34PM +0200, Pierre Willaime wrote: > After some investigations, it is most likely a permission issue > > May 1 15:32:42 vm sshd[131848]: debug1: trying public key file > /home/user/.ssh/authorized_keys > May 1 15:32:42 vm sshd[131848]: debug1: fd 5 clearing

Re: processing /etc/sysctl.d

Hello, On Wed, May 03, 2023 at 07:50:30PM -0400, Lee wrote: > I'm at a loss for how to figure out why my settings aren't taking effect. > > $ head /etc/sysctl.d/local.conf […] > # accept router advertisements > net/ipv6/conf/enp1s0/accept_ra = 1 Is it possible that enp1s0 didn't yet exist at t

Re: processing /etc/sysctl.d

Hello, On Thu, May 04, 2023 at 08:43:52AM +0200, Michel Verdier wrote: > Yes setting parameter on interface is better done in > /etc/network/interfaces or /etc/network/interfaces.d/* > which is used when the interface is configured There's definitely race conditions between creation of interface

Re: processing /etc/sysctl.d

Hello, On Thu, May 04, 2023 at 12:56:50PM -0400, Lee wrote: > Is there a way to get systemd to do list of commands in > /etc/sysctl.d/something.conf > and set of commands in /etc/sysctl.d/somethingElse.conf _after_ > all the interfaces come up? I think your NetworkManager is changing this sysct

Re: relevance of packages in repositories

Hello, On Sun, May 07, 2023 at 01:14:57PM +0300, Дмитрий wrote: > in order to get the current version [of some random software I > never heard of], you need to drag something like Homebrew, it > really pisses you off and pushes you away from using the > distribution I heard that there is just one

Re: relevance of packages in repositories

Hello, On Tue, May 09, 2023 at 05:40:18AM +0200, zithro wrote: > In short, zero time taken. For a comparatively large response. Almost as if that was their goal (trolling)! Cheers, Andy -- https://bitfolk.com/ -- No-nonsense VPS hosting > I'd be interested to hear any (even two word) reviews

Re: Stable and testing together?

Hello, On Sat, May 13, 2023 at 11:28:24AM +0200, Hans wrote: > Is there any reason, why not using oldstable, stable and testing together? While some maintainers do commit to test and support their packages from "testing" on "stable", the usual case is that this has never been tested and is not su

Re: how to find out regdomain/country of wifi network

Hello, On Sun, May 14, 2023 at 06:48:59AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > So no, it doesn't look dead to me. It (Linux ifconfig) exists and is still installable but will not be getting any new features. It also displays incorrect information for some features it does not understand. So the argu

Re: how to find out regdomain/country of wifi network

Hello, On Sat, May 13, 2023 at 06:18:57PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > On 5/13/23 15:40, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > : > > The ip command is the future of network config commands. ifconfig > > has been officially deprecated for the ip suite, s

Re: shell script run in backend

Hello, On Sun, May 14, 2023 at 05:04:50PM +0800, Tom Reed wrote: > I know convert it to a perl script and run it under App::Daemon for > background jobs. Having it as a systemd service is a much cleaner solution, whether it is shell or Perl or any other language. The main point of the App::Daemo

Re: iptables reject with TCP RST

Hi, On Sun, May 14, 2023 at 08:14:04AM +0800, Tom Reed wrote: > I have these iptables rules which reject tcp connections with tcp rst. First question, why are you using iptables instead of nft? On a new Debian install you actually are using nftables with an iptables compat layer, but a new instal

Re: how to find out regdomain/country of wifi network

Hello, On Sun, May 14, 2023 at 01:41:40PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > On 5/14/23 12:09, Andy Smith wrote: > > the arguments for its continued usage are extremely tenuous and > > basically boil down to, "it's always worked for me!" Which is > > fine, but does l

Re: how to find out regdomain/country of wifi network

Hello, On Sun, May 14, 2023 at 08:08:06PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > I think the problem here is that the user dreamt up a feature ifconfig > has never had. At least not the linux ifconfig. Yes, it seems their use of FreeBSD ifconfig led them to believe that ifconfig would work the same on

Gene's avahi bogeyman is not real (Was Re: how to find out regdomain/country of wifi network)

Dear debian-user archives, On Sun, May 14, 2023 at 02:42:05PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > I've literally spent a frigging week trying to get iproute to > over-ride the broken 169.xx.xx.xx primary route that earlier > avahi's insisted on putting into a network config, that is why to > this day the

Re: iptables reject with TCP RST

Hello, On Mon, May 15, 2023 at 09:10:24AM +0800, Tom Reed wrote: > If I clean iptables in the destination host, this telnet will get success > at once. > > Any hints? Why have you not used "iptables -vL" to show the packet counts of each rule so you can see which rules the packets match? They ar

Re: iptables reject with TCP RST

Hello, On Mon, May 15, 2023 at 09:40:10AM +0800, Tom Reed wrote: > Yes after each telnet from client host, the count was increased. > > 0 0 REJECT tcp -- anyany anywhere > anywhere tcp dpt:imaps reject-with tcp-reset > 0 0 REJECT tcp --

Re: how to find out regdomain/country of wifi network

Hello, On Mon, May 15, 2023 at 04:38:29PM +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2023-05-15 08:36:41 -0500, David Wright wrote: > > (Just guessing: if you installed it, you need it, and better > > hang on to it.) > > Wrong. It got installed automatically. I suppose that this is because > this was lik

Re: Debian 9 stretch - ebtables package

Hi, On Mon, May 15, 2023 at 08:11:50PM +0530, amit agari wrote: > Has ebtables package been removed from Debian 9 stretch distribution? stretch is EOL so the entire distribution has been "removed" to archive.debian.org. But after putting archive.debian.org in your /etc/apt/sources.list you will c

Re: how to find out regdomain/country of wifi network

Hello, On Mon, May 15, 2023 at 05:15:58PM +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2023-05-15 17:13:31 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > No, aptitude removes automatically installed packages for which > > there are no longer any dependencies. > > And there's also "apt autoremove", which I also use. The

Re: netmask question

Hello, On Mon, May 22, 2023 at 08:26:47PM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: > Tom Reed wrote: > > If I know the network addr: 192.168.1.0 > > And know the broadcast addr: 192.168.1.255 > > Then I should have the possibility to cal the netmask addr: 255.255.255.0 > > > > Isn't it? > > No. What's the net

Re: netmask question

Hello, On Fri, May 26, 2023 at 09:07:23PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sat, May 27, 2023 at 12:59:59AM +0000, Andy Smith wrote: > > On Mon, May 22, 2023 at 08:26:47PM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: > > > No. What's the netmask if you have: > > > > >

Re: A hypervisor for a headless server?

Hello, On Fri, Jun 02, 2023 at 02:39:43AM +, Victor Sudakov wrote: > Please don't just say "kvm". I've tried installing different > combinations of "qemu-kvm", "virt-manager" etc and they all depend on > dozens of GUI tools. "kvm" is the generally accepted answer. None of the GUI tools are ne

Re: A hypervisor for a headless server?

Hello, On Fri, Jun 02, 2023 at 03:33:09AM +, Victor Sudakov wrote: > So what's the package name for just "kvm" without the GUI tools? Because For someone that wants to run a hypervisor in a non-newbie manner I'm afraid you don't seem to be that willing to do any of your own research. The pac

Re: A hypervisor for a headless server?

Hi Victor, On Fri, Jun 02, 2023 at 07:12:14AM +, Victor Sudakov wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 02, 2023 at 03:33:09AM +, Victor Sudakov wrote: > > > So what's the package name for just "kvm" without the GUI tools? Because > > > > For someone that wants to run a hypervisor in a non-newbie manner >

Re: A hypervisor for a headless server?

any X-Window or desktop environment in its entire life, > > > tries to install qemu-system-gui, adwaita-icon-theme, libgtk-3-common > > > and a lot of similar stuff. > > > > Even with `--no-install-recommends`? > > qemu-system-x86 package _recommends_ qemu-syste

Re: A hypervisor for a headless server?

Hello, On Fri, Jun 02, 2023 at 09:49:39AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > FWIW, I do install with no-recommends in general: > > tomas@trotzki:~$ cat /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/95no-recommends > APT::Install-Recommends no; > > "Not supported" seemed a bit strong to me: what does mean "not > suppor

Re: PTR record for mail server

Hi, On Fri, Jun 02, 2023 at 12:46:04PM +0100, Andrew Wood wrote: > Can I clarify my understanding of an issue with a Debian Postfix server > please. We have a mail server which is a VPS running Debian hosted by OVH. > Its hostname is of the form vps-xyz.vps.ovh.net the PTR for the IP resolves > to

Re: Debian home page -> Download link broken:

Hi, On Sun, Jun 11, 2023 at 02:01:34PM -0400, Default User wrote: > https://wiki.debian.org/DebianUpgrade could use a tune-up, particularly > the part about editing /etc/apt/sources.list, which IMHO could be > worded a little more clearly. It is a wiki, so you can do that. If you can articulat

Re: Apache logs and systemd

Hi Tom, On Thu, Jun 15, 2023 at 01:52:10PM -0500, Tom Browder wrote: > Maybe it's related to the rsyslog changes ? apache by default does not use a syslog for logging though, it writes logfiles itself directly. On a normal Debian distribution these are rotated by the logrotate package. So any am

Re: Apache logs and systemd

Hello, On Fri, Jun 16, 2023 at 12:38:40PM -0500, Tom Browder wrote: > I should have mentioned in OP the logs are in a dir under my own apache > installation dir, and they are text files. I’ll try to get “logrotate” to > take them over. It should happen by default. Normally logrotate is called by

Why are there multiple ways to do things in Debian? (Was Re: package managers problem)

Hello, On Fri, Jun 16, 2023 at 11:03:59PM -0400, pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote: > Why isn't there a ONE WAY for packages to be managed? Because of the fundamental philosophies that underpin how Debian is developed. Debian is not the sort of place where a top-down authority declares that there is

Re: Why are there multiple ways to do things in Debian? (Was Re: package managers problem)

Hello, On Sat, Jun 17, 2023 at 08:55:24AM -0400, pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote: > Debian's capable of deciding that systemd is installed by default, > etc, even if such decisions occur after monumental > discussions/arguments. It took literally years and is still hotly revisited from time to time

Re: package managers problem

Hello, On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 10:57:30AM -0400, Sarunas Burdulis wrote: > On 6/20/23 10:51, gene heskett wrote: > > Easy: > > gene@coyote:~/Pictures$ sudo synaptic > > [sudo] password for gene: > > Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 keyUnable to init server: Could not connect: > > Connection refused > >

Re: package managers problem

Hello, On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 04:56:39PM -0400, pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote: > On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 20:39:35 + > Andy Smith wrote: > > Please do not encourage Gene's fetish of running GUI apps as root. > > Plenty of people have been wasting their time trying to tell

Re: package managers problem

Hi Gene, On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 05:44:10PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > > Please do not encourage Gene's fetish of running GUI apps as root. […] > Andy, if you aren't behind dd-wrt for your home network, don't pretend to > tell me what I can't do I think your contributions to this list do a gr

Re: package managers problem

Hello Gene, On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 06:01:00PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > Alright then the question is, is policykit the solution, or do we > install it, then spend two weeks and wreck 7 installs configuring > it to work? In other words, get to the specifics or find a new horse. I think it's al

Re: package managers problem

On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 02:23:31AM -0400, Maurice Heskett wrote: > my last msg indicated I was going to logout and back in. Which I > tried to do, but with a root pw set, or something else, IDK and > don't at this point care because the only damned way I can login > is as root!!

Re: package managers problem

Hello, On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 12:57:41PM +0100, Joe wrote: > On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 17:34:45 -0400 > gene heskett wrote: > > My fav editor, geany is also > > dead for roots use for exactly he same reason, but runs just fine as > > me. So there is a common problem. > > Well, you could do it the ri

Re: package managers problem

Hello, On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 09:23:41AM -0400, Maurice Heskett wrote: > On 6/21/23 08:33, Andy Smith wrote: > > I'm sure there are other advanced editors that can do the same. > > Maybe geany can; I'm not familiar with it. > You are missing out on one of linux

Re: Code of conduct reminder.

Hello, On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 05:52:20PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 10:18:18AM -0400, David Peacock wrote: > > I'm seeing a shocking and disappointing amount of disrespect and vulgarity > > of late from several parties. If there is no active moderation possible, > >

Re: Code of conduct reminder.

Hello, On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 06:52:57PM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > Could we please finish the package managers thread at this point? Do you include in that the sub-thread of that where the OP is (still) attempting to get Synaptic to work, and also the sub-threads this generates as the OP

Re: package managers problem

Hello, On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 01:53:28PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > Oh, and synaptic asks for a pw, I give it mine, and it runs just fine. Great, so hopefully you are now prepared to accept that all the things about Synaptic not working under Wayland were a huge blind alley. We still don't kn

Re: package managers problem

Hello, On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 03:50:31PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > On 6/20/23 18:23, Andy Smith wrote: > > I think it's already been demonstrated in this thread that the > > desktop launcher for Synaptic calls policykit to start it, so if as > > you claim you do a s

Re: package managers problem

Hi David, On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 04:53:06PM +0100, David Wright wrote: > On Wed 21 Jun 2023 at 12:31:20 (+), Andy Smith wrote: > > feature rich editors like vim and emacs can easily write to files > > through sudo or sftp, thus enabling seamless editing of files as > >

Desktop environments stealing app key shortcuts (Was Re: package managers problem)

Hello, On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 04:14:07PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > On 6/21/23 13:51, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote: > > On Wednesday 21 June 2023 08:54:46 am Maurice Heskett wrote: > > > it pisses me off that F10 has been stolen by the window > > > managers to bring up a useless menu, making me f

Re: OT: Forwarding and top posting (was: Re: OT: Pedantic, yet wrong)

Hello, On Thu, Jun 22, 2023 at 04:24:47PM -0700, Manphiz wrote: > Personally I don't have a strong preference either way, but would like > to hear more opinions on this. The complaint about a top-posted forwarded message just because it had a contextual hint at the top, seemed excessive to me. I

Re: OT: Pedantic, yet wrong

Hello, On Fri, Jun 23, 2023 at 10:06:04AM +, Ottavio Caruso wrote: > I though it would have been easier to read if I had forwarded it. > In hindsight, I could have just copied it over. It seemed fine the way it was. The only reason why I didn't answer is that I don't know anything about remov

Re: Hddtemp in Bookworm

Hi Gareth, On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 11:01:56PM +0100, Gareth Evans wrote: > seems like a lot of effort to discover something that should > (shouldn't it?) be documented somewhere in relation to Bookworm? > I couldn't find anything in the release notes except some > "notable" obsolete packages at s5

Re: php 7.4 and bookworm

Hi, On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 04:46:24AM -0400, John Covici wrote: > Hi. So, I want to upgrade to bookworm, but I have an application > which needs php 7.4 and I guess they are not yet ready to fix. So, > how can I keep that version, even if its just for that app? In <43ff5524-4d41-b570-c592-69af

Re: Issue with Xen PCI passthrough ("swiotlb buffer is full") after Debian Dom0 kernel update to 5.10.178-3 and later

Hi Paul, On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 09:40:52PM +0200, Paul Leiber wrote: > In the meantime, I have upgraded Dom0 to Debian Bookworm with > linux-image-amd64 6.1.27-1 and Xen 4.17. The issue persists, seemingly > unchanged. > > In DomU dmesg, there are several "swiotlb buffer is full" entries while >

Re: Issue with Xen PCI passthrough ("swiotlb buffer is full") after Debian Dom0 kernel update to 5.10.178-3 and later

Hi Paul, On Thu, Jun 29, 2023 at 06:27:02PM +0200, Paul Leiber wrote: > Just to state the obvious, what's bothering me is that my setup was working > with kernel 5.10.0-21 and that it stopped working with kernel 5.10.178-3. So > it seems that somewhere inbetween, changes have been introduced that

Re: How do I remotely access the computer in the next room?

Hi, On Mon, Jul 03, 2023 at 12:17:36AM +0100, Alain D D Williams wrote: > On Sun, Jul 02, 2023 at 06:49:07PM -0400, hobie of RMN wrote: > > Chiefly I'm looking for the most convenient way to keep an eye > > on his incoming e-mail for him. Mostly I use Mutt; he uses > > claws-mail exclusively, so

Re: Bye Bye [preauth]

Hi, On Wed, Jul 05, 2023 at 05:24:27AM +, Vito.V wrote: > When I run logwatch Why do I get ? Bye Bye [preauth] : 2484 Times ? It's a particular SSH app/library that disconnects with that string. The client can put its own message there. > there are around 3000 connections to SSH per day. Is

Re: Corrupt root filesystem

Hi Mick, On Fri, Jul 07, 2023 at 04:01:23PM +0100, Mick Ab wrote: > Twice, when trying to reboot my PC, I have had error messages which > indicate the root file system is corrupted and needs the manual use of fsck > to fix the root file system before a reboot can be done. > > Any thoughts please

Re: Corrupt root filesystem

Hi Mick, On Fri, Jul 07, 2023 at 06:28:55PM +0100, Mick Ab wrote: > Sorry, I should have said that fsck was manually run on the root > file system (as advised by the error message) each time that the > error occurred. On both occasions, the system was rebooted okay. If you're actually interested

Re: Synaptic Problem

Hi Stephen, On Fri, Jul 07, 2023 at 03:17:57PM -0400, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: > I have just installed Bookworm without any problems. > > However, synaptic has developed a problem: > > Google has not found a solution that works. > > I would appreciate suggstions. My main suggestion is that you

Re: why is os-prober disabled by default

Hi, On Fri, Jul 14, 2023 at 08:32:41PM +0200, digitalmailing wrote: > I find this very annoying and inconvenient to change > [GRUB_DISABLE_OS_PROBER] back again after some updates. Others have explained the "why". To stop your changes being overwritten you can re-enable it in a .cfg file in /etc/

Re: [OT] IBM, Oracle, SUSE: RHEL

Hi, On Sat, Jul 15, 2023 at 07:39:03PM -0300, riveravaldez wrote: > sorry for the noise, Then sorry too, but why did you make it? The chances that there will be any original comment in what is sure now to be an enormous thread is near-zero and I don't see what relevance it has to Debian users, on

Re: I reinstalled debian bullsee and still have the same messages andthis one too

Hello, On Sun, Jul 16, 2023 at 09:10:31AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > On 7/16/23 04:38, didier gaumet wrote: > > This error message could probably disappear if you install > > xdg-desktop-portal.service package. […] > What repo is this in, its a not found in an sudo apt install command. $ apt-

Re: How could a standalone python binary executable be made from a python script, to be run on other computers that don't have python installed?

Hi, On Thu, Jul 20, 2023 at 04:36:44PM +0530, Susmita/Rajib wrote: > My dear Illustrious leaders and senior List Maintainers of Debian Users ML, Is there some reason that you only want answers from "leaders" and "senior List Maintainers" as opposed to the vast majority of list subscribers, like y

Re: dpkg: error processing package mysql-client

Hello, On Thu, Jul 20, 2023 at 08:17:34PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Thu, Jul 20, 2023 at 05:55:12PM -0600, William Torrez Corea wrote: > > Setting up mysql-common (8.0.34-1debian11) ... > > This package did not come from Debian. […] > If your third-party MySQL packages are not working, y

Re: How could a standalone python binary executable be made from a python script, to be run on other computers that don't have python installed?

Hello, On Mon, Jul 24, 2023 at 05:27:28PM +0530, Susmita/Rajib wrote: > My first post of this thread is illustrative. You did indeed state that you only wanted guidance from "Illustrious leaders and senior List Maintainers of Debian Users ML" so I don't know why anyone is bothering to give you an

Re: apt upgrade in buster is confused

Hi, On Mon, Jul 24, 2023 at 01:35:49PM -0700, Scott Edwards wrote: > https://paste.debian.net/1286823/ > > I just want to upgrade to stable, but I'm stuck here buster is Debian 10. stable is Debian 12. If you are trying to upgrade buster to stable, you are making a mistake as you are not suppose

Re: General Questions

Hi, On Tue, Jul 25, 2023 at 09:18:10PM +0600, Source Code wrote: > I'm sorry, Nicolas George, if I offended you. I didn't want it. I'm new > here and don't know how to post my questions without disturbing anyone.i If there is a language barrier here. maybe posting questions on debian-russian will

Re: Debian 11 installer crashed and reboot (in Xen DomU)

Hi Elmar, On Thu, Jul 27, 2023 at 03:03:20AM +0200, Dr. Nagy Elemér Károly wrote: > Two years later, all Debian 11.0-12.1 installers still crash in Xen as DomU, > it is a known bug: > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=983357 > > In PV mode, /boot/grub/grub.cfg is the relevant conf

Re: Is it possible to downgrade openssl?

Hello, On Fri, Jul 28, 2023 at 04:14:30PM -0400, Patrick Wiseman wrote: > On Fri, Jul 28, 2023, 4:10 PM Brian wrote: > > On Fri 28 Jul 2023 at 16:04:10 -0400, Patrick Wiseman wrote: > > > any way to revert to an earlier version of OpenSSL? I'm on an up-to-date > > > bookworm system. > > > > Insta

Creality don't sound great (Was: Re: Is it possible to downgrade openssl?)

Hello, On Sun, Jul 30, 2023 at 08:11:38AM -0400, Patrick Wiseman wrote: > But Creality apparently disapproves of the hack and so has > disabled it in the latest firmware. So what I have learned from this thread is that there is a company called Creality which: - Supplies known-broken AppImages o

Re: chrome web browser worthless

Gene, On Wed, Aug 02, 2023 at 02:05:48PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > this is a blatent attack by chrome You've absolutely no evidence to suggest that, and other people have already pointed out they are unable to replicate your issues. Like almost every thread you start or derail here this is ove

Feeds aren't yet dead (Was: Re: perl module listgarden)

Hello, On Thu, Aug 03, 2023 at 03:07:47AM +, Russell L. Harris wrote: > For that matter, is RSS still in use? $ r2e list | wc -l 72 Cheers, Andy -- https://bitfolk.com/ -- No-nonsense VPS hosting

Re: debian image questions

Hi Bill, Your question is more suited to debian-user so I've redirected there. Please send replies there (I've set reply-to for that purpose also). On Wed, Aug 02, 2023 at 08:40:51PM -0400, Bill Miller wrote: > why cant i just install Debian from a digital cloud? i dont > understand why i need ph

Re: Feeds aren't yet dead (Was: Re: perl module listgarden)

Hi Russell, On Thu, Aug 03, 2023 at 06:23:15PM +, Russell L. Harris wrote: > On Thu, Aug 03, 2023 at 05:29:33PM +0000, Andy Smith wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 03, 2023 at 03:07:47AM +, Russell L. Harris wrote: > > > For that matter, is RSS still in use? > > >

Re: logging no longer standard?

Hello, On Sat, Aug 05, 2023 at 08:56:36AM -0400, Carl Fink wrote: > It is highly probable that I'm being grumpy because Debian changed > something that I was used to for decades, without my realizing it. …because you didn't read the release notes that are absolutely required reading to understand

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