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2025-01-01 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
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Re: booting by UEFI?

2025-01-01 Thread Max Nikulin
On 31/12/2024 18:43, Nicolas George wrote: Max Nikulin (12024-12-31): Are you sure that fwupd will never try put a large enough file to update firmware of some device? Firmware updates are exceptional and critical operations. They should not be left to unattended daemons. The system configurat

Re: seeking new laser printer [solved, mostly]

2025-01-01 Thread Kleene, Steven (kleenesj)
On Dec 30 13:16:06 PM EST 2024, I wrote: >> crw--- 1 root root 180, 0 Dec 3 08:53 /dev/usb/hiddev0 >> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 9796 Dec 21 13:01 /dev/usb/lp1 On December 31, 2024 12:03 PM, e...@gmx.us replied: > If you remove the file and disconnect / reconnect the printer, it might get > re

Re: new computer arriving soon

2025-01-01 Thread pocket
> Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2025 at 9:28 AM > From: "Frank Guthausen" > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: new computer arriving soon > > On Wed, 1 Jan 2025 14:58:25 +0100 > poc...@homemail.com wrote: > > > > debians wiki is woefully incomplete and > > contains old out dated inf

Re: new computer arriving soon

2025-01-01 Thread gene heskett
On 1/1/25 13:48, Joe wrote: On Wed, 1 Jan 2025 14:58:25 +0100 poc...@homemail.com wrote: [...] In fact I'm sure you've noticed that help is often offered to users of other systems, but tentatively and with warnings that it may not work. "Gene is a special case in that he uses non-standard har

Re: new computer arriving soon

2025-01-01 Thread Max Nikulin
On 01/01/2025 20:58, poc...@homemail.com wrote: In the great number of cases most look to Archlinux for setting up and running packages. Why because the wiki is no nonsense and just works in almost every case. debians wiki is woefully incomplete and contains old out dated information which in mos

Re: new computer arriving soon

2025-01-01 Thread pocket
> Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2025 at 10:29 PM > From: "Max Nikulin" > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: new computer arriving soon > > On 02/01/2025 09:36, poc...@homemail.com wrote: > >> From: "Max Nikulin" > >> On 01/01/2025 20:58, poc...@homemail.com wrote: > >> > >>> Try to

Re: How can I test the graphics card?

2025-01-01 Thread Max Nikulin
On 01/01/2025 01:50, Hans wrote: # apt install nvidia-legacy-340xx-driver firmware-misc-nonfree Do NOT update any other packages, even if aptitude is suggesting it. Most people in the past believe, they must upgrade other packages, too. This is NOT necessary and break your system! You have

Re: laptop for debian 12

2025-01-01 Thread Charles Curley
On Thu, 02 Jan 2025 00:36:15 +0100 hen...@privatembox.com wrote: > I am considering to buy a new laptop for debian 12 installed. > Can you suggest one for that purpose? > Happy new year all debian members. https://www.thinkpenguin.com/gnu-linux/penguin-t4-gnulinux-laptop -- Does anybody read s

getting started with pipewire

2025-01-01 Thread Haines Brown
I have ALSA and PulseAudio installed, but intend to use PipeWire as principle server and so installed that as well, although I gather pipewire is automatically installed in bookworm. I follow the guidance of https://wiki.debian.org/PipeWire but get into trouble right at the start. It says to

Re: new computer arriving soon

2025-01-01 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Jan 01, 2025 at 09:29:01AM -0700, Charles Curley wrote: Please don't feed the trolls. It's a tough line to walk. On the one hand, yeah, we don't want to feed the trolls. But if the trolls keep going anyway with no sign they will stop, we run the risk of implicitly supporting unchallen

Re: getting started with pipewire

2025-01-01 Thread Charles Curley
On Wed, 1 Jan 2025 12:01:52 -0500 Haines Brown wrote: > It says to start of by doing: > > # touch /etc/pipewire/media-session.d/with-pulseaudio > > The problem is that I have no /etc/pipewire/ although it is installed: > > $ pipewire --version > pipewire > Compiled with

Re: new computer arriving soon

2025-01-01 Thread David Wright
On Wed 01 Jan 2025 at 16:46:37 (-0500), gene heskett wrote: > On 1/1/25 13:48, Joe wrote: > "Gene is a special case in that he uses non-standard hardware to do > things that the rest of us don't do, working in ways that we don't > work. We do our best, but that's often not good enough". > > The ha

Re: new computer arriving soon

2025-01-01 Thread George at Clug
On Thursday, 02-01-2025 at 15:22 gene heskett wrote: > > On 1/1/25 21:57, Max Nikulin wrote: > > On 01/01/2025 00:55, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > >> On Mon, Dec 30, 2024 at 11:32:17PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > Good question Marc. I'm searching for someone who knows how to > combine

Re: How can I test the graphics card?

2025-01-01 Thread Max Nikulin
On 31/12/2024 18:07, Serkan Kurt wrote: nouveau :01:00.0: firmware: failed to load nouveau/nv84_xuc00f (-2) nouveau :01:00.0: firmware: failed to load nouveau/nv84_xuc00f (-2) nouveau :01:00.0: Direct firmware load for nouveau/nv84_xuc00f failed with error -2 Have you trying to find

Re: new computer arriving soon

2025-01-01 Thread pocket
> Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2025 at 9:19 PM > From: "Max Nikulin" > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: new computer arriving soon > > On 01/01/2025 20:58, poc...@homemail.com wrote: > > In the great number of cases most look to Archlinux for setting up and > > running packages.

Re: seeking new laser printer [solved, mostly]

2025-01-01 Thread Max Nikulin
On 31/12/2024 01:15, Kleene, Steven (kleenesj) wrote: it was less sharp than I get with my old Epson Perfection 2400 (from 2004) It might be difference due to technologies. The older one likely use "white" lamp and color filters over CCD array. New cheaper approach is a line of red, green, an

Re: new computer arriving soon

2025-01-01 Thread pocket
> Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2025 at 9:09 PM > From: "Max Nikulin" > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: new computer arriving soon > > On 01/01/2025 23:58, poc...@homemail.com wrote: > > You forgot this one. > > > > https://gitlab.archlinux.org/archlinux/packaging/packages/fetchm

Re: new computer arriving soon

2025-01-01 Thread Max Nikulin
On 01/01/2025 23:58, poc...@homemail.com wrote: You forgot this one. https://gitlab.archlinux.org/archlinux/packaging/packages/fetchmail Description=Fetchmail After=network.target [Service] User=fetchmail ExecStart=/usr/bin/fetchmail --pidfile /run/fetchmail/fetchmailrc.pid -f /etc/fetchmailr

Re: laptop for debian 12

2025-01-01 Thread john doe
On 1/2/25 00:36, hen...@privatembox.com wrote: I am considering to buy a new laptop for debian 12 installed. Can you suggest one for that purpose? No can do, why are you asking this question? Lenovo laptops are not that bad and you can without to much issues repare them yourself. Note that T

Re: new computer arriving soon

2025-01-01 Thread Max Nikulin
On 01/01/2025 00:55, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: On Mon, Dec 30, 2024 at 11:32:17PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: Good question Marc. I'm searching for someone who knows how to combine 4 ea 4T SSD's into one volume for use with amanda, the lvm docs are somewhat confusing, lacking the context that actu

Re: laptop for debian 12

2025-01-01 Thread Stefan Monnier
> Memory: 8GB I live quite happily with 8GB of RAM in several of my machines, but that's for machines which I've owned for more than 10 years already, so I think it's OK for a new machine only if you can later bump it to 16GB, otherwise the machine will probably be painful to use in 5-10 years

Re: new computer arriving soon

2025-01-01 Thread Max Nikulin
On 31/12/2024 11:01, Marc Shapiro wrote: What about LVM?  Is it usable (or even useful) with UEFI? Do you expect expect UEFI boot from purely LVM drives? Out of the box EFI system partition (fat) must be outside of LVM volumes. There is a chance that somebody has written a LVM driver for UEFI

Re: XFCE and Fuse

2025-01-01 Thread George at Clug
On Thursday, 02-01-2025 at 15:22 David Wright wrote: > On Tue 31 Dec 2024 at 16:20:21 (-0500), Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote: > > On Monday 30 December 2024 03:34:20 pm George at Clug wrote: > > > With the popularity of XFCE, I would have expected that "network > > > browsing in the thunar file man

Re: laptop for debian 12

2025-01-01 Thread Charles Curley
On Thu, 02 Jan 2025 03:35:53 +0100 hen...@privatembox.com wrote: > > > > https://www.thinkpenguin.com/gnu-linux/penguin-t4-gnulinux-laptop > > That looks interesting. > do you think the standard configure are right for now days? > > Memory: 8GB I may have gone hog wild, but I blew it ou

Re: laptop for debian 12

2025-01-01 Thread henrik
On 02.01.2025 03:07, Charles Curley wrote: On Thu, 02 Jan 2025 00:36:15 +0100 hen...@privatembox.com wrote: I am considering to buy a new laptop for debian 12 installed. Can you suggest one for that purpose? Happy new year all debian members. https://www.thinkpenguin.com/gnu-linux/penguin-t4-

Re: new computer arriving soon

2025-01-01 Thread Max Nikulin
On 02/01/2025 09:36, poc...@homemail.com wrote: From: "Max Nikulin" On 01/01/2025 20:58, poc...@homemail.com wrote: Try to get it corrected and you will/must be attacked. My experience does not match yours. Of course it doesn't, people here are not 100% against you What wiki pages you tri

Re: laptop for debian 12

2025-01-01 Thread Rick Thomas
On Wed, Jan 1, 2025, at 7:21 PM, Stefan Monnier wrote: >> Memory: 8GB > > I live quite happily with 8GB of RAM in several of my machines, but > that's for machines which I've owned for more than 10 years already, so > I think it's OK for a new machine only if you can later bump it to 16GB, > ot

Re: new computer arriving soon

2025-01-01 Thread gene heskett
On 1/1/25 21:57, Max Nikulin wrote: On 01/01/2025 00:55, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: On Mon, Dec 30, 2024 at 11:32:17PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: Good question Marc. I'm searching for someone who knows how to combine 4 ea 4T SSD's into one volume for use with amanda, the lvm docs are somewhat

Re: XFCE and Fuse

2025-01-01 Thread David Wright
On Tue 31 Dec 2024 at 16:20:21 (-0500), Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote: > On Monday 30 December 2024 03:34:20 pm George at Clug wrote: > > With the popularity of XFCE, I would have expected that "network > > browsing in the thunar file manager" would be fully supported by > > default by now. I underst

Re: getting started with pipewire

2025-01-01 Thread Haines Brown
On Wed, Jan 01, 2025 at 10:31:47AM -0700, Charles Curley wrote: > 0.3.65 is the version on Debian 12. Why are you following the > instructions for Debian 11 if you are on Debian 12? Oops! The wiki did not explicitly say it was for Debian 11 and I as not sufficiently cautious. I find many directi

Re: job is killed

2025-01-01 Thread henrik
thanks Dan. that's really a OOM issue from dmesg info. Thanks for all help from debian list. On 31.12.2024 13:32, Dan Ritter wrote: hen...@privatembox.com wrote: my job consumes a lot of memory (almost consumes all of the system allowed ram). when the job is running, it will have the chance t

laptop for debian 12

2025-01-01 Thread henrik
I am considering to buy a new laptop for debian 12 installed. Can you suggest one for that purpose? Happy new year all debian members. Thanks.

Re: laptop for debian 12

2025-01-01 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Wed, Jan 1, 2025 at 6:36 PM wrote: > > I am considering to buy a new laptop for debian 12 installed. > Can you suggest one for that purpose? Can you state the problem you are having selecting a laptop among the near endless choices? > Happy new year all debian members. Jeff

Re: laptop for debian 12

2025-01-01 Thread Eike Lantzsch ZP5CGE / KY4PZ
On Wednesday, 1 January 2025 20:36:15 GMT-3 hen...@privatembox.com wrote: > I am considering to buy a new laptop for debian 12 installed. > Can you suggest one for that purpose? > Happy new year all debian members. > > Thanks. Hi Henrik, depends where you are located. I have excellent experience w

Re: new computer arriving soon

2025-01-01 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Jan 01, 2025 at 03:35:25PM +0100, poc...@homemail.com wrote: I was just attacked on this list for posting a systemd unit file that came from Archlinux. It was the first response in the thread. Where were you? I have been banned from the wiki and this list by cater and the debian elder

Re: new computer arriving soon

2025-01-01 Thread pocket
> Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2025 at 10:37 AM > From: "Michael Stone" > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: new computer arriving soon > > On Wed, Jan 01, 2025 at 03:35:25PM +0100, poc...@homemail.com wrote: > >I was just attacked on this list for posting a systemd unit file that

Re: new computer arriving soon

2025-01-01 Thread Charles Curley
On Wed, 1 Jan 2025 10:37:38 -0500 Michael Stone wrote: > You've been trolling with messages that add exactly zero value,… Please don't feed the trolls. -- Does anybody read signatures any more? https://charlescurley.com https://charlescurley.com/blog/

Re: new computer arriving soon

2025-01-01 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Jan 01, 2025 at 05:18:58PM +0100, poc...@homemail.com wrote: Thank you for proving my point, I knew I would not be disappointed. Your proof positive that my point is well established. What point? The reactions you encounter are those that you've earned. Some of the valuable content y

Re: new computer arriving soon

2025-01-01 Thread pocket
> Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2025 at 11:51 AM > From: "Michael Stone" > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: new computer arriving soon > > On Wed, Jan 01, 2025 at 05:18:58PM +0100, poc...@homemail.com wrote: > >Thank you for proving my point, I knew I would not be disappointed. >

Re: new computer arriving soon

2025-01-01 Thread pocket
> Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2024 at 6:54 PM > From: "gene heskett" > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: new computer arriving soon > > > > If these are Banana Pi 5 and you want them supported *in Debian*, go and > > talk to the folks on IRC on #debian-arm or the mailing list. Ask t

Re: new computer arriving soon

2025-01-01 Thread Frank Guthausen
On Wed, 1 Jan 2025 14:58:25 +0100 poc...@homemail.com wrote: > > debians wiki is woefully incomplete and > contains old out dated information which in most cases it just flat > out incorrect. This happens when no individual person takes responsibility for updating things. You could be this person

Re: new computer arriving soon

2025-01-01 Thread gene heskett
On 1/1/25 12:15, Michael Stone wrote: On Wed, Jan 01, 2025 at 09:29:01AM -0700, Charles Curley wrote: Please don't feed the trolls. It's a tough line to walk. On the one hand, yeah, we don't want to feed the trolls. But if the trolls keep going anyway with no sign they will stop, we run th