Re: Who: Bookworm v. Trixie

On Sun, 30 Mar 2025 18:53:39 -0400 Timothy M Butterworth wrote: > > On trixie who (GNU coreutils 9.5) gives me a long list of logins, > > most of which predate the most recent reboot. "who -u", similarly. > > > > On my Trixie system `who --users` only provides a carriage return and > prints no

Re: Who: Bookworm v. Trixie

The whole utmp stuff is flaky, a best effort system that might give some resemblance to reality. All who does is read the database. It is up to all of the other systems that might write to it to do the correct thing with regards to adding and removing entries. man -s 5 utmp Goes into more detai

Re: Who: Bookworm v. Trixie

On Sun, Mar 30, 2025 at 6:25 PM Charles Curley < charlescur...@charlescurley.com> wrote: > On bookworm who (GNU coreutils 9.1) operates more or less as I have > expected it to operate for several decades: it prints current logins. > E.g.: > > charles@hawk:~$ who > charles tty7 2025-03-30

Who: Bookworm v. Trixie

On bookworm who (GNU coreutils 9.1) operates more or less as I have expected it to operate for several decades: it prints current logins. E.g.: charles@hawk:~$ who charles tty7 2025-03-30 11:31 (:0) charles pts/35 2025-03-27 20:13 (192.168.100.47) root pts/36 2025-03-27 2

Re: Failed unmounting disk mes. on every restart

On 30/03/2025 21:52, J wrote: Also, is there a way to see these messages on black screen during reboot in the system logs somehow? i can't find it in journalctl -b1 -r Do timestamps in the output match the moment when you experienced the issue? I would expect "-b -1" rather than "-b1", howe

Re: OT: Connect two computers with linux with wlan, but without any router

On Sun 30 Mar 2025 at 15:40:07 (+0200), Hans wrote: > > What new hop? You said you had the setup: > > > > hostA≡E--cat5/6--cable--∃≡hostB > > no, I have no cable setup, I just said, I know, how to setup when using a > cable. Maybe I did not use the correct English idiom... Yes

Re: web browser recommendation

On Sun, Mar 30, 2025 at 7:02 PM Marc Shapiro wrote: > I was looking into Brave the other day, but what stopped me was the lack > of anything to replace Video Download Helper. Am I missing something? > Is there a way to download YouTube videos in Brave, or do I stick with > Firefox? > You may wa

Re: OT: Connect two computers with linux with wlan, but without any router

Timothy M Butterworth wrote: [snip] > If you make the storage server the access point What storage server? I thought this was about live video display from a drone?

Re: Journalctl and offline boot disk drive

Hi, On Sun, Mar 30, 2025 at 04:32:55PM +1100, George Kirkham wrote: > Now with Journalctl, is it still possible to connect the failed-to-boot disk > drive to another computer and read logs?  How? You got an answer regarding reading systemd journal in another directory, but… For there to be any p

Re: Installation Process

Ife Wright writes: > I want to install debian but I don't understand why I have to erase > everything on my hard disk to do it,I just want to install without erasing my > hard disk Alternatively, you can leverage cloud VMs such as Google Compute Engine. Sincerely, Byunghee signature.asc D

Re: Journalctl and offline boot disk drive

On 30/3/25 20:50, David wrote: On Sun, 30 Mar 2025 at 05:33, George Kirkham wrote: 'Back in the good old days' when logging was to text files. When a disk drive failed to boot, I could attach that disk drive to another computer as a secondary drive, and then mount and read the logs to see w

Re: Journalctl and offline boot disk drive

On Sun, 30 Mar 2025 at 05:33, George Kirkham wrote: > 'Back in the good old days' when logging was to text files. When a disk > drive failed to boot, I could attach that disk drive to another computer > as a secondary drive, and then mount and read the logs to see why it > could no longer boot.

Re: Journalctl and offline boot disk drive

On 30/03/2025 12:32, George Kirkham wrote: Now with Journalctl, is it still possible to connect the failed-to-boot disk drive to another computer and read logs?  How? [...] https://man.archlinux.org/man/journalctl.1.en -D DIR, --directory=DIR There is

Failed unmounting disk mes. on every restart

Hello! Every time i restart the PC i have an error message while rebooting process: "[FAILED] failed unmounting *disk-mount-point*..." It didn't bother me really, because this message usually just immediately disappeared. But last time the *computer could get stuck* on this for a minute or two.

Re: web browser recommendation

On Sun, 30 Mar 2025 12:23:04 -0700 Marc Shapiro wrote: Hello Marc, >I was looking into Brave the other day, but what stopped me was the >lack of anything to replace Video Download Helper. I've got VDH installed in Brave. https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/video-downloadhelper/lmjnegcaekl

Re: OT: Connect two computers with linux with wlan, but without any router

Hi David, > What new hop? You said you had the setup: > > hostA≡E--cat5/6--cable--∃≡hostB > no, I have no cable setup, I just said, I know, how to setup when using a cable. Maybe I did not use the correct English idiom... > where E and ∃ are ethernet sockets. (You don't norm

Re: Journalctl and offline boot disk drive

On Sun, 30 Mar 2025 16:32:55 +1100 George Kirkham wrote: > PS I am currently using Thunderbird to try out email threading. Are > the any other good email clients that support email threading and are > packaged in Debian? If, as in this email, you have two separate queries, you might do better (

Re: Spurious emails from somewhere in "Debian hierarchy"

On Sun, Mar 30, 2025 at 05:59:09AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: [...] > I'm evidently have not conveyed the import of what I have termed "spurious". > It is *NOT* the same as saying something is spam. No, Richard. The issue is that you point to a problem here and don't give people willing to hel

Re: OT: Connect two computers with linux with wlan, but without any router

Am Samstag, 29. März 2025, 19:21:39 CEST schrieb Stefan Monnier: > >> You need to make one PC an access point. I think most guides are > > > > yes, I already am aware of this, but this I wanted to avoid. It will > > be then again a new hop, which causes delay (and I suppose, > > a software router

Re: Debian stuck at 12.6

"Andrew M.A. Cater" writes: > On Mon, Mar 17, 2025 at 10:03:48AM +0100, Loris Bennett wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I have a machine which I have updated since Wheezy in 2013 and has thus >> accumulated a bit of cruft. It is currently running Bookworm but seems >> to have become stuck at 12.7. >> >> I h

Re: Spurious emails from somewhere in "Debian hierarchy"

On 3/29/25 11:09 PM, David Wright wrote: On Sat 29 Mar 2025 at 05:36:46 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: On 3/28/25 11:29 PM, David Wright wrote: On Mon 24 Mar 2025 at 06:34:05 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: Since the beginning of February I've been receiving what I consider spurious emails.

Re: Failed unmounting disk mes. on every restart

Also, is there a way to see these messages on black screen during reboot in the system logs somehow? i can't find it in *journalctl -b1 -r* вс, 30 мар. 2025 г. в 17:35, J : > Hello! > > Every time i restart the PC i have an error message while rebooting > process: "[FAILED] failed unmounting *

Re: OT: Connect two computers with linux with wlan, but without any router

On Sun, 30 Mar 2025 15:40:07 +0200 Hans wrote: > Hi David, > > > What new hop? You said you had the setup: > > > > hostA≡E--cat5/6--cable--∃≡hostB > > > > no, I have no cable setup, I just said, I know, how to setup when > using a cable. Maybe I did not use the correct Eng